Looking forward to 6 core cpu's

[Tom128]

13.0mm * 18.9mm = 263mm2????

[Nedjo]

NEdjo: but Thuban is a bit diferent die, can be maybe a bit smaller size?

I wouldn't know that!

[Particle]

13.0mm * 18.9mm = 263mm2????

Good catch. Either one of the dimensions are off or it's a 246mm^2 core.

[Mech0z]

I wonder if my next upgrade (From trusty Q6600) should be i5 with dice oc, deneb with ln2 or thuban with whatever that can take and then a 890FX with sata3 and bulldozer support.
I am really in doubt when I wanna overclock :o prolly depends on how thuban does on ln2

[Hans de Vries]

13.0mm * 18.9mm = 263mm2????

The 246mm^2 is the size without the test circuits at the edges.



Regards, Hans

[Hans de Vries]

The roadmap on the top is the genuine roadmap from the AMD.

I think that the Zosma = Thuban with 2 disabled cores.

If Zosma is Thuban with 2 disabled cores and the Zosma 960T is 95W
at 3.3 GHz (Lower power dissipation as Deneb) that would be good news.

It would indicate that power gating removes the idle current (mostly leakage)
of the disabled cores. Power gating is used in Intel's Turbo mode.


Regards, Hans

[superrugal]

I have a question , anybody knows what's "Cool Speed" below magny-cours and lisbon???

[Oliverda]

I have a question , anybody knows what's "Cool Speed" below magny-cours and lisbon???

"The processor provides protection to processor integrity by reducing the power states when it reaches a temperature limit. This will help platform providers in reducing system fan speeds which eventually could result in better efficiency."

[flippin_waffles]

http://citavia.blog.de/2010/01/31/gl...l/1/#c12177024

Saw this on AMDZone. Interesting read about HKMG at GF, I wonder what that is all about.

[haylui]

So selling a 258mm2 Deneb die from 145$ is economical, but a 346mm2 for 400$ isn't.
Seems to me for simple economic reason they should be selling 6core for 400$ rather than denebs for less than half as much, BTW Intel can charge up to 562$ for the 950.
With their current server marketshare there should be capacity to drop 6 cores on the desktop.



Last I heard even AMD execs wouldn't buy their own platforms I doubt beside fanboys many cares. Delaying the 6 core cpus for almost a year because of this is really unlikely, especially if it goes against economic reasons. Intel tried several times to establish a platform on the desktop not many could name one, let alone AMD's.



6 core cpu, people who buy platforms won't really need one.
890 chipset, what difference would it make over the current ones that platform buyers benefit from ? I believe close to nothing.
5800 series Vga, same as 6 core cpu, people who buy platforms most likely do fine with the IGP.



Unless they have to touch that area because the g34 will use quad channel memory and it needs a little tweaking for optimum performance.



This is not a desktop only cpu, what you don't seem to get that this is the same die they use in the new server cpus which will launch this year and not the ones they did last year. Otherwise it would have been out last summer.

who told you about that? Intel?
another fallen for Intel's market/court defence strategy .....

[haylui]

http://citavia.blog.de/2010/01/31/gl...l/1/#c12177024

Saw this on AMDZone. Interesting read about HKMG at GF, I wonder what that is all about.

means GF is able to deliver 45nm HKMG chips

[flippin_waffles]

Oh ok. I thought it was something significant when I first read it. but I wonder who could or would use 45nm HKMG. They wouldn't develop it just for practice would they?