GTX 460 to Arrive in Early June

[onethreehill]

NVIDIA is now working on a lower-end addition to its GeForce GTX400 series, and according to our reliable sources, the card will be branded as GeForce GTX 460.

The third Fermi-based consumer-class model will employ the P1025 reference PCB design, and feature 1GB of GDDR5 memory as well as 256-bit of memory interface. We have no idea yet about the amount of stream processors or frequencies.

Noteworthily, there won’t be a standard design of GeForce GTX460 – instead, the AICs have their own design rights. If things go well enough, the GeForce GTX 460 will make its debut on June 1st, with a similar price to Radeon HD 5850.....

http://en.expreview.com/2010/04/08/g...html#more-7014

[Jamesrt2004]

nice

but is that this pricehiked £250 h5850 or the launch £200... either way i believe ati will drop the price if it's any good

interesting that there is pretty much no reference design.. guess it saves nvidia some time as it just means all the AIB's will be at war to try get it out first

[vitchilo]

Same price as the 5850? Still gonna get a 5850 since the 470 still have a hard time beating 5850...

[zanzabar]

lets hope its a real new chip and not just a new cutdown, and that since it should be smaller it will use way less power like in the 150W range

[tool_462]

I like the no reference cooler approach I think.

Would be nice if this fell between the useless 5830 and the bang-for-your-buck champion 5850 when actual prices show up.

[Caparroz]

gtx460 @ 5850 price point = major epic fail.

Even though Nvidia is trying to fail at every thing it does recently, unfornunately, I think this is just a baseless rumor. I mean,c'mon, this is just stupid.

[ajaidev]

Just how many SP's is this suppose to have?

The 448SP's @ 600Mhz/1200Mhz approach they did with the GTX 470 does not seem capable of fighting with the 5870 instead its more like a 5850 competitor....

If the GTX 460 is a 416SP's and around 700Mhz/1400Mhz it would be a pain for GTX 470, the point being the GTX 460 cant perform as well as the GTX 470 and in which case it will be hard for it to go against a 5850 not to mention the new 5850 V2's with OC's and 2GB's

[tajoh111]

Just how many SP's is this suppose to have?

The 448SP's @ 600Mhz/1200Mhz approach they did with the GTX 470 does not seem capable of fighting with the 5870 instead its more like a 5850 competitor....

If the GTX 460 is a 416SP's and around 700Mhz/1400Mhz it would be a pain for GTX 470, the point being the GTX 460 cant perform as well as the GTX 470 and in which case it will be hard for it to go against a 5850 not to mention the new 5850 V2's with OC's and 2GB's

It doesn't matter if it beats the gtx 470, I think for long term profitability, the gtx 460 is likely to more profitable than the gtx 470. The gtx 470 is a very expensive chip to make because of its size and the supposed yield problems.

NV needs to make a smaller chip that clocks high so that it can match the performance of the 5850 at a low cost to them.

[ajaidev]

It doesn't matter if it beats the gtx 470, I think for long term profitability, the gtx 460 is likely to more profitable than the gtx 470. The gtx 470 is a very expensive chip to make because of its size and the supposed yield problems.

NV needs to make a smaller chip that clocks high so that it can match the performance of the 5850 at a low cost to them.

The GTX 470 can also be clocked higher but if it is it will be too close to GTX 480's performance.

IF NV releases a GTX 460 that does better than a GTX 470 they have to release a GTX 480 successor also not to mention phase out GTX 470 completely.

They do need a small chip and also a fully functional high end one with all the 512 SP's goodness among other things.

[Helloworld_98]

Same price as the 5850? Still gonna get a 5850 since the 470 still have a hard time beating 5850...

You serious?

on average fps it's about the same, normally slightly better than the 5850 and on minimum fps it beats it by a considerable amount

[zalbard]

Noteworthily, there won’t be a standard design of GeForce GTX460 – instead, the AICs have their own design rights.

Hope we will see some quality designs and not just some really crappy cards in order to save up on everything.
Maybe MSI GTX275 Lightning 2.0?!

Oh, and fail pricing so far, but we will see how drivers mature, etc.

[eric66]

wow i think i am gonna wait until june in order to buy 460 cause 5850 is only on par with 470 oh wait a minute .......

[Caparroz]

It doesn't matter if it beats the gtx 470, I think for long term profitability, the gtx 460 is likely to more profitable than the gtx 470. The gtx 470 is a very expensive chip to make because of its size and the supposed yield problems.

NV needs to make a smaller chip that clocks high so that it can match the performance of the 5850 at a low cost to them.

Do you really think if there's a gtx460 it won't be based on failed gf100 chips?

[Jowy Atreides]

If it's fermi based

......will it match the gtx 285 performance level?
Will it have higher power consumption than the 285 for that performance level?

[Olivon]

Do you really think if there's a gtx460 it won't be based on failed gf100 chips?

That's another chip, GF104 ...

[Mechromancer]

GTX460 will be a good card if it's very fast at Folding@Home, is newer silicon than GF100, and uses less voltage for less heat/power consumption. The GPGPU speedup this uarch adds for desktops is the only thing it has going for it really.

[LordEC911]

GTX460 will be a good card if it's very fast at Folding@Home, is newer silicon than GF100, and uses less voltage for less heat/power consumption. The GPGPU speedup this uarch adds for desktops is the only thing it has going for it really.

Nope... A3.
So yeah, yields are fine guys... we are just releasing a lower binned GTX460 for fun... It isn't only ~3-4 months into A3 production...

That's another chip, GF104 ...

It is a cutdown GF100.

Just an FYI- GF104 will not be pin compatiable with GF100 PCBs... That should be a given guys.

As far as CCs, probably 384-416.

[naokaji]

gtx460 @ 5850 price point = major epic fail.

Even though Nvidia is trying to fail at every thing it does recently, unfornunately, I think this is just a baseless rumor. I mean,c'mon, this is just stupid.

If it turns out true, it will essentially be the nvidia edition of the 5830, slow, overpriced and sucking too much elec. Not a product that makes sense for people around here, but if Ati can find suckers to buy the the nonsense 5830 then Nvidia can sell the nonsense 460 as well.

[Olivon]

That uses GF100-275-A3 chips?

Just an FYI- GF104 will not be pin compatiable with GF100 PCBs... That should be a given guys.

You're right LordEC, I was thinking about GTS 450, my bad

[LordEC911]

You're right LordEC, I was thinking about GTS 450, my bad

Yeah, according to some that is basically just a chop in half of GF100 and should be between 5830 and 5770 in performance.

[tool_462]

Yeah, according to some that is basically just a chop in half of GF100 and should be between 5830 and 5770 in performance.

If it uses half the power and is cheap I'll love a tri-sli vs. trifire 5770 battle off of the not-so-economical but fun setup

[Jowy Atreides]

Yeah, according to some that is basically just a chop in half of GF100 and should be between 5830 and 5770 in performance.

GTX 460 = a little faster than GTX 280?

Could be a great card if the price is right

[Katanai]

GTX 460 = a little faster than GTX 280?

Could be a great card if the price is right

Yeah if the price/performance is right this could be the only card in the new series that manages decent sales.


Dude, I just gotta ask: what's with that smart-looking guy in your avatar? I've noticed it's the new xs logo but who is it supposed to represent?

[I_no]

Dude, I just gotta ask: what's with that pedo-looking guy in your avatar? I've noticed it's the new xs logo but who is it supposed to represent?

Its supposed to be Dave - the movieman

[saaya]

one question... if gf100 yields are so bad... why isnt nvidia selling a gtx460 right away based on gf100 chips and with 256sps enabled? and then they update it with a gf104 version which consumes less power and maybe has more rops or tmus?
i just dont get why they throw away so many chips... even if they have good yields of 40%, which is incredible for such a huge chip as gf100, they would end up with at least 30 gf100 chips that have half of the die damaged but can still work as a mainstream to performance gpu, with around 256sps enabled... why do they rather throw them away and wait a quarter?