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    Nvidia misses GTX470/480 launch targets

    This is by Charlie, but he has been correct about a lot of info on these cards in the past few months:

    IT LOOKS LIKE Nvidia's legendary honesty is matched only by its counting skills, at least that is what it looks like after the GTX470 and GTX480 launch numbers leaked. If you believed the 30,000 number, well, it was off by a lot.

    Since Nvidia didn't officially give any launch numbers, that is, promise how many GTX470 and GTX480 cards would be available in retail channels at initial release, but just whispered in the ears of the gullible analysts and press, we can't call it a liar. Those people once again just parroted the vague total number they were told without thinking or doing any research. It seems a 'scoop' is worth more than the truth to some. In the end, yesterday's Nvidia analyst day had the 30K number bandied about with abandon, even though it wasn't close to the truth.

    Short story, the cards, both combined, worldwide, for all launch partners is less than 8,000 units in the first week. Yes, within spitting distance of one quarter of the leaked but not 'promised' number. Let me repeat that, less than 8,000 units. The number we have been hearing for months is in fact true.

    No, it is not

    What precious little inventory there is at launch will be shifted to several high profile etailers and retailers to make it appear as though there is actual stock available. There isn't. All the companies that ordered thousands will never see them, unless they happen to be called Newegg.

    Two major AIBs have allocated less than 100 cards each for Europe - not per country, but for Europe as a whole. If there are only five launch partners, that is only 1,600 cards, GTX470 and GTX480 combined, each, for the world. That isn't enough to pay for the printing of the boxes.
    Also from another article via the links in this one:

    NVIDIA IS TWISTING the arms of e-tailers over GTX480s, forcing them to clean out the warehouses of old inventory if they want the new cards. If you want any allocations of the GTX470 or GTX480, be prepared to buy lots of low end cards.

    The deal goes like this. If you want any GF100 based cards, you get them in bundles of 10 GTX470s and 10 GTX480s. For each of the bundles, you have to buy 20 G210s, 20 GT220s, 20 GT240s and 20 GTS250s. So basically you have to buy 80 old, crap parts to be eligible to receive just 20 of the newer and supposedly 'good' ones
    http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/04/...aunch-targets/

    I wonder if all of this is actually true.

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    AndreYang has the missing 22 thousand
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    Quote Originally Posted by xoqolatl View Post
    AndreYang has the missing 22 thousand
    To be precise,.. the chinese goverment does

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    Quote Originally Posted by xoqolatl View Post
    AndreYang has the missing 22 thousand
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    Quote Originally Posted by xoqolatl View Post
    AndreYang has the missing 22 thousand
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    That second quote. Just wow.

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    I don't think the 100 per AIB for Europe figure is correct. I have been in touch with some Turkish retailers and they told me about 100 cards per AIB will enter Turkey in April, and more in the coming months. While this is not a big figure at all (Turkey is a big GPU market, bigger than most EU countries) it's far away from what Charlie says.
    Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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    I do not understand that anybody cares to listen to Charlie.
    Most of what he says is a lie, and he is only trying to harm nVidia as much as possible, it is his whole mission, he never wrote a nice word about them.

    This in itself should be enough to Intelligent people should ignore him
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    Quote Originally Posted by E30M3 View Post
    I do not understand that anybody cares to listen to Charlie.
    Most of what he says is a lie, and he is only trying to harm nVidia as much as possible, it is his whole mission, he never wrote a nice word about them.

    This in itself should be enough to Intelligent people should ignore him
    I think the reaction to his articles is more of a 'the truth hurts' type of thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by E30M3 View Post
    Hmm lets se

    you have a anti nVidia Avatar
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    You have 2 slow ATI cards in your rig
    are you Charlie
    Quote Originally Posted by flippin_waffles View Post
    I think the reaction to his articles is more of a 'the truth hurts' type of thing.
    All that and my ATI cards are slow? ??? ???? ????

    I've yet to find a game that I cant run.

    Better than anything that Nvidia sell for the same price, which is why I bought them. Ive had a Gefore 2 MX, Geforce 3, and Geforce 6800 SLI setups too, since then ATI have just better cards for the money IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by annihilat0r View Post
    I don't think the 100 per AIB for Europe figure is correct. I have been in touch with some Turkish retailers and they told me about 100 cards per AIB will enter Turkey in April, and more in the coming months. While this is not a big figure at all (Turkey is a big GPU market, bigger than most EU countries) it's far away from what Charlie says.
    Even tough Turkey has some European soil. When looked in big picture, Turkey is not in Europe.

    That 100 cards for europe is confirmed from atleast one aib by www.muropaketti.com. And retailers know . They can always say they get lots, actual deliverd amount is another case. And as stated earlier, Turkey is not in Europe. Their cards should not count against allocated card count for Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mechanical Man View Post
    Even tough Turkey has some European soil. When looked in big picture, Turkey is not in Europe.
    And as stated earlier, Turkey is not in Europe. Their cards should not count against allocated card count for Europe.
    Geez, you go out of your way to make a political statement that changes absolutely nothing related to what I said, just for the sake of expressing your political views. Wherever Turkey is located, do you think it is normal for Turkey to get as many cards as the whole Europe?

    FYI, a lot of ATI partners include Turkey in their European channels, for example the Sapphire office in Turkey is in their South European branch which is headed by Italy (which sells less cards than Turkey )
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    Quote Originally Posted by annihilat0r View Post
    Geez, you go out of your way to make a political statement that changes absolutely nothing related to what I said, just for the sake of expressing your political views. Wherever Turkey is located, do you think it is normal for Turkey to get as many cards as the whole Europe?

    FYI, a lot of ATI partners include Turkey in their European channels, for example the Sapphire office in Turkey is in their South European branch which is headed by Italy (which sells less cards than Turkey )
    Where did I say anything about politics? Show me. I just told that Turkey is geographically in middle-east.

    And as I said, I do not believe that there is so much cards available as you say.

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    That's funny. I just got off the phone with PNY and my GTX480 shipped this morning with 2nd day air. Charlie can rot in a sack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElSel10 View Post
    That's funny. I just got off the phone with PNY and my GTX480 shipped this morning with 2nd day air. Charlie can rot in a sack.
    you managed to buy 1, thats why he must be wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
    you managed to buy 1, thats why he must be wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
    you managed to buy 1, thats why he must be wrong?
    That actually made me laugh. But it will be interesting how this turns out.
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    Actually most of what he says is true.

    OCUK have already confirmed that their initial shipments of GTX 470 / 480 are going to be very low, but their second shipment will be more significant, but the second shipment are not the ones arriving on release date.

    Quote Originally Posted by E30M3 View Post
    and he is only trying to harm nVidia as much as possible
    In all fairness, Nvidia already do plenty of self harm everytime Jensen opens his mouth or they try any new marketting or renaming scheme. No need to shoot the messenger just because the news is bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bhavv View Post
    Actually most of what he says is true.

    OCUK have already confirmed that their initial shipments of GTX 470 / 480 are going to be very low, but their second shipment will be more significant, but the second shipment are not the ones arriving on release date.
    Hmm lets se

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    Quote Originally Posted by E30M3 View Post
    Hmm lets se

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    simply

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    what an idiot charlie is, even after everything,he decides to scare the only people left with false rumours....YOU, how low will this low life go?

    100 cards for europe? all of europe?

    i can confirm that 1 UK e- retailer alone will have 50 + 50 initial stock on the 12th april, thats not counting OCUK and Dabs here in the UK (you do the math)

    with many more confirmed for May 6th, yes they will be limited numbers, but 100 for the whole of europe? hahahahahahhaah

    what a tosser

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    LOLL charlie at work again

    but then again hes been right all along concering ferbi .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DosDuoNo View Post
    what an idiot charlie is, even after everything,he decides to scare the only people left with false rumours....YOU, how low will this low life go?

    100 cards for europe? all of europe?

    i can confirm that 1 UK e- retailer alone will have 50 + 50 initial stock on the 12th april, thats not counting OCUK and Dabs here in the UK (you do the math)

    with many more confirmed for May 6th, yes they will be limited numbers, but 100 for the whole of europe? hahahahahahhaah

    what a tosser
    Amazingly, I think Charlie bashers are worse than Charlie himself. Now, there's a good chance that Charlie if full of , but some of his bashers definitely are!

    -Charlie claimed that two major AIB's had less than 100 each for the whole of Europe, he didn't claim that there were less than 100 cards total for all AIBs for the whole of Europe as it seems like you are implying.

    -April 12th is two weeks since fermi launched, Charlie's claim is for the FIRST week. May 6th is *definitely* not in the first week that Fermi launched so what the heck is your point?

    If you hate Charlie, don't put words in his mouth and make up crap. You cannot defeat him by stooping below his level, that only makes him stronger!

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