GPUGrid is asking for people with ATI 5870s for testing.
This is good news. Hope it works out ok.
GPUGrid is asking for people with ATI 5870s for testing.
This is good news. Hope it works out ok.
Whoa... glad they're already testing stuff for ati!
But that's a strong card to ask for... Hope they still take the 4 series, I have a feeling we have a lot of those around here!
(and I hope the compete point wise!)
WOW im for it and happy they finally got some thing to work with from ati hell its a cheaper to go with a pair of 5870s in cross fire then a pair of gtx 295s
it will be interesting to see where they end up point wise. i cant find anything at all about molecular dynamics or ffts running on ATi cards so i dont know what to expect. i still think nvidia could beat them if they dont have some serious skills at programming. i will still go with a fermi based card. maybe the opencl gpugrid app will work with the gtx 260 192s.Originally Posted by Otis11
It will be nice to have a choice. I hope they can do comparable point wise to nvidia.
folding@home drop the ball on the ati cards they was not able to take advantage of the full streaming processing unit or ati wasn't not sure who to blame. lets hope the gpugrid can get it to work with 1600 streaming then we got some thing good. but i still think the 300 is going to win as far as the points
goes. time will tell.
See the key for me is PPD/$... not necessarily performance strait out.
Anyone trying it so far? Need to get some results!
...Oh bob...
im going to as soon as i can find a 2 5870s in stock ati is my card of choice but for PPD when i was folding Nvidia is the PPD king as for the 4 series i got 2 4850
X2s i would love to get working again.
From what I understand ATI has made improvements in the Stream programing software and that is why gdf is trying them. Not so much new hardware as software. ATI never put the resources behind Stream that nVidia put into CUDA.
now that your refreshing my memories i think i said all ati cared about was getting the gaming crown back a year ago in the folding section thanks poppa for the reminder. I also have trouble remembering but im just not ready to look for a rest home just yet,
Specs have been lowered.
Guess I better dust off my 4850 and put it in a machine!hi,
AMD does not want us to distribute any DLL at the moment, so you must install it yourself. Sorry about that.
YOU NEED:
1) ATI-opencl-beta driver
2) ATI-opencl-sdk stream SDK
from
here
The minimum card is a Radeon 4850. Below this one shared memory is emulated so it is terribly slow.
WU submitted will be very short just for us to get some data.
gdf
Let us know! Can't wait to see how these compare!Specs have been lowered.
Guess I better dust off my 4850 and put it in a machine!
And best of luck - hope they don't cause any problems!
The timing is
I am as setup as I can get until they come help a flunky out. Says I have no Nvidia Gpu...well, uh, yeah....DUH!
These cards are monsters!$300 for ~150K/day on Collatz. Not sure what they will pay on GpuGrid, but it's about advancing the technology!
Gispel is the guy that got ATI going on MW and Collatz....now he's helping GpuGrid!
Collatz WUs:
8800GS--50-60min
260/216 65nm--30min
5850 stock--8.5min
5850 @ 902/1250--6.8min
5850 @ 920/1250--6.5min
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Hope they get this working that well on GPUGrid! That would be intense!
even 100k PPD from a single cards would be incredible!
And for $300... How could I not?
I've received ~2.5x as many points on Collatz as GpuGrid. So, assuming everything stayed the same...it should be worth ~28K/day. However, I'm still trying to determine what this 5850 is worth on Collatz. I doubt it's worth much less than 50k/day, but may turn out to be worth ~80K/day. Just going to take a little waiting to find out.Hope they get this working that well on GPUGrid! That would be intense!
even 100k PPD from a single cards would be incredible!
And for $300... How could I not?
I've moved the OC up to 920/1250...not really pushing too hard too fast, but I've had zero OCing issues so far. That's on air. These babies are going on Chilled water.....
Going to add the new OC into my previous post...
EDITED: To correct bad information....
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I tried the 4850 and all WUs error within 20 secs. gdr has now said 4000 series way too slow and they will not support them. So I guess I will sell it and the GTX 260. Ebay gonna nickel and dime me to death.
my 4850s did the same thing Pops im going to keep them.
the 4850s still play games that i play online and i dont see the point to upgrade them for playing games. now to find a pair of 5870s in stock for the GPUGRID,
The 57xx would be easy to buy, wonder how they will do?
you should be able to run gpugrid with your 4850 when ATi gets an updated openCL driver. the same thing happened with CAL 1.4 earlier this year. you can wait or just buy a 5xxx card. its up to you. basically with out shared memory it would run like ATi on f@h.
that is what worries me about getting a 5870 or even 2, I bought my 4850s for F@H point wise they are not very good.
Pops will tell you the same thing and my 4850s was a full time baby sitting job when i was folding with them. Nvidia is
the way to go for folding.
not sure how they will do i guess we wait and see what a real
WU can do to show us the PPD, right now they are still testing small WUs.
This can't come fast enough!
...Christmas lists anyone?
They're just having a lot of issues atm, PG. I can only recall 1 person getting things going successfully. IIRC, it seemed that everyone else was erroring out. I can't even get the thing to give me some WUs....
Word on the street is= save yourself $100/card and go with the 5850. It's damn near as fast and can be OCed like crazy (with Asus or MSI Bios). I got mine up to 1003/1330 before it started failing.my 4850s did the same thing Pops im going to keep them.
the 4850s still play games that i play online and i dont see the point to upgrade them for playing games. now to find a pair of 5870s in stock for the GPUGRID,
Just a headsup: the 57xx won't run MW. Something to do with the lack of double precision.No sure exactly, but from what I can gather there's a difference in the 57xx series...and it's a reason to avoid the cards.
GDF:
That sounds like a hardware issue to me.....We managed to try on a 4850 and shared memory is still emulated, so the card seems to be quite slow.
It is likely that the only cards where ATI put a good hardware support for shared memory are the new 5000 cards.
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Nice find, PG! I found the 1 I ordered yesterday through an "In Stock" online tip. Was all set to grab one of these, but they are limited to the first 50, and a rep will call to process the payment info.....not really wanting any calls, personally. If I could order and then call them...that would be cool. I'm ok atm, but twitching to possibly get a couple more of these and start selling off my 8800's + water blocks....
I just wanted to add in here that these reference cards are all exactly the same...the only difference in the cards themselves is the sticker. Other then that, it's just brand name, warranty, free game, etc....
And from what I can tell, stock should start trickling in ~Nov. 20th. I would expect these cards to still be flying off the shelves, but in stock availability should start improving around then.....that's a week from now, so not so bad....
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