Nvidia misses GTX470/480 launch targets

[Mungri]

This is by Charlie, but he has been correct about a lot of info on these cards in the past few months:

IT LOOKS LIKE Nvidia's legendary honesty is matched only by its counting skills, at least that is what it looks like after the GTX470 and GTX480 launch numbers leaked. If you believed the 30,000 number, well, it was off by a lot.

Since Nvidia didn't officially give any launch numbers, that is, promise how many GTX470 and GTX480 cards would be available in retail channels at initial release, but just whispered in the ears of the gullible analysts and press, we can't call it a liar. Those people once again just parroted the vague total number they were told without thinking or doing any research. It seems a 'scoop' is worth more than the truth to some. In the end, yesterday's Nvidia analyst day had the 30K number bandied about with abandon, even though it wasn't close to the truth.

Short story, the cards, both combined, worldwide, for all launch partners is less than 8,000 units in the first week. Yes, within spitting distance of one quarter of the leaked but not 'promised' number. Let me repeat that, less than 8,000 units. The number we have been hearing for months is in fact true.

No, it is not

What precious little inventory there is at launch will be shifted to several high profile etailers and retailers to make it appear as though there is actual stock available. There isn't. All the companies that ordered thousands will never see them, unless they happen to be called Newegg.

Two major AIBs have allocated less than 100 cards each for Europe - not per country, but for Europe as a whole. If there are only five launch partners, that is only 1,600 cards, GTX470 and GTX480 combined, each, for the world. That isn't enough to pay for the printing of the boxes.

Also from another article via the links in this one:

NVIDIA IS TWISTING the arms of e-tailers over GTX480s, forcing them to clean out the warehouses of old inventory if they want the new cards. If you want any allocations of the GTX470 or GTX480, be prepared to buy lots of low end cards.

The deal goes like this. If you want any GF100 based cards, you get them in bundles of 10 GTX470s and 10 GTX480s. For each of the bundles, you have to buy 20 G210s, 20 GT220s, 20 GT240s and 20 GTS250s. So basically you have to buy 80 old, crap parts to be eligible to receive just 20 of the newer and supposedly 'good' ones

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/04/...aunch-targets/

I wonder if all of this is actually true.

[G.Foyle]

AndreYang has the missing 22 thousand

[damha]

That second quote. Just wow.

[Frananta]

AndreYang has the missing 22 thousand

To be precise,.. the chinese goverment does

[annihilat0r]

I don't think the 100 per AIB for Europe figure is correct. I have been in touch with some Turkish retailers and they told me about 100 cards per AIB will enter Turkey in April, and more in the coming months. While this is not a big figure at all (Turkey is a big GPU market, bigger than most EU countries) it's far away from what Charlie says.

[ElSel10]

That's funny. I just got off the phone with PNY and my GTX480 shipped this morning with 2nd day air. Charlie can rot in a sack.

[E30M3]

I do not understand that anybody cares to listen to Charlie.
Most of what he says is a lie, and he is only trying to harm nVidia as much as possible, it is his whole mission, he never wrote a nice word about them.

This in itself should be enough to Intelligent people should ignore him

[flippin_waffles]

I do not understand that anybody cares to listen to Charlie.
Most of what he says is a lie, and he is only trying to harm nVidia as much as possible, it is his whole mission, he never wrote a nice word about them.

This in itself should be enough to Intelligent people should ignore him

I think the reaction to his articles is more of a 'the truth hurts' type of thing.

[Mungri]

Actually most of what he says is true.

OCUK have already confirmed that their initial shipments of GTX 470 / 480 are going to be very low, but their second shipment will be more significant, but the second shipment are not the ones arriving on release date.

and he is only trying to harm nVidia as much as possible

In all fairness, Nvidia already do plenty of self harm everytime Jensen opens his mouth or they try any new marketting or renaming scheme. No need to shoot the messenger just because the news is bad.

[SoF]

AndreYang has the missing 22 thousand

*flawless victory*

epic <first> post

Wonder if Andre comes in "STFO nubs, I couldn't get my hands on a single one" That would make me squermi

[E30M3]

Actually most of what he says is true.

OCUK have already confirmed that their initial shipments of GTX 470 / 480 are going to be very low, but their second shipment will be more significant, but the second shipment are not the ones arriving on release date.

Hmm lets se

you have a anti nVidia Avatar
You have anti nVidia quotes
You have 2 slow ATI cards in your rig
are you Charlie

[OutSider]

there is no need to turn that to personal war

[Russian]

OP doesn't really have a neutral stance towards nvidia, thats obvious. Nor do many of you, going either way.

But in all honesty, the 8,000 card figure is conjecture. he has no evidence to support that statement. he's just throwing numbers around.

Its true, europe is getting f'd right now the GTX 480/470s... but thats normal for nvidia. Not to mention, he's probably basing european figures as the basis for his argument as its probably the only place where he has cold hard evidence.

[Andrea deluxe]

Hmm lets se

you have a anti nVidia Avatar
You have anti nVidia quotes
You have 2 slow ATI cards in your rig
are you Charlie

simply

[DosDuoNo]

what an idiot charlie is, even after everything,he decides to scare the only people left with false rumours....YOU, how low will this low life go?

100 cards for europe? all of europe?

i can confirm that 1 UK e- retailer alone will have 50 + 50 initial stock on the 12th april, thats not counting OCUK and Dabs here in the UK (you do the math)

with many more confirmed for May 6th, yes they will be limited numbers, but 100 for the whole of europe? hahahahahahhaah

what a tosser

[Chumbucket843]

I think the reaction to his articles is more of a 'the truth hurts' type of thing.

its better than making your own truth. its pretty stupid to give him the credibility he has. if he wants more traffic he can talk about tiger woods or something.

Actually most of what he says is true.

yeah, 280, 275, 300 watt tdp were all correct. he even guessed before the chip even existed. he said it was only 5% faster than a 5870, more like 20% and even better with min framerates. he was wrong about launch dates. he was wrong about # of shaders. he also said nvidia would be terrible at tessellation and it was emulated in software, not true either. i could keep going but i have proved my point.

[trinibwoy]

That second quote. Just wow.

I wouldn't be surprised at all. If the retailers don't want the 4xx they just need to say no to the deal. Is it heavy-handed on Nvidia's part? Yeah but retailers have an incentive to stock 4xx parts too since people are bound to add other things to their cart for the "new build". It's just business, nothing to cry over.

[Aerwidh]

If it's true, shame on Nvidia. If it's not, shame on Charlie.

[generics_user]

Hmm lets se

you have a anti nVidia Avatar
You have anti nVidia quotes
You have 2 slow ATI cards in your rig
are you Charlie

let the fanboy wars begin...

nvidia screwed up on this generation; i see no reason to buy the GTX480 es it's even worse than the HD4870 temperature wise which was close to the limit; over 100°C on the CORE as seen in some reviews are way too much; i can live with 80-90 under extreme load but over 90 is a real problem when you consider that these things will get VERY dusty at one point

[damha]

I wouldn't be surprised at all. If the retailers don't want the 4xx they just need to say no to the deal. Is it heavy-handed on Nvidia's part? Yeah but retailers have an incentive to stock 4xx parts too since people are bound to add other things to their cart for the "new build". It's just business, nothing to cry over.

That's not business, that's shady business. If you feel that ethically this is correct then I will say now I disagree with you as much as possible. That's a dirty tactic for offloading garbage to someone else's lap. A desperate sign that shows ati has been doing well in the low end market and nvidia shipments are well below targets.

The only thing that will give retailers incentive to do this is how much they can gouge users because of such low supply. None of this points to a successful generation for nvidia. They will need at least another to recover.

[SamHughe]

yeah, 280, 275, 300 watt tdp were all correct. he even guessed before the chip even existed. he said it was only 5% faster than a 5870, more like 20% and even better with min framerates. he was wrong about launch dates. he was wrong about # of shaders. he also said nvidia would be terrible at tessellation and it was emulated in software, not true either. i could keep going but i have proved my point.

QFT.
Listen, I am not a big fan of NVDIA and their business practices particularly with the gtx480 hype however, Charlie has a very strong reputation as a sensationalist xxxxxxxbag and an avid NVdia-hater started a long time ago during his time in The Inquirer. In fact, the users quoting The Inquirer as a source here in the news section used to be flamed and ridiculed. Just because he occasionally hits the target with his BS doesn't make him a credible source. If nothing, he is extremely biased towards AMD/ATI. I, for one, wouldn't base my purchase decisions based on what he writes.

[Dumo]

@ Neweeg yesterday...EVGA 480 sold out in 15 minutes and PNY in 30 minutes.

Wheres BFG?

Next batch for these cards will be $550 probly..

http://nowinstock.net/computers/nvidia/gtx480/

[trinibwoy]

That's not business, that's shady business. If you feel that ethically this is correct then I will say now I disagree with you as much as possible. That's a dirty tactic for offloading garbage to someone else's lap. A desperate sign that shows ati has been doing well in the low end market and nvidia shipments are well below targets.

Ethics has nothing to do with it, this isn't an abortion debate. The deal is presented up front clear as day.

[fiskov]

I'll be extremely raged if i don't receive a 480 GTX next week..
But what can you do when you require nVidia? Not a lot.

[Manicdan]

That's a dirty tactic for offloading garbage to someone else's lap.

i agree with this part.
ati is selling most products on a 40nm node, nvidia is selling most things still on 55nm, and are they still making 55nm chips? or is that all still left over stock from months ago? maybe their goal is to keep selling lots of high yield 55nm parts for profit, and let 40nm just be for sh*ts and giggles