G.Skill ECO PC3-12800 7-8-7 1.35v in the house!

[NEOAethyr]

Do you guys think these would do 8-9-7 cmd1 at 2000, for an amd?
Or would it need something like 7-10-7 timings?

I don't know but I think either way it would ok'sih probably.
I think these are only $60, and if they could match or beat what I got now (8-9-7 at 2000), then I would definitely go for it.

[jalyst]

P67 is the key dude. Its a clear +150mhz with these PSC eco kits compared to earlier chipsets.

I lied on my sticks.....
I undressed them and they are 100% BBSE

Woopsie... well that "throws a spanner in the works"...
So maybe the BBSE ARE just as good as the PSC?
Which IC's are getting the best results nowadays, everyone agree it's still the PSC's?

[PiLsY]

My BBSE kit sucked, but then it sucked on P55 for high mhz too, so its possible ive just got a crappy kit there. It barely did 2000mhz @ 8-9-8 on P55 and had to slam the timings to get 2133mhz prime stable on P67. Something like 9-11-10.

You dont get as much extra on BBSE kits compared to PSC, but if you start off with a great kit anyway then I would imagine theyre at least as good as the PSC kits.

I've not seen a PSC kit yet that wont hit 2200+ at decent timings, whereas people have had issues with BBSE.

Bios updates may help that - its very much manufacturer dependant.

To get the best out your kits the following works pretty well:

For BBSE you only want either Gigabyte or ROG.
For true Hypers you want Gigabyte, foxconn, evga or ROG.
For PSC you want Asus mainstream or asrock.

[BeepBeep2]

Highest bin BBSE would theoretically do about 2000 7-8-7 on P55, while PSC did 6-9-6...
Once up in 2100+ range on P67 I would be they could only pull 8-9-8, and that is like a super binned kit.

PSC should do 7-9-7 there, and beat BBSE.

Do you guys think these would do 8-9-7 cmd1 at 2000, for an amd?
Or would it need something like 7-10-7 timings?

I don't know but I think either way it would ok'sih probably.
I think these are only $60, and if they could match or beat what I got now (8-9-7 at 2000), then I would definitely go for it.

Problems with ECO on AMD, they dont like the 1:4 div. much. Your better bet is the 1600 C6 RipjawsX, last I checked they were $80. They wont be as good as Flare, but if you are lucky you are looking at 7-9-7 to 7-10-7 at 2000.

[NEOAethyr]

Thanks for the heads up .
I'll have to be picky about what I get when the time comes then.

[jalyst]

My BBSE kit sucked, but then it sucked on P55 for high mhz too, so its possible ive just got a crappy kit there. It barely did 2000mhz @ 8-9-8 on P55 and had to slam the timings to get 2133mhz prime stable on P67. Something like 9-11-10.
You dont get as much extra on BBSE kits compared to PSC, but if you start off with a great kit anyway then I would imagine theyre at least as good as the PSC kits.
I've not seen a PSC kit yet that wont hit 2200+ at decent timings, whereas people have had issues with BBSE.
Bios updates may help that - its very much manufacturer dependant.
To get the best out your kits the following works pretty well:
For BBSE you only want either Gigabyte or ROG.
For true Hypers you want Gigabyte, foxconn, evga or ROG.
For PSC you want Asus mainstream or asrock.

Highest bin BBSE would theoretically do about 2000 7-8-7 on P55, while PSC did 6-9-6...
Once up in 2100+ range on P67 I would be they could only pull 8-9-8, and that is like a super binned kit.
PSC should do 7-9-7 there, and beat BBSE.

Awesome thanks guys!
I've got a H57 Asus MB so hopefully I've got PSC's, going to pull the spreaders off v.soon.

[breakfromyou]

Still running this stuff since about the time the first post came around, on my Phenom II X3 720. I finally got it stable at 1600 7-8-7! Stupid memory controller...

I had this stuff running with an i7-860 for a short bit, had it up to 2100 8-9-8. Got a second kit, and it clocked like ass, so I immediately got rid of it for free. I wish I didn't :P

So there are 2 types of IC's for this stuff, PSC and BBSE. Both are pretty decent, but one is better than the other...Which is the newer one? (say, if I bought a new set off Newegg), and what were they a couple years ago? Last time I tried taking heatspreaders off = 1 IC came off almost too easily.

[Olivon]

Havin' fun with this good old kit, 1.65v :



It responds well !

32M is more difficult though

/necro

[K404]

Very nice with 1.65v!!

This thread is 3 1/2 years old. That's awesome

[websmile]

I sent a kit to rma today because it couldn?t do specs - this is not quite as awesome as the result above

[Mungri]

This is 2x2 Gb or 2x4 Gb?

Looks like the same chips as my Geil Ultra Series http://www.geil.com.tw/products/list/id/35

This stuff is good for 1700 6-7-6, 1900-2000 7-8-7, or 8-9-8, and up to 2200 on 9-9-9, but hard to find anymore of them now. It used to be very cheap though.

The problem would be looking for another 2 sticks if I ever swap to a quad channel board with 8 dimm slots, as I want to keep this ram.

[jalyst]

Is this stuff still quite good, even on the latest Motherboards/CPU's?
I thought there'd be far better stuff around nowadays...
Then again, I guess RAM doesn't evolve as dramatically as other silicon.

[Mungri]

This is still good stuff for X58, probably the second best you can get other than 2000 Mhz Cas 6, but I'd think there would be much better available for the newer sockets which can take ram up to 3000+ Mhz.

Just ran a few bandwidth tests on my rig, 30k+

[andressergio]

I booted them on haswell at 2450 8.12.8.24 2T but superpi 32 gets stucked on loop 13

[Mungri]

I cant keep mine 24/7 stable at 1900 though despite zero errors in 32m superpi, dont think its my ram but the IMC. 1866 cas 7 keeps going all day everyday, but limits my CPU overclocks.

It will also boot and run stable at 1600 Mhz 7-7-7 with just 1.43v, but I couldnt get 1600 9-9-9 stable at 1.35.

It does seem to be the same chips, maybe just that Geil didnt bin them for low voltage, but rather for the Cas 9 frequencies.

I wonder if Intel will ever do hex channel boards, would make a good next upgrade and I can keep using this ram.

Also for low voltage settings, I'm currently managing to run mine at 1866 9-9-9-27 at 1.5v and 1.35v QPI, just testing to see if I can get lower CPU temperatures with lower QPI (7-9-7 1866+ needed 1.4-1.45v QPI).

These older chips are great for their voltage scaling, you can set them up however you prefer, low volts and timings, or high volts and tighter timings. No difference to CPU temps with just higher Dram volts so I'll run 8-8-8.

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Ok, In my search for lower QPI volts, I've now got all the following 24/7 stable:

1.35v QPI / 1.51v Dram - 1875 9-9-9-27
1.35v QPI / 1.64v Dram - 1875 8-8-8-24
1.45v QPI / 1.67v Dram - 1875 7-9-7-24 (7-8-7 is only bench stable but Bsods after a while, same with 1900 Mhz).

Dont think I'm going to run 7-9-7 anymore, I knocked 3-4 degrees off my CPU with the lower QPI voltage.