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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveburt714 View Post
    I'm still working on it, but my chip doesn't seem to like high V's at all. I may very well be able to get 4.1, but I'm not sure about 1.5v's...

    my 955 c2 didnt like high volts at all.... my 940 took the volts way better than 955 and actually had a higher validation, but the 955 need less volts to get higher stable clocks (around 1.5v for 3.75ghz on 940 prime stable, 1.48v for 3.85ghz prime stable on 955..) i could barely even bench my 955 over 1.5v let alone try to prime on it
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    Enter The Dragon

    Enter The Ice Dragon...that is...

    Well I started at about 1:30 am and its about to be 7am, after running some other tests and trying a few times to run prime at 4.4ghz but not finishing I went with 4.3ghz for prime 30 minutes. I only bought 2 bags of ice and they lasted about 3 hours. fun but Im tired now lucky Im off today

    Crap I just realized I didnt have cpuz running

    another video, this is prime in progress and my little setup,the first of 4 short videos (about a minute and a half or less each) of my ice slowly melting and prime coming to the 30 minute mark with no ice to spare lol

    part 1



    Im running dual pumps one in the cooler and one in the res.

    Ill post all 3 of the progress videos in my next post later, I need some sleep

    nm Im gonna finish this up now

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    Quote Originally Posted by 64NOMIS View Post
    Nice vid - almost as good as being there
    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oliverda View Post
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    Yeah, I noticed that right away Oliverda, some say the number of the beast but in this case I think it’s just a friendly Dragon.

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    64nomis,

    I am going to try something this weekend, still on water, but hopefully more cold. I am picking up my insulation materials tonight for my board etc. Don't think I'll dethrone Equinox yet, but should net some better results then I have so far.

    "Titan7171... you are getting some nice results to I see, keep it up.

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    Same here 64nomis

    Working on another project that I need to get finished up first, then I move on to this chip

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    64nomis,

    Qusetion, will a 40% mix of water still count as water cooling for this thread? And what if Dry-Ice is being used in an indirect cooling method? Just a thought
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    Quote Originally Posted by charged3800z24 View Post
    64nomis,

    I am going to try something this weekend, still on water, but hopefully more cold. I am picking up my insulation materials tonight for my board etc. Don't think I'll dethrone Equinox yet, but should net some better results then I have so far.

    Equinox, I 'm coming for you haha
    dont make me break out my backups,i have the dry ice idea in the back of my mind also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charged3800z24 View Post
    64nomis,

    Qusetion, will a 40% mix of water still count as water cooling for this thread? And what if Dry-Ice is being used in an indirect cooling method? Just a thought
    H20 = not a solid. Alien brain puree qualifies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckeye View Post
    Same here 64nomis

    Working on another project that I need to get finished up first, then I move on to this chip
    Don't worry, plenty to keep us entertained...

    Hey, why don't we ask ln2cooling to create a sealed water flow cap for the top of the phantom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 64NOMIS View Post
    Don't worry, plenty to keep us entertained...

    Hey, why don't we ask ln2cooling to create a sealed water flow cap for the top of the phantom?
    already working on that idea also. what a water block that would be.
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    Alright, time for me to make a relevant post to this thread. Hopefully there is a booby prize category for self contained daily driver ambient water rigs, not intended to compete in the clean car competition I'd love a golden c2 or c3 sample, or a 5850. Don't force me to try and voltmod my 4850!

    So, I didn't have the best c3 sample, but I worked with what I had, and I had fun and learned some things. And it's faster than my two month old unlockable 550be (one weak core) that's now sitting on my desk. Some of you guys are seriously extreme. Charged suggested I try more extreme cooling, but I'll have to work on my wife for that to happen. Wish me luck!

    Wow, I'm such a forum noob. Let me know if I need to redo the images! Shots are rig, screenshot at 30 min under load in p95 blend, screenshot 5 min after blend ended, and gratuitous shot of my block and rad.

    The water cooling is mostly 5 year old swiftech stuff. Not nearly as complicated as the chiller setups here, but fun to tinker with. I had to make a cpu waterblock adapter from a piece of old computer case, since it was for socket A. It was a bugger to cut the holes for the adapter, since I didn't have a hole saw that small and it was hard to turn a jigsaw with a metal blade virtually in place! I just added the 4 polished aluminum push/pull fans. Of course, they are slightly too big, so I had to drill new holes in the tabs of the rad, directly adjacent to the old. The fans are 2200 rpm adjustable, currently on bust! There are 1200 rpm intake and exhaust fans in the case.

    I could reach 3.9 gig on otherwise stock settings at 1.4875v, but I tried 4 gig at 1.55 and no joy. I tried for a nice balance, so the run in the pics is 3850 @ 1.475v, cpunb is 2750 @ 1.3125v, ram is 1666 c7 1t tight sub (had to go with 250 ref and 1333 divider, no post 1600 c7). Core was 49C at 30 min under load, and dropped to 33.5C 5 min later, with ambient around 23.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grinder View Post
    Alright, time for me to make a relevant post to this thread. Hopefully there is a booby prize category for self contained daily driver ambient water rigs, not intended to compete in the clean car competition I'd love a golden c2 or c3 sample, or a 5850. Don't force me to try and voltmod my 4850!

    So, I didn't have the best sample, but I worked with what I had, and I had fun and learned some things. Some of you guys are seriously extreme.
    Charged suggested I try more extreme cooling, but I'll have to work on my wife for that to happen. Wish me luck!

    Bear with me while I figure out the attachments.
    Just asking, what kind of 3DMark06 score do you get with that setup? (No AA or AF of course)

    I voltmodded mine.

    I'm getting a 965BE C3, and a Gigabyte 790X-UD4P, basically a mirror of your setup in DDR2 form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grinder View Post
    Too late...

    I have the same stepping, just installed last night and played with it briefly. I'll make the best of it, but so far it needs more volts than most (as I've posted in the c3 result thread). To stay on topic, I will update this post in line with 64nomis request when I have more time.

    So far:
    3.7@1.4
    3.8@1.4125
    bumped to 1.45 and not yet stable at 3.9

    It's still better than my (only two month old) 550be!
    Grinder & Lastviking,

    Considering you both have the same pistol...it would be a fair fight.

    I have in my left clenched hand a C3 965. I have in my right a C2 965.

    72 hours. Others with 0942FPMW may join. No questions, see post #1. Grinder obviously has a head start.

    Warning, you might fry your goods.

    To all others and those more fortunate, revel in your time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 64NOMIS View Post
    Grinder & Lastviking,

    Considering you both have the same pistol...it would be a fair fight.

    I have in my left clenched hand a C3 965. I have in my right a C2 965.

    72 hours. Others with 0942FPMW may join. No questions, see post #1. Grinder obviously has a head start.

    Warning, you might fry your goods.

    To all others and those more fortunate, revel in your time!

    were my results ok? I didnt have cpuz up in the video but it completed the 30 minutes of prime. Also would you prefer pictures instead?

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    If not Ill have to do it over in a few days. Let me know, I dont want to be disqualified for not following the instructions

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    Quote Originally Posted by 64NOMIS View Post
    Grinder & Lastviking,

    Considering you both have the same pistol...it would be a fair fight.

    I have in my left clenched hand a C3 965. I have in my right a C2 965.

    72 hours. Others with 0942FPMW may join. No questions, see post #1. Grinder obviously has a head start.

    Warning, you might fry your goods.

    To all others and those more fortunate, revel in your time!
    Thx Simon for giving some good competition! , i will now try to get some screens and more...to bad i work today and tommorow but i have two nights i can try to do it

    Lets do Grinder VS Lastviking VS anothers 0942FPMW fight.

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    Nice!

    Good luck viking! Judging by your number of posts, you have a head start on me in some ways. Lets have some fun!

    BeepBeep2, I'll run the 3dmark06 after I finish with this and find my max stable. I tried it last night, but it didn't make it through. It survived a half hour of blend, and I could play Urban Terror...

    Simon, if we win a cpu do we have to call it Rachael?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 64NOMIS View Post
    H20 = not a solid. Alien brain puree qualifies.
    So, is ice allowed then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by charged3800z24 View Post
    So, is ice allowed then?
    DICE as a pumped fluid coolant yes. DICE in CPU pot is not the intention of this thread.

    We'll do that next weekend

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan7171 View Post
    were my results ok?
    My function today is not to judge. It is to encourage the experiment, provide a proving ground, and do my part in advancing the science.

    Part of what we will learn is the consistency and potential of C3 under a fast but rigorous test. Part of what we will learn is the nuance and protocols necessary to achieve those results. H20 and more generally fluid cooling had been neglected, for my part at least, yet arguably the most relevant since we can run day in and day out under these conditions.

    So far, everyone's work kicksass and I am grateful for it. Thousands of people are looking on, lurking in the shadows. And many more will follow. This is the stage, we are the players.

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    lmao, That's deep. Even Shakespeare gets the treatment in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 64NOMIS View Post
    My function today is not to judge. It is to encourage the experiment, provide a proving ground, and do my part in advancing the science.

    Part of what we will learn is the consistency and potential of C3 under a fast but rigorous test. Part of what we will learn is the nuance and protocols necessary to achieve those results. H20 and more generally fluid cooling had been neglected, for my part at least, yet arguably the most relevant since we can run day in and day out under these conditions.

    So far, everyone's work kicksass and I am grateful for it. Thousands of people are looking on, lurking in the shadows. And many more will follow. This is the stage, we are the players.
    Yep, I've been following this thread for quite a while now and I gotta admit this is a really good job, of both AMD and you, guys. Keep it up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 64NOMIS View Post
    My function today is not to judge. It is to encourage the experiment, provide a proving ground, and do my part in advancing the science.

    Part of what we will learn is the consistency and potential of C3 under a fast but rigorous test. Part of what we will learn is the nuance and protocols necessary to achieve those results. H20 and more generally fluid cooling had been neglected, for my part at least, yet arguably the most relevant since we can run day in and day out under these conditions.

    So far, everyone's work kicksass and I am grateful for it. Thousands of people are looking on, lurking in the shadows. And many more will follow. This is the stage, we are the players.
    What I really meant was if the way I was presenting my results was fine and if the result information was adequate since I had'nt included the cpuz screens as requested. You may be looking for something specific in that info that I may not be including here.
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    I planned to run prime today but the outside temp was still too high, as was trying to run @4.3GHz but the cooling system just couldn’t hold the CPU temp down. I ran prime @4.2GHz earlier but I just wanted more today but like I said Mother Nature just didn’t want to help. Hopefully this coming week will be cooler. I did play with 3D06 though so the day wasn’t wasted.

    The radiator is from a Geo Metro along with the fan (12V which runs fine powered by an old 200W PSU) the cooling system is filled with 50/50 premixed coolant (antifreeze). The processor voltage reads low in AOD and CPU-z though as its 1.57V+ in the bios. Anyway I can’t run with some of you guys right now but maybe when it gets cold here.

    This is the ugly Dragon (short on looks for sure) but it is somewhat functional. The photos bad I know, too much outside light but you can get the idea I hope.



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    Here comes my first try...its abit sad...its winter but no snow outside, and no cold to, about +6c. I did tkae some image with my Ixus to but need to sleep now.. work tommorow.











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    one last try on water with no chiller for prime95
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