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    Quote Originally Posted by To(V)bo Co(V)bo View Post
    Even better, I just got it for 100$ with a free ICYDOCK.

    Anyone looking for a Velociraptor?
    300GB or 150GB?

    I need another 150GB for RAID.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowfat View Post
    I don't see a market for VRaptor's anymore. If people want speed they buy SSD's.
    I trust Vraptors for data integrity and reliability. Too many issues with SSD firmware issues and spoty trim and conflicting reports of performance problems with use. SSD is still largely being beta tested by the public, despite "gen 2" labels. Show me an SSD that requires no more maintenance than one of my SAS drives or a VR drive and without risk to my data at a reasonable price/GB, and I'll grab it.

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    I had my WD Caviar go check disk on me today, scared the crap out of me (since all my music is on there) but all came out fine.
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    This is great. I will pick some 600GB up when they come out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speederlander View Post
    I trust Vraptors for data integrity and reliability. Too many issues with SSD firmware issues and spoty trim and conflicting reports of performance problems with use. SSD is still largely being beta tested by the public, despite "gen 2" labels. Show me an SSD that requires no more maintenance than one of my SAS drives or a VR drive and without risk to my data at a reasonable price/GB, and I'll grab it.
    Agreed 100%. I've got vertex and intel SSD's. Blazing ing fast, but finicky to save the best. On my gaming box, no ing problem, two in raid0 and off I go, it's awesome.

    On my workstation, wouldn't touch them with a 10 foot pole, and I also need so much storage it would cost a ton of cash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oliverda View Post
    Great news!

    I need at least 160GB for the OS and the applications/games and a good 160GB SSD is very expensive. I think I'll choose the next-gen Raptor instead of a SSD.

    300GB platters
    64MB cache
    SATA 3

    Sounds good.

    Maybe they'll implement the recently released Advanced Format technology as well.
    What.. do you quad boot ..? How could any OS, or any 3 OS's take up 160GB .??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xoulz View Post
    What.. do you quad boot ..? How could any OS, or any 3 OS's take up 160GB .??
    I need at least 160GB for the OS and the applications/games...

    I put every applications and games on it as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hell Hound View Post
    Velociraptor vs SSD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlB8r_0dDlI The Velociraptor are great drives.
    An Intel or Indilinx based drive would blow that gen1 Jmicron-crap drive out of the water. That's a really bad comparison. A movie showing a x25-m vs a VelociRaptor would show the real difference.

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    You were saying ?

    You guys will love THIS
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    Wow this thread drew more attention (a lot more) than I anticipated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Afterburner View Post
    You were saying ?

    You guys will love THIS
    Those of us who like to start 50 programs at once are going to be crushed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Particle View Post
    Those of us who like to start 50 programs at once are going to be crushed.
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    Nonsense,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Afterburner View Post
    You were saying ?

    You guys will love THIS
    No surprise. That's the older generation Raptor, though. Not a VelociRaptor.

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    I must have missed it. When are releasing these drives? Until 256g ssd's fall under $300, I see a market for these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LedHed View Post
    actual performance =/ load times
    Mod the hell out of Oblivion then come back and tell me if load times don't effect performance. I don't understand why people use a vanilla (unmodded) fps as the only example of your HDD's effect on gaming performance.

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    I never personally saw a difference when I bought my Raptor. (The first ones, not the VRaptors.) A gimmick and a waste of money IMO, leave the 10-15K RPM drives for servers running databases, or even better scrap them altogether and stick with SSDs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yngndrw View Post
    I never personally saw a difference when I bought my Raptor. (The first ones, not the VRaptors.) A gimmick and a waste of money IMO, leave the 10-15K RPM drives for servers running databases, or even better scrap them altogether and stick with SSDs.
    I agree, I had a 74GB model with 16MB cache and never noticed a difference between it and my 250GB AAKS and 2 of the cheap AAKS drives in raid0 walked all over the 74GB Raptor.

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    I never personally saw a difference when I bought my Raptor. (The first ones, not the VRaptors.) A gimmick and a waste of money IMO, leave the 10-15K RPM drives for servers running databases, or even better scrap them altogether and stick with SSDs.
    I guess if your video editing having larger drives will help... When raptor came out it was very nice and I loaded before everyone else.. but the problem is.. I WAIT FOR EVERYONE ELSE....
    If you want speed and storage go the seagate 15k.6 or 15k.7 with a controller 680$ for 600GB almost a 1$ per GB also lower access time compared to 10k drives. I get about 280 MBs across most of the drive (147GB 2x raid 0 [15k.6])
    It works fast along with ridiculously large uncompressed video

    120 GB of OCZ Colossus SSD costs 500CDN 4xcost PER gb?

    I'm tired of running out of high speed space, until SSDs hit larger capacity at less then a dollar per GB I'm sticking to HDs.
    I think WD should upgrade the raptors to 15k speeds and more storage...

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    tripple platter 1 TB 10K drive 64 cache OOOOHHH YAAAAAA
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    Just curious why WD doesn't go with a higher platter speed like SCSI drives do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob94hawk View Post
    Just curious why WD doesn't go with a higher platter speed like SCSI drives do?
    Too expensive, generates a lot of heat and is more difficult to make. It's really just about cost, they don't feel they would sell at the price they need to sell them at.
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    Rob they want reliable bullet proof and pushing it over 10K might up cost alot to keep it running for a long time.

    I think a tripple platter is needed just bumping from 300 to 600 isn't enough bang when 180.00 2TB drives that runs about as fast as the current VR.

    900 or 1TB raptor would be the ticket for these large games and give useable storage size.
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    1TB raptor at a low enough price point would easily woo a lot of people I think.

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    I would buy it until hi-class SSDs cost a lot.

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    3,5", 1TB, 500GB/platter, 2 actuator, 10k RPM drive with 64MB cache would be a killer imo. Price should be pretty normal. WD Velociraptor is expensive because of the 2,5" form factor if you ask me. This one shouldn't be, even with larger cache and more complex mechanics. And considering my past experience with Spinpoint F3 1TB, i think this would be perfectly possible.
    Some sort of internal RAID, but on the same physical platters.
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