*King of the hill* A-Data XPC Plus DDR3 2200 CL8 v2.0 take a walk to DDR3 2680 CL8

[CryptiK]

So do you bin sticks and make your own kits with matched triads for X58 and pairs for P55/P67 (if you use that platform)?

I used to do that with D9's (DDR2) but never bought enough Hypers to do it with. I have picked up another couple of kits of Corsair 2000C8's so I will bin them with my existing kit. They love C8 but not so much C6/7 so will have to see how the others behave. They're just so rare now and P55/67 has ruined ram IMO because cheap sloppy timing ram gets huge bandwidth due to the IMC design and Hypers now being EOL there's nothing for the tight timing guys. I don't want to run DDR3-2300 9-11-9-X heh.

[websmile]

So do you bin sticks and make your own kits with matched triads for X58 and pairs for P55/P67 (if you use that platform)?

If I have the opportunity to do so, yes. But this requires that I buy single sticks, I could do that on STT 2000 C8, C7 and 2133 C8 and did so, in spite of the fact that I bought a couple of kits as well and was lucky-problem with at least Corsair and the kits of STT, OCZ and so on is that they have serial numbers showing to which kit they belong- you can bin for yourself, if you sell you have to reassemble the kits or buyer has problems with warrantyif he is out of luck

I used to do that with D9's (DDR2) but never bought enough Hypers to do it with. I have picked up another couple of kits of Corsair 2000C8's so I will bin them with my existing kit. They love C8 but not so much C6/7 so will have to see how the others behave. They're just so rare now and P55/67 has ruined ram IMO because cheap sloppy timing ram gets huge bandwidth due to the IMC design and Hypers now being EOL there's nothing for the tight timing guys. I don't want to run DDR3-2300 9-11-9-X heh.

+1 most of the kits sold for 150€ in Europe 2x2GB are simply cra*. Don´t want to waste my time with these, no bad feelings about PSC, own one or two kits myself(GEIL 2000 C6 for example) but most of the so-calles highend P67 kits are just rubbish in my eyes-just my two cents, everyone has the right to see this different^^

[cleiton]

Excuse my English, recently bought a memory kit 2x2GB Adata XPG Plus V2.0 1866 C8, and are Elpida MNH-E Hyper.

Some photos from my memory Kit









I wonder if there is any difference in overclocking between Elpida MGH and Elpida MNH.

[l0ud_sil3nc3]

MNH tend to die easier from what I have seen, as for oc ymmv, so only way to find out is to test each stick.

[cleiton]

MNH tend to die easier from what I have seen, as for oc ymmv, so only way to find out is to test each stick.

Thanks man...

[BeepBeep2]

Top bin MNH-E > Top bin MGH-E
Anything else is a crapshoot and MNH-E die quicker or are more likely to.

[Barr3l Rid3r]

Excuse my English, recently bought a memory kit 2x2GB Adata XPG Plus V2.0 1866 C8, and are Elpida MNH-E Hyper.

Some photos from my memory Kit


I wonder if there is any difference in overclocking between Elpida MGH and Elpida MNH.

Bro faz 2 favores pra gente, no CPU-z tem a semana e o ano que a memoria foi fabricada, na aba SPD, fala pra gente qual que eh. Por ultimo faz um over forte nelas ai e roda um prime blend pra gente ver como se comportam, acho que 1,68v ta bom pra dar uma ideia. Posta aqui depois.


I really doubt Adata would put in the early 2011 market a defective bath of chips that happens in mid 2009.
Most Supertalent 2000Mhz C8 Chrome are fine.


Some MNH-e still going on perfectly until today, w/out degradation. They are problably from a fixed bath, but

If higher binned MNH-E are better than MGH-E why don't we have any Dom GT TR3 2000C7 that are better than GTX2?

[chew*]

If higher binned MNH-E are better than MGH-E why don't we have any Dom GT TR3 2000C7 that are better than GTX2?

Becasue 99% are dead now? Still yet to RMA these, waiting for something worth Rmaing them for. There's more to.......didn't feel like digging them out.

I only have one triple channel set of TR3 that work still.

[l0ud_sil3nc3]

yup all my TR3 kits died (Corsair 1866 c7) and were replaced with 2000c8

[Barr3l Rid3r]

but only kingston and corsair died, adata, STT and g. skill most are working fine ...

All the corsair died and even their CMG 2000 C8 has degraded in my hands while my STT hadn't.

[cleiton]

This photo is from my friend's pc, I have no PC at the moment, I'm still riding...





I bought here http://www.amazon.com/ADATA-DDR3-186.../dp/B0041RS7A8

[BeepBeep2]

Most Supertalent 2000Mhz C8 Chrome are fine.
...
If higher binned MNH-E are better than MGH-E why don't we have any Dom GT TR3 2000C7 that are better than GTX2?

First of all most of the STT kits are MGH-E, except for the first batch or two of Project-X 2000 C7 from a long, long while back.


We did have G*Skill Perfect Storm kits doing better than GTX2, but none of those sticks are around anymore

I know as above chew*'s MNH-E is pretty much all dead and he takes care of his stuff.

but only kingston and corsair died, adata, STT and g. skill most are working fine ...

All the corsair died and even their CMG 2000 C8 has degraded in my hands while my STT hadn't.

I don't think anyone has their OCZ Blade kits either, (same heatsink as the Perfect Storm) those were hot sticks at release.

[Hondacity]

I don't think anyone has their OCZ Blade kits either, (same heatsink as the Perfect Storm) those were hot sticks at release.

i got some...

[BeepBeep2]

i got some...

All of them? You are lucky I bought some of the LV DDR2 blade and platinum, those were nice sticks as well. That whole line was really the last time we saw performance ram from OCZ

[Barr3l Rid3r]

First of all most of the STT kits are MGH-E, except for the first batch or two of Project-X 2000 C7 from a long, long while back.


We did have G*Skill Perfect Storm kits doing better than GTX2, but none of those sticks are around anymore

I know as above chew*'s MNH-E is pretty much all dead and he takes care of his stuff.


I don't think anyone has their OCZ Blade kits either, (same heatsink as the Perfect Storm) those were hot sticks at release.

I saw one of those PS once, 2133 c8-8-8-24 but it was triple channel and very expensive.

most of the STT 2000 C8 kits were MNH-E also, not only the projectX

I bough some adata mnh-e and some kingston 2000 C8 mgh-e used at ebay for $145 triple, lets see how they perform.

So there isn't any mnh-e that still going since a long time period?

[websmile]

I still own two 1866 C7 Corsair Triple Kits - they aren´t dead, aren´t degraded and still do 1000 C7-7-7 way below 1,65- both kits are from 2009 - seems some people are more lucky than others, I never lost a ram stick my whole life, and alle of the MNH-E and MGH-E I have or had(of which I know where they are now) are still alive. So it seems that there are at least some kits around- even at full strength

[chew*]

I still own two 1866 C7 Corsair Triple Kits - they aren´t dead, aren´t degraded and still do 1000 C7-7-7 way below 1,65- both kits are from 2009 - seems some people are more lucky than others, I never lost a ram stick my whole life, and alle of the MNH-E and MGH-E I have or had(of which I know where they are now) are still alive. So it seems that there are at least some kits around- even at full strength

If you rub mhn-e the wrong way they will instadeath no matter who the user is. Gary and raja from Anand had it down to a science and could pop just about any set. My sets popped from intentional, I was comparing to CMG and trying to pop the rev when it came out. Confirmed 2 sets of TRX can pop, confirmed same methods couldn't pop cmg.....

[websmile]

Was no problem for me, I didn´t do rewiews at that time and avoided buying Hyper then because I quickly saw the enormous failure rate. I don´t like RMAs, I had to do a lot because people sold me dead or defective rams in forums and much more often via ebay, so I saw no need to play early adopter then and do some more. The 1866s have sn 0936 and 0944, most likely MNH-E but not sure as I didn´t take of heatspreaders

[CryptiK]

If you rub mhn-e the wrong way they will instadeath no matter who the user is. Gary and raja from Anand had it down to a science and could pop just about any set. My sets popped from intentional, I was comparing to CMG and trying to pop the rev when it came out. Confirmed 2 sets of TRX can pop, confirmed same methods couldn't pop cmg.....

Never degraded my MNH-E's while I had them. What methods of intentionally doing it are you referring to?

[BeepBeep2]

If you rub mhn-e the wrong way they will instadeath no matter who the user is. Gary and raja from Anand had it down to a science and could pop just about any set. My sets popped from intentional, I was comparing to CMG and trying to pop the rev when it came out. Confirmed 2 sets of TRX can pop, confirmed same methods couldn't pop cmg.....

with voltage?

I ran 2.3v into my good hyper set once D9GTS OC profile

[I.nfraR.ed]

Another Adata XPG 1866+ CL8 - MNH-E Hyper

[Barr3l Rid3r]

Another Adata XPG 1866+ CL8 - MNH-E Hyper

http://i.imgur.com/157ZB.jpg

How came a unfixed IC been produced in week 41 of 2009? If new revision sticks became available at week 28? we have MGH-E since week 11 is that alright?

So someone remember the defective batch week range?

[I.nfraR.ed]

I don't know, but I know it's crappy. Took 1.675V just to keep 1600 6-6-6-18-24 1T. Anyway I got it cheap. Could try to flash the SPD with another one and see if it helps them die

[Barr3l Rid3r]

I don't know, but I know it's crappy. Took 1.675V just to keep 1600 6-6-6-18-24 1T. Anyway I got it cheap. Could try to flash the SPD with another one and see if it helps them die

Thats a great idea maybe you can just flash back before they die.

But I don't see any reason for it not beeing fixed. Brands have delays to manufacture the sticks, if the fixed sticks became available in july of 2009, probably the chips used on it was even older. So a chip produced in october certainly should be a fixed one, maybe fixed MNH-E sux.


But if you do flash it, and it works, please post a tutorial on how to do it, don't forget about your bios subtimmings pics if possible.

[CryptiK]

As said, not all MNH-E IC's were defective only certain batches, and most MNH-E actually was a bit stronger at CL7 clocking than the MGH-E. The poorer results seen on those 'low bin' sticks is probably binning (or lack of) alone. I found a DDR3-1333 kit at officeworks that had MNH-E Hypers on it, couldn't even do DDR3-1600 8-8-8-24, so just because it's MNH-E does not mean it will be capable of excellent speed/timings - that's all through binning.