**Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD7 OC-Tips-Bios-Discussion Thread**

[stasio]

GA-X58A-UD7 - F7b
GA-X58A-UD5 - F6b
GA-X58A-UD3R - F6b

-fix boot with Logitech G19

[PalmeAsus]

GA-X58A-UD7 - F7b
GA-X58A-UD5 - F6b
GA-X58A-UD3R - F6b

thx \o/

changes ?

[lawtq]

-fix boot with Logitech G19 it seems

[Oblique82]

do we know if any other usb peripherals are affected by this?
what exactly did they ened to change to fix the issue?
any other changes to the boot sequence?

we need some documentation on specific changes

EDIT: I note this issue-

http://forums.logitech.com/t5/G-Seri.../427630/page/3

seems that RAZER peripherals might be having some conflicts for some users. I have both razer lycosa keyboard and deathadder mouse. can anyone else shed light on this issue?

[Amurtigress]

PalmeAsus, Oblique82:

My UD 7 seems to go to C1 after turning the rig on for the first time and then start the posting again, stopping at C1 for a moment and then continue into the normal BIOS/boot procedure at BCLK 181.

The initial posting restart is odd, assuming I am not misinterpreting it.

My PSU is a Coba Nitrox 750W. A very nice PSU BTW, basically identical to the Thermaltake Toughpower, but a 230V only version of a German importer.

I'll give it a shot at enabling EuP as soon as I can reboot in 2 hours. ^.^

[dinos22]

C1 is usually related to memory so try re-seating RAM or try different RAM as well
also try playing with VTT and vdimm

[Amurtigress]

Dinos22:

I really wonder if it's a issue at all and not just an oddity.
I am using 3x2 GB of DDR3-1600 CL7 Corsair XMS3 sticks. Running at 1810 MHz 8-8-8-24-2T, 1.66V.

That's fairly moderate and never caused the slightest hint on issues.

[dinos22]

maybe but it seems it works ok so it could be you just not used to the number sequence during post but yeah if it works who cares thats my motto haha

[Oblique82]

the real issue is when it goes back to c1 AFTER displaying the splash screen- ie after the post "beep"

that is th problem- not the nornmal cycling that occurs before the beep.

I have had ti to go c1 for example while its initialising the raid array and listing all the drives right before the OS loads...

[Amurtigress]

Oblique82:

Not sur eif this sheds light on the issue, but I had an oddity with my Lycosa and a Copperhead on my previous ASUS P6T Del. V2.

When plugging both ointo the same pair of USB ports, the Copperhead's motions were interpreted as keystrokes by the BIOS. That's absolutely weird. But I never reported it, since moving one of the devices to another USB pair wasn't a real poroblem. Then again noone ever bothered to fix it...then again the P6T Del. had problems and a BIOS fix for the G15.

Dunno what they are screwing up with keyboards recently.

But Ic an tellt hat much, the Logitech support guy in the G19 thread is quite a loser. DISABLING higher current support is LOL. Idiotic idea...it just means you can draw more juice off the ports but has no influence on the data signals on the other two pins of the USB port, and no influence on the voltage either.

A valid point tho is the possibility that the USB mode recognition for the device (USB 1 or 2) might detect the wrong mode. Very much like SATA 2 devices on some SATA 1 controllers.

[Oblique82]

Oblique82:

DISABLING higher current support is LOL. Idiotic idea...it just means you can draw more juice off the ports but has no influence on the data signals on the other two pins of the USB port, and no influence on the voltage either.

this is a good comment. however its hard to see why the confirmed logitech issue occursed, and more to the point, why do we think only the logitech is affected when others have had issues with razer

[stasio]

-fix boot with Logitech G19 it seems

This new beta BIOS had been announced in post #877:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=877

[Oblique82]

*** relevent update***

I have some significant progress. thankyou to everyone who has contributed so far.

Test: to determine the significance of the following settings on boot stability: EUP enable, usb mouse support disable, usb keyboard support disable, ioh at 1.26

Thankyou to the person above who noticed that high ioh with EUP on is mroe stable than off.

Method: to use relatively low cpu and ram settings to test motherboard boot stability only.

bclk 200
ioh at 1.26
cpu multi 19 (3.8 ghz)
Ram 8-8-8-20 2T x8 multi.
qpi/vtt 1.35
vcore 1.33
cpu pll 1.88
pci-e 1.5
vdimm 1.66

TOGGLE between: [EUP ON and USB keyboard and mouse DISABLED].... AND..... [EUP OFF with USB key and mouse ENABLED]

For each test power on case key pressed, machine allowed to boot to OS, then shutdown from os.

Results:
[EUP ON, mouse and key support off] 18 tests all PASS (successful boot to os and no red screen bios warning)

[EUP OFF, mouse and keyb support on] 5 tests all FAIL ( power on, c1, c1, c1, fans and mobo complete power off... reboot c1, c1, c1 all poiwer off, -> bios warning

conclusions:

this supports the theory that ioh 1.2 or more is consistently unstable during boot when EUP is OFF and mouse and keyboard legacy support is on. further testing is needed and this may reflect a specific hardware compatibility issue. either EUP or legacy keyboard/mouse or both may play a role.

EDIT: i still occasionally get a long lag on the POST 'splash screen'. anyone else have this sometimes?

[PalmeAsus]

*** relevent update***

I have some significant progress. thankyou to everyone who has contributed so far.

Test: to determine the significance of the following settings on boot stability: EUP enable, usb mouse support disable, usb keyboard support disable, ioh at 1.26

Thankyou to the person above who noticed that high ioh with EUP on is mroe stable than off.

Method: to use relatively low cpu and ram settings to test motherboard boot stability only.

bclk 200
ioh at 1.26
cpu multi 19 (3.8 ghz)
Ram 8-8-8-20 2T x8 multi.
qpi/vtt 1.35
vcore 1.33
cpu pll 1.88
pci-e 1.5
vdimm 1.66

TOGGLE between: [EUP ON and USB keyboard and mouse DISABLED].... AND..... [EUP OFF with USB key and mouse ENABLED]

For each test power on case key pressed, machine allowed to boot to OS, then shutdown from os.

Results:
[EUP ON, mouse and key support off] 18 tests all PASS (successful boot to os and no red screen bios warning)

[EUP OFF, mouse and keyb support on] 5 tests all FAIL ( power on, c1, c1, c1, fans and mobo complete power off... reboot c1, c1, c1 all poiwer off, -> bios warning

conclusions:

this supports the theory that ioh 1.2 or more is consistently unstable during boot when EUP is OFF and mouse and keyboard legacy support is on. further testing is needed and this may reflect a specific hardware compatibility issue. either EUP or legacy keyboard/mouse or both may play a role.

EDIT: i still occasionally get a long lag on the POST 'splash screen'. anyone else have this sometimes?

If i have legancy usb storage enabled it sometimes take some time for it to get past the detecting of my external hdds. But with it disabled i dont have slow boot screen. Did you test with EuP enabled and usb keyboard enabled? it work's fine for me. For me EuP is the vital settning to not get this coldboot. with usb keyboard and mouse enable it works just fine as long as EuP is enabled.

Regards

[Oblique82]

thanks- legacy storage is off. it only rarely happens. i do have an ssd tho (vertex)

[PalmeAsus]

thanks- legacy storage is off. it only rarely happens. i do have an ssd tho (vertex)

i use an intel ssd 80 gb g2 i havent noticed the problem tho i dont restart that often when i dont oc :P . But its probably due detection of any usb device you have i guess.

[Intratech]

Anyone pimping the new BIOS? Got any feedback? I'm a bit reluctant to change from the F6x at present.

[PalmeAsus]

Anyone pimping the new BIOS? Got any feedback? I'm a bit reluctant to change from the F6x at present.

using it atm no oc improve atleast not at 24/7 basis tho no degrade either so. Go on try it

[Oblique82]

for those of you on air have you installed that silent heat pipe thing? I havent because appaently it doesnt conduct heat well...

[Oblique82]

palmeasus is that insane overclock of yours running on 4 or 8 cores? what voltages did you need?

[nyeah]

for those of you on air have you installed that silent heat pipe thing? I havent because appaently it doesnt conduct heat well...

installed it and it worked well suppress the temp

[Bodar]

I have a water cooling server but I installed it.. it looks cool.. That's the most important thing..

[sRHunt3r]

I am still having issues getting my 920 to 4.6 with Ht on ..... 4.5 is rock solid with 1.38v and hits low 60's c after an hour or more of linX. Trying to push to 4.6 has resulted in corrupted OS several times on Win7 Pro, I am still using bios F4 as the more recent ones have required more VCore for the same O/C. I have mot tried the latest, but I will this weekend. Here are my settings, can you guys see anything that might help me over the 4.6 hurtle.

4.5 Settings HT on

Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [21]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech ...................... [Enabled]
CPU Cores Enabled .............................. [All]
CPU Multi Threading .............................[Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ........................ [Disabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support ......................... [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ............................ [Disabled]
CPU EIST Function .............................. [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology ...................... [Disabled]
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ......................... [Enabled]

Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Speed ..............................[Auto]
Uncore Frequency ............................[Auto]
Isonchronous Frequency ......................[Auto]

Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control .......................... [Enabled]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) ................................[215]
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........................ [106]

Advanced Clock Control:
CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [800mV]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0]

Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance ...................... [Turbo]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ........... [Disabled] 
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........... [8.0]
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) ............. [Quick]

Channel A + B + C

Channel A Timing Settings:
##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ......................[Auto]
tRCD ..................................[8]
tRP ...................................[8]
tRAS ..................................[8]
CR.....................................[8]
B2B.....................................[20]


Advanced Voltage Control:
CPU Intel Core i7 920 D0 Stepping
Load Line Calibration ................. [Level 2]
CPU Vcore ..............................[1.38125] 
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v .................[1.355]
CPU PLL 1.800v .........................[1.8] 
PCIE 1.500v ...........................[1.54]
QPI PLL 1.100v ........................[1.14]
IOH Core 1.100v .......................[1.28]
ICH I/O 1.500v ........................[1.58]
ICH Core 1.1v .........................[1.2]

DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v .............. [1.64] 
DRAM Termination 0.750v.......... [0.78]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v ...........[0.78]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v ...........[0.78]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v ...........[0.78]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v ........[0.78]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v ........[0.78]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v ........[0.78]

I haven't tried the latest beta bios primarily because it looks to focus on the 980

[nugzo]

I am still having issues getting my 920 to 4.6 with Ht on ..... 4.5 is rock solid with 1.38v and hits low 60's c after an hour or more of linX. Trying to push to 4.6 has resulted in corrupted OS several times on Win7 Pro, I am still using bios F4 as the more recent ones have required more VCore for the same O/C. I have mot tried the latest, but I will this weekend. Here are my settings, can you guys see anything that might help me over the 4.6 hurtle.

4.5 Settings HT on

Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [21]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech ...................... [Enabled]
CPU Cores Enabled .............................. [All]
CPU Multi Threading .............................[Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ........................ [Disabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support ......................... [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ............................ [Disabled]
CPU EIST Function .............................. [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology ...................... [Disabled]
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ......................... [Enabled]

Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Speed ..............................[Auto]
Uncore Frequency ............................[Auto]
Isonchronous Frequency ......................[Auto]

Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control .......................... [Enabled]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) ................................[215]
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........................ [106]

Advanced Clock Control:
CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [800mV]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0]

Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance ...................... [Turbo]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ........... [Disabled] 
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........... [8.0]
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) ............. [Quick]

Channel A + B + C

Channel A Timing Settings:
##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ......................[Auto]
tRCD ..................................[8]
tRP ...................................[8]
tRAS ..................................[8]
CR.....................................[8]
B2B.....................................[20]


Advanced Voltage Control:
CPU Intel Core i7 920 D0 Stepping
Load Line Calibration ................. [Level 2]
CPU Vcore ..............................[1.38125] 
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v .................[1.355]
CPU PLL 1.800v .........................[1.8] 
PCIE 1.500v ...........................[1.54]
QPI PLL 1.100v ........................[1.14]
IOH Core 1.100v .......................[1.28]
ICH I/O 1.500v ........................[1.58]
ICH Core 1.1v .........................[1.2]

DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v .............. [1.64] 
DRAM Termination 0.750v.......... [0.78]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v ...........[0.78]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v ...........[0.78]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v ...........[0.78]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v ........[0.78]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v ........[0.78]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v ........[0.78]

I haven't tried the latest beta bios primarily because it looks to focus on the 980

Sup man. Havent been around here in months. I read your post and saw low 60's 1.8 linx and was like WOW. I see you moved to water now though. Without reading the past months worth of threads, and if i remember correctly, the change to water really didnt get you much more of an OC, just great temps right? I think its about time to go to a 980 and shoot for 4.5. Maybe 24GB of ram too :0 and maybe many new Raptor 600GB in RAID. And a few 480's i wonder how 5 600gb Raptors in RAID5 would perform? Sheesh, All of that would be a $4600 upgrade (980x, 24GB, 5x Rapt 600gb, 2x 480's)

[PalmeAsus]

palmeasus is that insane overclock of yours running on 4 or 8 cores? what voltages did you need?

its on 4 cores so it aint that insane :P i need a vcore on 1.42v for 4.3 ghz HT ON and 1.47 for 4.4 ghz HT On so kinda bad chip actually :P qpi volt is set to 1.53v , dram , 1.64 dramref volts 0.820 , pcie volt 1.6 , ioh 1.18 , cpu pll 1.84 rest on auto