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    Post Frozen Water??

    I'm wanting to move my computer into my other room which happens to be a garage, I was curious if the water would freeze over night while I'm not using it. I live in Florida so now is the only time I would even bother worrying about it. So far the lowest we've gotten has been about 18' F.

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    If you use antifreeze as your additive for color and biocide then I guess it wouldnt'.

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    I was thinking about doing that but I was worried about the antifreeze messing it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrpuffpuff18 View Post
    I was thinking about doing that but I was worried about the antifreeze messing it up.
    I'm also a Floridian. Do you really want to deal with 100F+ water in a month?
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    Im not sure of what youre asking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrpuffpuff18 View Post
    Im not sure of what youre asking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaeKuh View Post
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    We have an a/c unit in here to keep it around 70-75' in the summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrpuffpuff18 View Post
    I'm wanting to move my computer into my other room which happens to be a garage, I was curious if the water would freeze over night while I'm not using it. I live in Florida so now is the only time I would even bother worrying about it. So far the lowest we've gotten has been about 18' F.
    If your computer get exposed to temperatures below 32F you will want to use antifreeze - especially when the computer is shut off.
    Another thing is danger of condensation if you run your system in such low temperatures..

    But on the other hand - I wouldn't like to have my computer in a place as cold as 18F - I would freeze my butts off
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    also... the cold isnt good for hard drives...

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    Water freezes around 32f or 0c but if your system is on the freezing temp would be a little lower, not sure how much lower though. Maybe like
    25f. But below 20f i would imagine it would freeze even with the
    system running.

    I have had my pump start sounding like a slushy machine before from
    chilled cooling, one of the reasons i went with nano fluid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sirheck View Post
    Water freezes around 32f or 0c but if your system is on the freezing temp would be a little lower, not sure how much lower though. Maybe like
    25f. But below 20f i would imagine it would freeze even with the
    system running.

    I have had my pump start sounding like a slushy machine before from
    chilled cooling, one of the reasons i went with nano fluid.
    If the OP is in South Florida, it will never get within 5-7c of 20.

    OTOH, garages are prone to all sorts of disasters I'd hate to have my PC in the vicinity of, let alone the dust, sand, bugs, lizards, spiders, etc., etc., etc. we're known for down here...
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    Quote Originally Posted by warriorpoet View Post
    If the OP is in South Florida, it will never get within 5-7c of 20.

    OTOH, garages are prone to all sorts of disasters I'd hate to have my PC in the vicinity of, let alone the dust, sand, bugs, lizards, spiders, etc., etc., etc. we're known for down here...
    Or an alligator might eat it
    Right now were i am it is 0f
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    Quote Originally Posted by sirheck View Post
    Or an alligator might eat it
    Right now were i am it is 0f
    I was at or below 0f every year from 1980 to 1998 when I moved South, came back for 2 years, regained my sanity, moved back South.

    Funnily to me, we are talking about historic lows, severe weather warnings and deadly cold- the coldest it's been in decades. Yeah, we're hitting the low 30s
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    Relax guys, I'm betting it's a finished garage converted to a bedroom - it merely lacks support from the central heating system as garages typically don't have vents. Simple

    (The AC he's saying will be there is probably from a window unit...)

    My guess at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antioch View Post
    Relax guys, I'm betting it's a finished garage converted to a bedroom - it merely lacks support from the central heating system as garages typically don't have vents. Simple

    (The AC he's saying will be there is probably from a window unit...)

    My guess at least.
    We have a lot of AC'd garages 'round here
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    Get a heater for the garage, about $45, from Wally World or Lowes and heat the garage up to around 20c before messing with your computer. You will be much more comfortable and it won't take but about ten minutes to do.
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    Or.. save some money... and fire up some prime95 benchmarks for 10 minutes each morning, turning the rad fans on full. It'll warm things up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antioch View Post
    Or.. save some money... and fire up some prime95 benchmarks for 10 minutes each morning, turning the rad fans on full. It'll warm things up.
    I used to do this in my room when it was 10C to heat it up to at least 16 worked wonderfully 2 gtx260's and a corei7 makes a good heater.

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    There are many mechanical components inside the PC that won't like that -7C temperature. Optical drives, hard drives and water pumps, unless designed for such low temperatures. On the other hand, the electric components will enjoy the cold while dry, but are likely to form condensation.
    If the water freezes somewhere in the system, you're in for a sudden pc death. Frozen water dilates and WILL bust the rads open, cracking them. I live in Romania and during the winter we sometimes reach -25C. It's rare, but not unseen. When we have such lows lots of cars die from it as well, from the rad problem outlined above.
    I'd say stay away from it... why do you want to move the PC in the garage anyway?

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    Everyone is missing the obvious. If the pc is in a garage, even an uninsulated one it is not likely to ever see freezing temps. Even in NC where it has been in the teens every day lately my garage has never gotten below freezing. A sheltered garage will never be as cold as the outside.
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    You mean something like this???


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    I'd be really worried about condensation... I don't think it's really worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by genec57 View Post
    Everyone is missing the obvious. If the pc is in a garage, even an uninsulated one it is not likely to ever see freezing temps. Even in NC where it has been in the teens every day lately my garage has never gotten below freezing. A sheltered garage will never be as cold as the outside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zigosity View Post
    I'd be really worried about condensation... I don't think it's really worth it.
    condensation? think two different temps...oh wait...think if there is no difference.


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    Quote Originally Posted by genec57 View Post
    Everyone is missing the obvious. If the pc is in a garage, even an uninsulated one it is not likely to ever see freezing temps. Even in NC where it has been in the teens every day lately my garage has never gotten below freezing. A sheltered garage will never be as cold as the outside.
    You have clearly not been in many uninsulated garages... step out to mine right now... I'm positive if i had thermometers outside and one in the garage, they would read exactly the same thing: FING COLD! now wind chill is a different story....
    But then I live in Kansas not Florida, and it is currently 7F outside...
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