GTX 480 and GTX 470 Reviews

[joshd]

the bad yields force them to use chips that should have been gtx470's or lower. it requires higher voltages to reach the same frequency. also tesla has the graphics core turned off so it is just shaders, 448 to be exact.

Ah right OK, so although it has the same number of compute cores, there is alot of inactive hardware not sucking juice? Fair enough

[NH|Delph1]

A bit late to post here, but here goes...
http://www.nordichardware.com/en/tes...-is-over-.html

Pretty much the same conclusion as the rest: It's hot, drains the power outlet, but performs pretty decent. Value questionable, perhaps better off with the 5970.

//Andreas

[BababooeyHTJ]

A bit late to post here, but here goes...
http://www.nordichardware.com/en/tes...-is-over-.html

Pretty much the same conclusion as the rest: It's hot, drains the power outlet, but performs pretty decent. Value questionable, perhaps better off with the 5970.

//Andreas

Except that 5970 is just as hot and has crossfire issues to boot. I'll take a single gpu over a multi gpu setup any day.

[To(V)bo Co(V)bo]

[Motiv]

A bit late to post here, but here goes...
http://www.nordichardware.com/en/tes...-is-over-.html

Pretty much the same conclusion as the rest: It's hot, drains the power outlet, but performs pretty decent. Value questionable, perhaps better off with the 5970.

//Andreas

Maybe I'm being picky here, but have you thought about doing a review using games that other sites don't use?

All I'm seeing is the same sites using the same games.

I'm sure you could find some others that people play.

Not knocking the review, it's pretty decent but a different set of games would differentiate you from the other sites. Unless of course Nvidia forced a certain set of games on you...

[Mechromancer]

you can run gpugrid or you can...



... fry an egg

I can confirm that the heatsink atop the GTX 480 gets VERY hot. Stupid hot actually.

I forgot this and burned myself very badly the other day.

Or H2O

At temperatures near boiling, if you run a water cooling setup you need to use some Prestone 50/50 premixed coolant in your setup. You'll also need a thermostat and a high pressure radiator cap for your heat exchanger. Use high pressure lines and fitting to keep it all from bursting.

Nvidia also needs to add a this sign to the heat sink to keep from getting sued:

[Final8ty]

I don't know why so much people hate Physix and CUDA... May be because ATI don't have anything of these. It's like saying that i7's are not honest because they have TURBO and HT. Now Amd will implement TURBO to.
May be Ati 6XXX series will have Physix. When you buy something you use all it's capabilities, not throw away Physix to the back door just because Ati don't have. Anyway the performance is far from being competitive...
Probably a 512SP GTX 480 would have been more distanced from 5870 and closer to the 5970. But clearly would not have meet the 250W TDP.

Many reasons have been posted on XS & are not going to be repeated here now. Go search the threads for them.

[PrometheusCon]

*sigh... all I can say about this:

[highoctane]

Nvidia also needs to add a this sign to the heat sink to keep from getting sued:

Hey my 4850 already has a similar sticker on it and the heatsink decal actually got hot enough that the glue softened and the decal curled off.

[NH|Delph1]

Except that 5970 is just as hot and has crossfire issues to boot. I'll take a single gpu over a multi gpu setup any day.

Well, even with not CF you get 5870 performance and that's not far from GTX 480, but most cases you get CF performance that's far beyond GTX 480. I think you have a valid point though, it's something one must take into account.

Maybe I'm being picky here, but have you thought about doing a review using games that other sites don't use?

All I'm seeing is the same sites using the same games.

I'm sure you could find some others that people play.

Not knocking the review, it's pretty decent but a different set of games would differentiate you from the other sites. Unless of course Nvidia forced a certain set of games on you...

Aware of that, but a couple of games refused to work and with limited time ... well that's the way she goes (to quote a certain Canadian drunk trailer park owner). For reviews you need to cover the biggest and most popular games foremost, to satisfy the masses, and secondary try to cover the hardcore users, which are outnumbered. Sadly that's what gets the hits and what pays the bills.

DirectX 11 benchmarks and games are quite limited too, when it all comes around there is a fairly narrow selection of games to use to get the proper coverage. We've had many game requests, even things like EVE Online, CS 1.6, and similar games, but I'm not sure that would really be the best benchmarks. We're listening to the readers though and trying to adapt to what they want to read

And when you do include games that are "uncommon" people have a tendency to knock on that because they can't confirm the numbers at other sites

In all fairness, a more personalized game setup is not a bad thing though. Maybe we should bring back GTA4, WoW, and some other older games that are stilled played even though they are a bit outdated.

//Andreas

[zanzabar]

I don't know why so much people hate Physix and CUDA... May be because ATI don't have anything of these. It's like saying that i7's are not honest because they have TURBO and HT. Now Amd will implement TURBO to.
May be Ati 6XXX series will have Physix. When you buy something you use all it's capabilities, not throw away Physix to the back door just because Ati don't have. Anyway the performance is far from being competitive...
Probably a 512SP GTX 480 would have been more distanced from 5870 and closer to the 5970. But clearly would not have meet the 250W TDP.

i dont think that any1 is really anti CUDA, the thing that people dont like is that we have 4 and now 6 core cpus and most the time 2 or more cores just sit there doing nothing. then the problem with phsyX is that NV keeps degrading the cpu drivers and getting devs to not optimize the cpu so those cores that arnt doing anything but have plenty of power to do the same effects are left idle. and for physX NV made it so u have to crack the drivers if u dont have an NV gpu for the primary display but they only did that when they had the slower gpu to try and hinder atis sales were instead they could have sold cards as PPU and advanced phsyX but instead its a marketing tool, phsyX is also not as good as havoc with the only users being sponsored by NV, so phsyX is giving worse performance and has hardware limitations.

@de|ph1 plz dont bench wow, its not optimized correctly and isnt it server dependent for the fps even when u try to bench it, GTA4 though would be nice as the expansions are out soon for the pc

[joshd]

[highoctane]

then the problem with phsyX is that NV keeps degrading the cpu drivers and getting devs to not optimize the cpu so those cores that arnt doing anything but have plenty of power to do the same effects are left idle.

Then whats the deal with havok which has been around forever or any other physics engine not utilizing idle cores fully or not being optimized as you might say to use idle cores fully. Surely havoc a company owned by Intel would find a way to fully utilize idle cores if it where really up to them and was that easy to do.

[RPGWiZaRD]

Now the design makes a lot more sense.

[OutSider]

I would really like to see reviews with 5*** series and fermi on multiple display setup

[zanzabar]

Then whats the deal with havok which has been around forever or any other physics engine not utilizing idle cores fully or not being optimized as you might say to use idle cores fully. Surely havoc a company owned by Intel would find a way to fully utilize idle cores if it where really up to them and was that easy to do.

havoc has been used recently in red faction gorilla and BC2 and it uses 2 cores in each of those. if NV kept up with the cpu side like agea did were they had a PPU but they wanted to sell the API to devs then i dont think that were would be the dislike of physX, but NV is giving away the api then forcing people to buy hardware. if havok only worked on intel cpus or it was gimped there would be a backlash on it also.

I would really like to see reviews with 5*** series and fermi on multiple display setup

+!, i would like to see some 3240x1920 or 3600x1920 benches

[BababooeyHTJ]

Well, even with not CF you get 5870 performance and that's not far from GTX 480, but most cases you get CF performance that's far beyond GTX 480. I think you have a valid point though, it's something one must take into account.

No, without crossfire you get 5850 performance and it doesn't clock as well. If it is anything like a 4870x2 a slightly higher fps (like 10 or so) doesn't feel higher due to the dips that you see. What happens when you see negative scaling like I saw on occasion with my x2? I am just not a big crossfire or sli fan. Nowhere near as reliable as a single gpu in my experience.

Keep in mind I'm talking at 1920x1200 here.

[SimBy]

I would really like to see reviews with 5*** series and fermi on multiple display setup

You can't. There are no multidisplay (3) drivers for Fermi yet. At least not in reviewers hands.

[OutSider]

Have i wrote somewhere that i want reviews now?

[merkk1]

For all that say the GTX480 is the MAN running in SLI you do know you can run two 5970 in crossfire to, you mite what to take a look at this http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon...review-test/22 and how well two 5970 do at 2560/1600 res. and this is way before the new 10.3 drivers no telling how well they work together now just something to think about .

[SKYMTL]

How hot is it compard to a 4870x2 ( to the touch that is? ) My 4870x2 was easily the hottest running PCB / sink I've ever used by a wide margin, just curious if the 480 comes close or god forbid... matches it.

Are you talking about the rear heatsink on the HD 4870 X2? I have no idea but they both get amazingly hot.

Nvidia also needs to add a this sign to the heat sink to keep from getting sued:

There is one. It's ironically on the back of the card (which doesn't get massively hot) and is almost too hard to notice.

Greatest....photoshop....ever.

[Trigger5521]

where are the 470 SLI #'s?????

[lkiller123]

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