I have two concerns about this design. One would be the shorter lifespan of a pump when compared to a rad. Will it be possible to replace the pump without replacing the whole unit? Number two would be noise, will pump vibrations resonate through the entire rad?
Would there be any issues running one of these with a second MCP355 w/ top?
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This is great idea! Any timeframe for uk shops?
Aslo, what size is the fillport, is it 1/4 so i can mount the rad horisontaly and still fill it?
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would there be any problem using the top opening as the inlet for the rad, and block the one next to the pump outlet?
that way, it should eliminate any "bad" orientation, apart from the up-side-down one.
but i wanna know what thread size is that on the fillport first.
I'm using the 220 rad / res combo. The fill port is not a 1/4 fitting. It is larger. You would need to go to your local hardware store, match the threads of the fillport cap and get some appropriate fittings.
My current rad / res orientation is up-rite (with fill port on top) and bolted to the back of my pc via the rad box. I like the fact I don't need a stand alone reservoir. What I'm liking about the MCR drive approach, is the elimination of a lot of fittings, an internal pump inside the case and the reservoir.
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My only two complaints is 1) I'm a little worried about pump vibration and 2) it takes away half the fun in building a loop. :P Otherwise it looks like a very solid product as far as I can tell.
Very nice Gabe,
Any plans for a 140mm version or one a bit thicker?
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nice product would 1 MCR320-DRIVE be enought for 2 5970 to cool? never tried wc b4 so this would be a great start and easy
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you can use this to go through the pci if you want to use fittings: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/71...BKT-PCI-G.html
Few quick questions...
Any plans to do a 140mm version and/or allow g1/4 mounting for barbs?
Also would it be easy to invert the design for re-tooling? If so could you make 2 mirror opposite versions to allow all mounting possibilities? Just an idle thought .
Do you find any vibration gets transferred to the case when hard mounting the rad via the radbox? I ended up adding two spacers with O rings to the g1/4 male/male connector attaching my pump to my rad to reduce vibration.
And a sneaky one at the end - 140mm radbox planned anytime soon Gabe?
Another brilliant product - really nails the all in one market while stopping the problems associated with upgrading the apogee drive baseplate for each new cpu that comes out. Makes good quality water cooling available to a much wider audience. Far less fear involved with this kind of solution when making the transition from air to water.
I have a feeling this design can be improved significantly with slight modifications...
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is it safe to have it on the top of the case as long as you have the pump side hanging a little lower than the reservoir side? im talking only an inch extra here, not a full 45 degrees or anything.
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there is absolutely no indication that this setup would affect the life of the pump whatsoever.
yes you can replace the pump with any MCP350 or 355 pump. If this is a warranty, then we can replace the pump by simply removing 4 screws. by the way, the warranty is 2 years.
the pump is solidary from the rad. good insulation of the radiator from the chassis is a good idea, such as silicone gaskets, to prevent vibrations from the pump to rattle loose components in the chassis.
if you mean a second pump in series, no objection whatsoever.
UK shops probably in 2 weeks.
the fill-port is: PG11 (edited for earlier typo pg14)
not possible. you would have no circulation in half of the radiator.
but i wanna know what thread size is that on the fillport first.
PG14
sure, in time.
Absolutely
How you are you getting these numbers?
140mm see above
G1/4: it already is compatible.
mirror: will look into it
mounting with radbox: less vibrations with rabox than hardmount to chassis: the plastic radbox acts as a damper - o-ring or rubber washer between the screw heads and the chassis (the ones that that forms the posts to fasten the radbox base) will also further decouple the assembly from the chassis for additional insulation - how did you install your pump to the rad and to a radbox? pic please. just curious.
yes, this is something we will be looking into
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pure speculation. too many unknown variables, which is why i recommended he check out rad reviews. low vs high fan speed could easily make 10 degree difference, a light overclock could make another 10 degrees. based on a load anywhere from 600-800W a 320 rad is probably not enough, i would recommend a second one, or some delta fans and ear plugs.
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