Quad socket board communitarian bulk buy

[Gonzalo-Gonads]

I might be interested, but I'd like to know
1. PPD?
2. As other people have asked, how to wire the PSU
3. ship to sweden?
4. what form factor?

[Tecman]

I thought they solved the Power pin outs .... It was that you needed a power supply that has standard 24pin+4+4 power supply... Also, that you needed an older ATI video card ( not sure what it was exactly ) to view the bios. Otherwise,the board was plug and play..?

[Gonzalo-Gonads]

Ive never seen the connectors from this picture http://atrejus.net/arima/arima-gr.jpg

Looks like 16pin and 18pin...

[skycrane]

4. its big, i dont think its a form factor, but its 16"x13" im not sure what that would be in cm....
2. wireing it is fairly east, it only takes 12v from the psu. if i remember correctly, there is a 16pin, that just takes 2 regular 8 pin and they fit. 18 pin takes a 6pin pcie hooked up backwards, and a 8 pin hooked up normaly. and the last 4 pins are left out, they pull 3.3v and if you hook anythnig from the psu to them the board constantly reboots.
1. PPD looks to be right around 5000ppd in boinc wcg points, or 9000 ppd in other boinc crunching.
1.5 4 8356 with the tyan pulls 450w with a killawatt

[Red Maw]

1. PPD looks to be right around 5000ppd in boinc wcg points, or 9000 ppd in other boinc crunching.

That can't be right, the Sammy's get about 7-9k ppd with only two dual-core cpu's.

[OldChap]

As always people get confused because boinc uses points for all different projects and WCG uses a different set of points for their project (the reason is an historical thing)

So watch carefully when people talk points because as a rule of thumb 1 boinc point = 7 WCG points

There is a thread about output of various processors but it will be a generalisation only and depends on MB etc.

My personal numbers are core 2 quad @4.0 ≈ 3kppd boinc, 2cpu opteron 2356 @2.3 is about 2500+ boinc. so I would expect 5kppd for the 4cpu setup which when compared to the sammy numbers you mentioned would be 35kppd wcg

[DragoonXX]

formfactor is roughly SSI-MEB *those boards might use a somewhat different layout for standoffs from standard SSI-MEB*
fully compatible cases for them...
Stacker 810 *I've been looking for one for a few months*
most cases that have top and bottom PSU mounts are theoretically capable (as long as they support a 13" wide mobo tray area)

[Duh]

Yeah, but if they were closer to 65$ you're getting awfully close to an i7, no idea how the two will compare though.

115w TDP sounds a bit toasty under full load lol.

btw I'm in the US, west coast.

price for each low-end barcy is 41 bucks ( I do not know if it includes shipping).

ABout power up: I have the schemes and layout saved in my comp, will send it via PM to anyone interested .

[DragoonXX]

any possibility of seeing if the slightly faster ones can be sourced for about the same? depending on how large the group buy is, we might be able to hunt down a seller for 8354s for maybe ~10-15 more..depending on how talks go
there seems to be a company selling out a bunch of 8354s for cheap (most bids are at like 60 bucks for a pair...US only though)

[skycrane]

That can't be right, the Sammy's get about 7-9k ppd with only two dual-core cpu's.

i know, thats why i tried to say it like i did. we got off track on another thread talking about points.

ive got 3 4P tyans, 8356s, and the all average 9000 ppd on boinc, running the other things on my sig.

one of the 4P is running WCG, and that one has been averging 5000 ppd in WCG Boinc points. so 35kppd in grid points or around there.


it got me messed up for a month, trying to figure out what kind of points ppl were talking about.

[Tristor]

any possibility of seeing if the slightly faster ones can be sourced for about the same? depending on how large the group buy is, we might be able to hunt down a seller for 8354s for maybe ~10-15 more..depending on how talks go
there seems to be a company selling out a bunch of 8354s for cheap (most bids are at like 60 bucks for a pair...US only though)

There's 8356s for $62 on ebay right now. There's another thread in this forum about them...

i know, thats why i tried to say it like i did. we got off track on another thread talking about points.

ive got 3 4P tyans, 8356s, and the all average 9000 ppd on boinc, running the other things on my sig.

one of the 4P is running WCG, and that one has been averging 5000 ppd in WCG Boinc points. so 35kppd in grid points or around there.


it got me messed up for a month, trying to figure out what kind of points ppl were talking about.

Would this outdo an i7-860 @ 4.0GHz then? I hear people say an i7-920 OCed (3.8? 4.0?) with HT on does about 35k PPD in WCG, so if this quad board does more than i7-860 @ 4GHz with HT on, for $150 less per node, that's pretty damn good deal.

[DragoonXX]

There's 8356s for $62 on ebay right now. There's another thread in this forum about them...

I know about the 8356es, but they're US only ship, I did find one company who has 2, 4, 8 and 12 trays of 8354s for I think its like 170/300/600/1100 or something like that, I'm tempted to grab a tray of 4, but I currently have no board to do testing on

[Red Maw]

i know, thats why i tried to say it like i did. we got off track on another thread talking about points.

ive got 3 4P tyans, 8356s, and the all average 9000 ppd on boinc, running the other things on my sig.

one of the 4P is running WCG, and that one has been averging 5000 ppd in WCG Boinc points. so 35kppd in grid points or around there.


it got me messed up for a month, trying to figure out what kind of points ppl were talking about.

That more like what I was expecting, darn conversions lol

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After a bit of consideration I don't think I'll be getting a 4p MB, don't have enough money to throw around right now. I'm still interested though so with luck something will change (on my end).

[skycrane]

the price on them is pretty good, mine were 850 each,

299 for the tyan mobo from the egg
250 for the optis
80 for a pcc 750 recert psu there is a therad in online deals for this
100 for 4 hsf, from the egg
150 or so for 8 gigs of ecc ddr2. from ebay

now you can probably find the hsf, and ram cheaper, but that was what i found.
you can go with less ram than me, i think WCG only needs about 2-4 gb for 16 cores so 512-1024mb per socket will work. with the other boinc i do, sometimes 2gb per socket is not enough, ive seen my task manager read 13gb off a machine with only 8gb installed

if you shoped around, you could probably get one set up for 700-750 easily.

[DragoonXX]

pricelist for me
Lian-li PC-A70F- 179.99
WD caviar black 640GB (got no spare drives laying around, lol)- 74.99
corsair TX850-179.99 (and a 20 mir)
tyan board- 299.99
4x2GB kingston DDR2 800 ECC- 225.96 (cheaper on newegg canada than 667 O_o)
coolermaster Hyper TX3 x4- 71.96
processors- yet unknown
total before processors: 1012.88...some things I can get cheaper on sales, other things not, and that's also with salvaging my 8800GT from my soprano system (family wouldn't need the graphics power, I've got a spare 7900GS XT sitting around atm)

[Sage88]

I would be interested in one if shipping is available to aus.

[DragoonXX]

I've got a bead on 2 pairs of 8356 processors for cheap...<2 days until I find out if I get them both
biggest fun is going to be trying to find a company locally that has a socket F board I can get DOA testing on
edit: no luck finding a company local that has a board

what are all the cases that fit SSI-MEB? I know the stacker 810 does like a glove..but I can't find one
the lian-li PC-A70s are large enough to, but you need to mod the top part
what other cases fit SSI-MEB?

[Duh]

I'd been absent for some time due to a snow storm that hit my telephone line which made my adsl connection to become fubar..

more info here

Will be back sooon muahaha :P

[skycrane]

pricelist for me
Lian-li PC-A70F- 179.99
WD caviar black 640GB (got no spare drives laying around, lol)- 74.99
corsair TX850-179.99 (and a 20 mir)
tyan board- 299.99
4x2GB kingston DDR2 800 ECC- 225.96 (cheaper on newegg canada than 667 O_o)
coolermaster Hyper TX3 x4- 71.96
processors- yet unknown
total before processors: 1012.88...some things I can get cheaper on sales, other things not, and that's also with salvaging my 8800GT from my soprano system (family wouldn't need the graphics power, I've got a spare 7900GS XT sitting around atm)

damn dude, thats a lot for one of these crunchers.

1. if your going to put this in a case, remember the hsf are heavy and there will be 4 of them on the board, so you MUST have a backplate for the hsf

2. id go with some used ram, instead of the stuff from the egg

btw, the tyan board has onboard video, so you dont need one, unless you want to run collatz, milkyway, or the grid, and fah.

[Gonzalo-Gonads]

I'd been absent for some time due to a snow storm that hit my telephone line which made my adsl connection to become fubar..

more info here

Will be back sooon muahaha :P

And I thought I had it bad here in sweden snow wise! Well I hope you recover soon and can get this bulk buy on track!

[Duh]

First of this type of things in at least 50 years dude .. most of the living guys have not seen such a thing.. cars are smashed, plastic chairs ( which are pretty tough have run the same fate), birds, plants, roofs of houses and so on

many thanks for the heads up

EDIT : I have seat ok for today's exam ( a very f.. tough one )

[shoota]

i'm not sure what that edit says, but TIESTO ROCKS MY FACE OFF! there i said it

[Duh]

i'm not sure what that edit says, but TIESTO ROCKS MY FACE OFF! there i said it

I meant that I had to sit for a tough exam and I thankfully did ok ( just a side note ).

I am back on track as I have internetS again.

[shoota]

good to have you back

[Duh]

I might be interested, but I'd like to know
1. PPD?
2. As other people have asked, how to wire the PSU
3. ship to sweden?
4. what form factor?

i can answer right now:


2. will be sent when buyer gets the board
3 . why not?
4 propietary ( 16 x 13 inches or something like that). a few pages back skycrane mentions the size of it