BloodRage-Memory timings change by themselves

[Slayer68]

I'm having an issue with my BloodRage BIOS changing the memory timings when XMP is disabled and I have manual timings selected. Specifically the tRAS is changing by itself regardless of what I set.

Currently I'm running a mild overclock to 3.2 (3.5 with turbo on) the memory is at 1604 Mhz using a 160 mhz FSB

I have Mushkin Redlines 991692(998692) DDR3 1600 the ones with the extra wide heatsink. They should run at 6-7-6-18. The problem is that the 18 changes itself to a 16 after a reboot-no matter what I do. If I change it, I can verify the setting stays in CPU-Z but as soon as I restart the machine or power off it changes to 16. It did this in the P09 BIOS and now is also the same problem with the G32. Have tried clearing CMOS etc etc to no avail.

It wouldnt be too great of a problem but 16 tRAS will not pass Prime95 and ocasionally crashes when I'm gaming.

I'm completely stumped on this as Im using manual settings....

[faria]

I have same problem with gskill trident 1600 cl6.

The 18 always change to 16.

[saaya]

ask carl aka lordtrident, ideally send him an spd dump, that should help a lot

it doesnt really matter though... just set it to some higher value and leave it there... tras has 0.00001% impact on performance

[Mescalamba]

Known problem.. its corrected in G32, but it will take some time until we get P10 (final BIOS release).

[faria]

Known problem.. its corrected in G32, but it will take some time until we get P10 (final BIOS release).

Same problem with that bios.

[Slayer68]

Yep I'm running G32 and it still changes by itself. Any idea how I would extract the timings from that SPD saaya? CPU-Z shows it at several speeds bu I don't think thats what your talking about..

[Mescalamba]

Um.. really? Cause it disappeared after G32 for me.. (flash G32, wipe CMOS, force boot from G32 - load defaults.. set whatever you want.. and works?). I know, bit long way, but youll get used to.. (DFi is pretty similar in this).

[Slayer68]

Tried flashing clearing etc with G32. But it still changes itself from 18 to 16 tRAS. Tired bumping it to 19 and it still reverts to 16 at the next boot. Bumped again to 20 and now it is staying there after several reboots. Very strange indeed.

[saaya]

mascalamba, can you post your spd here?
that spd seems to work, so if that spd works on their mem sticks, it should, then it would fix their problem until a new bios comes out that hopefully fixes this bug for all spds...

[Mescalamba]

Not sure anyone would like almost "clear" SPD.. (those are 1333 CL9 stix..). Plus its Micron.. it can probably kill some "normal" memory. Just idea, is it possible that BR simply likes Micron that much, that it doesnt make problem with them?

And another one.. is it really BR fault, or it has something to do with IMC being inside CPU?

[saaya]

its BRs fault... it doesnt interpret the spd timings correctly...
and no, i dont think an spd can kill any memory...
all it does is configure the timings, and i dont know a stick of memory that died from trying to set too tight timings, do you?

[To(V)bo Co(V)bo]

its BRs fault... it doesnt interpret the spd timings correctly...
and no, i dont think an spd can kill any memory...
all it does is configure the timings, and i dont know a stick of memory that died from trying to set too tight timings, do you?

I got that also on P09. Memory spd is all wacky, didnt have that problem on P06 though. My bios says 7-8-8-24 but cpuz says 8-8-8-24. Which is right? and how do I compensate for this.

[Mescalamba]

Heh maybe I have wrong reported timings too.. never checked them that much.

Well, Everest says 8-8-8-24 and CPU-Z same.. and Ive set those in BIOS, I guess its right then.. Tough, last time I put PC to sleep I got 7-8-8-24 .. I guess that there will be bit of issue with timings always.

[Slayer68]

Sorry to revive an old issue but I've also now had a chance to use the G40 BIOS and the issue persists RAS changes itself(XMP=off, timings=manual). With settings on manual they change themselves after 1 reboot-weird that it works for the first boot after changing then it switches to something totaly different the next.

Also the SPD on my memory says CR should be 0 but it is not a selectable option Auto,1,2,3 are the choices and the WTR should be 6 but the lowest I can select is AUTO or 11(auto will set 14)

I don't mind manually setting timing at all, I just wish this board would stick with the settings I set by hand. It's frustrating to have high performance ram and not be able to set it for how it is spec'd. I can run prime95 just fine until I reboot then it's crash time because the board decided to bypass my manual settings....

[PiLsY]

Likewise with D9GTR ballistix. Tras changes to 16 at the first cold boot when using 17, 18 or 19. 20 and above sticks.

Tras shuld be Tcl + Trcd +2 at minimum to avoid corruption. Seeing as im running 8-9-8 that puts my min tras at 19, not the 16 it keeps setting. No hdd corruption yet but I am a little concerned.

[Slayer68]

Likewise with D9GTR ballistix. Tras changes to 16 at the first cold boot when using 17, 18 or 19. 20 and above sticks.

Tras shuld be Tcl + Trcd +2 at minimum to avoid corruption. Seeing as im running 8-9-8 that puts my min tras at 19, not the 16 it keeps setting. No hdd corruption yet but I am a little concerned.

Mine should be 6-7-6-18 , the 18 always goes to 16 on the following reboot, 19 is the same but 20 works. Kind of strange because I've read a lot of posts that have the same problem of setting 16- across different brands of memory etc.

[saaya]

if your not sure about the timings, cpuz is more reliable than the br bios for sure
check cpu tweaker, that should def get it right
and maybe check everest and hwinfo as well...

im pretty sure the software tools will all read the same and are probably right...
its a shame that br still cant interpret spd files properly :/

[Sarker]

That maybe is Intel MRC auto training issue, as I know the newest MRC can auto training to DDRIII 2133MHz.

[PiLsY]

Nah confirmed in cpuz and everest Saaya. Using 17, 18 or 19 sets 16 after the first cold boot. 20 and above works fine.

[Slayer68]

Same here and I am using CPUz, everest and other programs to cross check the BIOS. The fact is it changes by itself even on manual mode.