Swiftech unveils MCR Drive Heat Exchangers

[Dude_Person]

To sum up questions about orientation. The lower the pump is, the better.

Upright = good
Upside down = bad
Side with pump at top = bad
Side with pump at bottom = acceptable (partially functional res)
Flat with pump hanging down (Barbs pointing up) = acceptable (non-functional res)
Flat with pump hanging up (Barbs pointing down) = bad

[GregSG]

MCR220-DRIVE-B Dual 120mm heat exchanger (bare, without pump), Black, including 1/2" & 3/8" fittings, and mounting screws $134.95
MCR220-DRIVE Dual 120mm heat exchanger with integrated pump, Black, including 1/2" & 3/8" fittings, and mounting screws $196.95
MCR320-DRIVE-B Triple 120mm heat exchanger (bare, without pump), Black, including 1/2" & 3/8" fittings, and mounting screws $147.95
MCR220-DRIVE Triple 120mm heat exchanger with integrated pump, Black, including 1/2" & 3/8" fittings, and mounting screws $209.95

Review?

[Dude_Person]

Sorry, Double post

[Sadasius]

You know if it came with the bolt on box as well then it will be as easy as 1-2-3. Bolt on the back upright, slap a block on something and run 2 hoses. Fill and bleed...DONE!!!

[dingdong555]

Great product gabe! This will make things so simple!

[gabe]

Just to clarify, dose it come with the pump or is that sold separately?

both

What's the MSRP for these?

Part # Description MSRP
MCR220-DRIVE-B Dual 120mm heat exchanger (bare, without pump), Black, including 1/2" & 3/8" fittings, and mounting screws $134.95

MCR220-DRIVE Dual 120mm heat exchanger with integrated pump, Black, including 1/2" & 3/8" fittings, and mounting screws $196.95

MCR320-DRIVE-B Triple 120mm heat exchanger (bare, without pump), Black, including 1/2" & 3/8" fittings, and mounting screws $147.95

MCR320-DRIVE Triple 120mm heat exchanger with integrated pump, Black, including 1/2" & 3/8" fittings, and mounting screws $209.95

dose this use the same weak design as the stock 35x or dose it have the improvements of the aftermarket tops

Improvements come from:
- considerably shortened and simplified flow path compared to a traditional 4-device loop (think of all the curves, elbows, tubing going from one device to another, etc..)
- 1/2 the number of fittings (4 instead of 8 in a CPU loop) - each fitting induces a measurable pressure drop.
- native ability to run the pump in 1/2" versus 3/8"

You know if it came with the bolt on box as well then it will be as easy as 1-2-3. Bolt on the back upright, slap a block on something and run 2 hoses. Fill and bleed...DONE!!!

this will be an upcoming kit. Stephen literally took less than 10 minutes to assemble the entire kit shown here:

[sirheck]

It should be VERY easy and quick to bleed.

[Sgt.McRuff]

Gabe, your website, when clicking on liquid cooling, cant see res section...

Also, your killing me, I just bought some rads, now I need more?!

[Erdrick1980]

all i can say is.. please don't let it be out of stock when i get it next week..

[CmB]

hmmmm, watercooling has tempted for a long time. This product is the one that will tip the balance, finally :-)

And once stock runs out initailly be sure to make more for me, lool

[CedricFP]

Can the radiators be turned on their side so that the pump outlet is facing downward?

Also, are those G1/4 or 3/8 holes for filling the reservoirs?

This looks like a great product, gabe. Swiftech have never let me down before. In fact, I think that most people get into water cooling via one of the swiftech kits. I still remember mine was with the original Apogee GT as well as a D5 and MCRes + MCR220. Great stuff.

[sirheck]

Mounting horizontally??
Hmm, I have mounted the QP res rads horizontally.
Had to tilt the case a little to completly fill it to
get all of the air out and it works fine, has been
for over a year.

Not sure about this new set up though.
Edit; Probably not. With half of the impeller above the
main water line i forsee it sucking some air.

[Tetrafluorometh]

Flat with pump hanging up (Barbs pointing down) = bad

Thats a problem for a lot of us then! What if we had the case at a slight angle 5mm rasied on the back leaning forwards. It's enough not to notice but enough to allow air to flow up to the bleed surly?

Other idea is we add a barb and some hose with a fill port to the rads own fill port and with the system vertical so bleed is at the higest point we fill till the system has no air at all!

Gabe this fits my bill perfectly due to a complet and utter lack of space and any forward thinkng on my behalf. Just the pump issue all that is holding me back as bottom mount or side aint an option.

How soon till these are in the UK?

Shame it has to be used with 25mm thick fan as a min!

Edit: Oh yeah and is there a plan for a single sized version?

[gabe]

Can the radiators be turned on their side so that the pump outlet is facing downward?

Also, are those G1/4 or 3/8 holes for filling the reservoirs?

This looks like a great product, gabe. Swiftech have never let me down before. In fact, I think that most people get into water cooling via one of the swiftech kits. I still remember mine was with the original Apogee GT as well as a D5 and MCRes + MCR220. Great stuff.

Please guys, read the link below; it explains everything: horizontal, vertical, upside down, on the side, doggy style (), etc..: http://www.swiftnets.com/PRODUCTS/in...VE-english.pdf ... and make sure to read page 2 all the way to the end (for advanced/extreme users)

once you are done reading, let's discuss further.

there is also an illustration on the site:

[gabe]

Shame it has to be used with 25mm thick fan as a min!

Please clarify

[Tetrafluorometh]

Please clarify

http://www.swiftnets.com/assets/imag...nsionsX800.jpg

23mm between the rad to the end of the pump. 20mm Yate Loon would not fit there. So thus being 25mm only

Please guys, read the link below; it explains everything: horizontal, vertical, upside down, on the side, doggy style (), etc..: http://www.swiftnets.com/PRODUCTS/in...VE-english.pdf ... and make sure to read page 2 all the way to the end (for advanced/extreme users)

once you are done reading, let's discuss further.

I see what you have done there but for my aplication of this i have no room at all. I will be able to check fully in the morning but im pretty sure unless i can use 20mm fans it's a no go on the side. Roof is the only way!

Fact what if we added our own T line res into the system and bled the system till air free?

[gabe]

http://www.swiftnets.com/assets/imag...nsionsX800.jpg

23mm between the rad to the end of the pump. 20mm Yate Loon would not fit there. So thus being 25mm only



I see what you have done there but for my aplication of this i have no room at all. I will be able to check fully in the morning but im pretty sure unless i can use 20mm fans it's a no go on the side. Roof is the only way!

Fact what if we added our own T line res into the system and bled the system till air free?

if I understand your configuration, it looks like on the side in lower case compartment with 20mm fans would work; you would need an auxiliary res located higher than the rad for 100% safety (case #4) - use corner brackets to attach rad to bottom of case.

[Tetrafluorometh]

if I understand your configuration, it looks like on the side in lower case compartment with 20mm fans would work; you would need an auxiliary res located higher than the rad for 100% safety (case #4) - use corner brackets to attach rad to bottom of case.

Roof moun or side mount only, nothing else nothing less. I need to check if have the side space for certan with the item thats in place which i will do in the morning.

Have no option for a res higher. I will try for sid but i'd prefer roof mounter personly.

When are they onsale as i can't see them in your store and the UK will be forever in doing anything

[Boogerlad]

Does this bleed faster than the mcres?

[gabe]

Roof moun or side mount only, nothing else nothing less. I need to check if have the side space for certan with the item thats in place which i will do in the morning.

Have no option for a res higher. I will try for sid but i'd prefer roof mounter personly.

When are they onsale as i can't see them in your store and the UK will be forever in doing anything

roof install is only possible with two drive units in the chassis, which is reserved for extreme apps. Looks like side is your only option.

UK reselers should have the units available for purchase from master distributor in a couple of weeks.

[sirheck]

Does this bleed faster than the mcres?

Yeah it should be quick.

[gabe]

Does this bleed faster than the mcres?

please allow me a corny joke..

have you ever seen a horse urinate?

well, that's how it bleeds

Bad joke aside, I am referring here to the default orientation. the pump literally has a built-in reservoir attached above it, so it primes and bleeds instantaneously.

[Tetrafluorometh]

roof install is only possible with two drive units in the chassis, which is reserved for extreme apps. Looks like side is your only option.

UK reselers should have the units available for purchase from master distributor in a couple of weeks.

Umm 2 pumps is going to cost and there is not much in the loop at all to make sense of it! A 120 would be ideal as that can be vertical!

End of Jan 2010 then

What about if the unit was at an angle then, say it was slopping via the bleed side being raised 5mm up.

[Spawn-Inc]

wow, wicked idea gabe!

as far as mounting it could be mounted any way you want (accept upside down for the sake of the pump) you will just have to have the res fill port at the top.

[Rubycon]

Looks like the display adapter would be blocked. Those of us using dual link DVI cables with large ferrites would never be able to connect to the card with that hanging off the back.

How strong is the pump?

Say could someone mount the radiator on the ceiling above a ceiling fan and run the across and down the wall to their PC under the desk?