Cebit: Areca ARC-1880 sas-6G-raid-adapters

[Agrophel]

http://translate.google.com/translat...n&hl=&ie=UTF-8

8 port version available "immediately"

Look like 12+ port wont come yet, then need wait some more :/

ARC-1880LP 8 ports 1x SFF-8087 1x SFF-8088
ARC-1880i 8 ports 2x SFF-8087
ARC-1880x 8 ports 2x SFF-8088
ARC-1880ix-12 12(+4 ext) ports 3x SFF-8087 1x SFF-8088, DIMM slot
ARC-1880ix-16 16(+4 ext) ports 4x SFF-8087 1x SFF-8088, DIMM slot
ARC-1880ix-24 24(+4 ext) ports 6x SFF-8087 1x SFF-8088, DIMM slot

[SteveRo]

Looks like only 256 or 512 memory until the 12 port comes out - whenever that will be.
Marvel 88RC9580 processor at 800mhz - anyone have any info on this?

[Agrophel]

yea use marvel chip at 800mhz. Or can read it here: http://translate.google.com/translat...n&hl=&ie=UTF-8

[NapalmV5]

ill take 2012 over any sas/marvell controller

1231 has nothing to worry about for a very long time to come

[Computurd]

very interesting.....PRICE????

Note: all controllers are SAS/SATA
@napalm LOL

[alfaunits]

1231 has nothing to worry about for a very long time to come

Except that it bunks arrays for no reasons and the fact that LSI has some asswooping controllers out?

[SteveRo]

The new LSI controllers are catching up quickly.
I think Tilt's best HDD vantage score (9211 with 8? x25m's) is better than mine (1231ml-4G, 12xacard).
I'm not sure if Tilt's latest HDD vantage runs are with or without the new LSI software, Tilt?
Vantage is only one benchmark, but that said, interesting to note that if you look at the top 20 in PCMark Vantage (the over-all test suite scores) - from 1 to 5 it goes: 1231, 1231, 1680, 1680, 1231 (all Areca's) - http://www.futuremark.com/community/...pcmarkvantage/
The new LSI controller based systems currently hold (at least) positions 8 and 12 in the top 20 (there could be more LSI's in the top 20 - sometimes hard to tell).
CompuT's run at 20938 is right up there - #12 in the top 20 - the new LSI software should hopefully propel these systems higher.

[Tiltevros]

soon my results will be public so u will see
the only way that the LSI will be in top 5 past correctly the learning period of the BBU. and using the controller with write back with BBU settings for some reasons the learning periond last for 30 days... At least to me..
now for the 9211 just wait and u will see the performance charts.

[Tiltevros]

now for perfomance comparing to the ARECAs
lsi is using DDR2 @ 800Mhz but the ARC clocked at 533Mhz...

LSI-9260
Features
Eight internal SATA+SAS ports
Two mini-SAS SFF-8087 x4 connectors
6Gb/s throughput per port
LSISAS2108 RAID-on-Chip (ROC)
o 800MHz PowerPC®
Low-profile MD2 form factor (6.6” X 2.536”)
x8 PCI Express 2.0 host interface
512MB DDRII cache (800MHz)


ARECA 1880

Test Copies of the ARC-1880, already last year at the Cebit show with the promise that the cards in the first quarter of 2010 would come on the market. The new adapters are no longer based on I / O processors from Intel, but running on a Marvell 88RC9580 processor. This chip is clocked at 800MHz and features an integrated controller sas-6G. The cards have a PCI Express 2.0 interface with eight lanes and are standard equipped with 512MB DDR2-533 memory.

[stevecs]

I like the low profile design of the 1880x though I would really like to have seen a 12 port model (2 8088's and an internal 8087) which would be perfect for server cases to you can run the internal boot mirror off the card and then attach external storage chassis since you're still limited to 4 cards per system. Also 1GB of ram would have been real nice to see build on-board. Are we sure it's 512MB only on the release models?

[jfromeo]

Where can the LSI controllers be found in Europe? Do they have something to do with 3Ware?

[stevecs]

LSI bought 3ware so if you see 3ware cards for sale somewhere you should also be able to get the LSI ones as it's the same company.

[SteveRo]

What I find remarkable is the value difference - LSI 9211-8i for ~$235 versus Areca 1231-4G for ~$1200
The 9211 gets at least 80-90% of the 1231-4G performance - with the new s/w - it should only get better.

[SteveRo]

now for perfomance comparing to the ARECAs
lsi is using DDR2 @ 800Mhz but the ARC clocked at 533Mhz...

LSI-9260
Features
Eight internal SATA+SAS ports
Two mini-SAS SFF-8087 x4 connectors
6Gb/s throughput per port
LSISAS2108 RAID-on-Chip (ROC)
o 800MHz PowerPC®
Low-profile MD2 form factor (6.6” X 2.536”)
x8 PCI Express 2.0 host interface
512MB DDRII cache (800MHz)


ARECA 1880

Test Copies of the ARC-1880, already last year at the Cebit show with the promise that the cards in the first quarter of 2010 would come on the market. The new adapters are no longer based on I / O processors from Intel, but running on a Marvell 88RC9580 processor. This chip is clocked at 800MHz and features an integrated controller sas-6G. The cards have a PCI Express 2.0 interface with eight lanes and are standard equipped with 512MB DDR2-533 memory.

Good morning Tilt,

Yep the 9260 should match up well with the intial batch of 1880's - it is reported that the later - full height 1880's (the 12, 16 and 24 port controllers) will be able to use up to 4GB cache - those are the ones that most xtreme user types (me included) are waiting for.

[Computurd]

not to mention that LSI's cards are more mature. they have made absolutely fantastic progress, and with the promised coming increase in performance...who knows. they are saying a few weeks for the new firmware. the arecas do look promising, dont get me wrong. but i think they are a l9ittle late and it will take time to catch up. i wonder if they pass trim. and where are the prices dammit? i might just buy one to totally bench the out of.

[felix_w]

i wonder if they pass trim.

wondering the same thing...that would be a great feature

[stevecs]

I am more interested if they implemented DIX/DIF extension support and large sectors (524/528b or 4160b) like they mentioned last year. TRIM just moves the delete/erase cycle to the delete phase which may help some of the user experience of a SSD but that's pretty well masked if you have ram cache which you would on raid cards. (acting as a buffer) whereas the DIX/DIF is more for data integrity.

[Computurd]

for an immediately available card it sure is scarce. no sign of it anywhere. not even listed on their site. i doubt you will see anyone pass trim for a long time.

[Mastakilla]

Where can the LSI controllers be found in Europe? Do they have something to do with 3Ware?

wondering the same thing... still havent seen them in stock anywhere in Belgium / Netherlands

[nFo]

wondering the same thing... still havent seen them in stock anywhere in Belgium / Netherlands

I orded a LSI SAS 9211-8i @ Zercom.eu / netherlands.

[Computurd]

nice choice

[Nitrobass24]

Still waiting for these to become available

[Computurd]

gotta love those 'paper launches', not listed on their site either.

[Wintel64]

Can't find any update information about ARC-1880 yet.

[Computurd]

webconnexion has them listed for sale on april 30th. so we will still be waiting a bit...