AMD Athlon 2650e & X2 3250e - Better than Atom for SFF Desktops

[ajaidev]

"Dell has really come into its own in the past few years. Shedding the image (and fur?) of yet another cheap PC OEM, Dell has tried to make design a more important part of its manufacturing as of late. Not every design is a win, but the zino HD appears to be the first nettop styled to have mass market appeal.."

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=3703&p=1

Humm not bad well not good either, i was waiting for Pine-trail but seems like it has not brought anything revolutionary along with it so i have ordered FIT PC2 which supports h/w acceleration for VC1, AVC and MPEG all the codes i want

My next HTPC maybe based on AMD Bobcat but for now my FIT PC2 with a Atom CPU is suppose to rock my world...

[BrowncoatGR]

The 2650e is a single-core K8 based Socket-AM2/AM2+ processor that runs at 1.6GHz. It’s got 512KB of L2 cache and the rest of the feature set of the older K8 AM2 processors. As an AM2 chip it’s DDR2 only and physically won’t fit or work in an AM3 motherboard. Keep that in mind before you go sticking one of these where it doesn’t belong.

Based on its specs, the Athlon 2650e is a near perfect competitor for Intel’s Atom. The newly announced D510 runs at 1.66GHz (close enough), but is an in-order architecture with Hyper Threading. Bottom line? The Athlon 2650e should be faster in single threaded apps, but slower in multitasking/multithreaded applications. Great. Atom boasts a lower total TDP as well.

Seriously i hope he's joking cause that is just nonsense.

[flippin_waffles]

Browncoat, I'll wager that is more of intel's influence at work... I don't care what anybody says, IMO Anand has also always had an intel bias.

[Frank M]

Seriously i hope he's joking cause that is just nonsense.

Why? A SC OoO core is faster in single-threaded apps; while the 2C/4T
is faster in multi-threaded apps. Makes perfect sense, the numbers show
the same.

What surprised me though was that DC Atom + Ion still fared quite well
against the SC/DC K8 + 780G combo. I'm just waiting for the new Asrock
board with DC Atom + Ion + 4xSATA + PCIe x16 to appear in stores.

[flippin_waffles]

Why? A SC OoO core is faster in single-threaded apps; while the 2C/4T
is faster in multi-threaded apps. Makes perfect sense, the numbers show
the same.

Hmm not sure about that. It looks like the only thing the numbers show is that Anand could only come up with a couple intel optimized benchmarks that favour intel for his premise. I'm guessing a more extensive review would have shown a much different story.

[3NZ0]

Seriously i hope he's joking cause that is just nonsense.

Browncoat, I'll wager that is more of intel's influence at work... I don't care what anybody says, IMO Anand has also always had an intel bias.

You do realise that it's a comparison of a single core, single thread OoO against a dual core, quad thread In-order?

It makes perfect sense. The single, faster core is quicker in single threaded stuff while the slower but mutlithreaded cpu is quicker in multithreaded stuff. The X2 version should be quicker than the d510 as its a dualie and OoO.

The benchmarks in the article simply back this up.

[Hornet331]

You do realise that it's a comparison of a single core, single thread OoO against a dual core, quad thread In-order?

It makes perfect sense. The single, faster core is quicker in single threaded stuff while the slower but mutlithreaded cpu is quicker in multithreaded stuff. The X2 version should be quicker than the d510 as its a dualie and OoO.

The benchmarks in the article simply back this up.

psst let them in there belive.
But its quite ironic, that the same people cheer that a tripple/quadcore beats a dualcore in multithreaded apps, but at the same time cant belive that a dualcore can beat a singelcore in multithreaded apps...

[BrowncoatGR]

You do realise that it's a comparison of a single core, single thread OoO against a dual core, quad thread In-order?

It makes perfect sense. The single, faster core is quicker in single threaded stuff while the slower but mutlithreaded cpu is quicker in multithreaded stuff. The X2 version should be quicker than the d510 as its a dualie and OoO.

I didn't realize it was a dual-core atom. Thanks for the heads up. If that's the case this test actually makes sense. Apologies

[flippin_waffles]

wow, nor did I. Open mouth, insert foot. Apologies to thread and Anand.

[hollo]

impressed by the 4-thread atom, but 65nm k8s?
a low power 'sargas' would be nice http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...C2.2C_45_nm.29

[nn_step]

let me see if I get this straight....

They think comparing a seventh generation OoO Cpu to a second generation in-order processor with extensive focus on multi-threading is a proper comparison.
Benchmarking shouldn't even required. OoO always wins in single thread performance [that is why everyone chasing Single thread performance uses it] and the hardware with the better threading support will have better performance in threaded applications. [Hence Dual core always Beats hyperthreading; Hyperthreading beats course grain threading; Course grain threading beats no threading support for ALL thread intensive Applications.]

[Frank M]

a low power 'sargas' would be nice

Dude, a SC, IN 2010? That's sooo last decade

[Oliverda]

"Dell charges an extra $65 for the 3250e upgrade. Just to put things in perspective - $10 more and you could have yourself a complete Pine Trail platform."

Just to put things in perspective...

[flippin_waffles]

lol oh boy, a pine trail platform! yes! SCORE!