are 1920x1200 lcds dead?

**zanzabar** · 10-12-2009, 04:21 PM

my crt is dieing so ive been looking for an lcd. affter a tour of local chains and small computer shops it seams that no1 is shipping 1920x1200 consumer grade monitors and the retail chains havnt carried them for months in the stores and the small stores said that they couldent get them anymore.

is there a new panel coming out so they stopped production or is the large monitor dead to be replaced by small tvs with 6bit color

**YukonTrooper** · 10-12-2009, 04:31 PM

The industry shifted towards 1920X1080 because that's the standard for HD content. It's a shame, though, because the extra real estate on 1920X1200 is better for general PC use and gaming.

**[XC] Synthetickiller** · 10-12-2009, 04:51 PM

Its sad. I have two 1920x1200 monitors. I guess we might be forced to go 30" soon? I won't really object if someone produces a better 30" that's not $3000.

**tbone8ty** · 10-12-2009, 05:07 PM

theres 29 for sale at the egg

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...&Order=REVIEWS

**zanzabar** · 10-12-2009, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by tbone8ty

theres 29 for sale at the egg

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...&Order=REVIEWS

newegg is not somewhere that would be immediately effected, they deal directly with the OEMs so if there was going to be no more of them or a slow down in production newegg would have ordered a bunch of them

i really wanted to see a 1920x1200 TN in person i would be ok with an s-ips (especialy a 120hrz s-ips like the 32"+ tvs have but with 1920x1200) but i dont know about a TN. and i had wanted to hold out until 120hrz was out in a good size and resolution but if its dead then i think that i should buy now so im not stuck with a gimped vertical. and i dont see why 1080 would be better for a monitor desktop use would be better and it maps 1:1 with 1080p

**dan7777** · 10-12-2009, 05:39 PM

i think 1920x1200 will still be around for a while to come yet.

**[XC] gomeler** · 10-12-2009, 05:45 PM

1920x1200 isn't going anywhere guys.. I second the notion that we need new 30" panels though. I really want a 30" but the only option is still too expensive. Cheaper to buy two 1920x1200 screens right now

**Da_maniaC** · 10-12-2009, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by dan7777

i think 1920x1200 will still be around for a while to come yet.

I think so too.
If you look at the gaming market for example... a lot of users own a 24 inch monitor that supports 1920x1200. (Not every model does a nice presentation of 1920x1080).
And therefore you will often see developers allowing the option for the rendering of 1920x1200 to keep this segment of the market satisfied.

**zalbard** · 10-13-2009, 03:16 AM

Nah, not really.
Cheap panels are being made for 1080, while more expensive MVA and IPS ones still use 1200.
Makes sense, if you think about their possible applications.

**AndrewZorn** · 10-13-2009, 04:17 AM

everything needs to be less resolution dependent anyway
games should work on 4000x800 just as well as they do on 800x800, the onscreen icons just gravitate to the "corners" or the "middle" etc
its not that hard

i like 16:9 because of movies, black bars on lcd just look bad
but soon i will be getting a dedicated tv
so back to desiring 16:10

**Computurd** · 10-13-2009, 01:29 PM

Alot fo the migration to the new size is because when they make LCD it is much like cpu's and wafers, they cut a big sheet of lcd into smaller ones. The new aspect ratio that they are using allows them to get one extra screen per sheet, thus lowering production costs, yada yada yada.
16:10 is thus officially dead. This time next year they will all be gone. several manufacturers have already signaled this. No to mention the move to the HD format anyways, that just makes the deal even sweeter for manufactureers, kills two birds with one stone.
16:9 is the future!

**Machinus** · 10-13-2009, 11:54 PM

my planar 2611w is awesome, I'd be surprised if you couldn't find those these days.

**punkrockpolak** · 10-18-2009, 06:23 PM

That's too bad that they're doing away with 1920x1200. I used a 1080 monitor and it just seemed akward.

**slim142** · 10-18-2009, 08:47 PM

Im using a 2243SWX 21.5 inches with 1920x1080. I never tried a 1920x1200 but I came from a 19" 1280x1024 so the change for me was really good.

Will definitely look for a screen with at least 1920x1080 once I upgrade to something like a 24" with 120hz.

**Den Leiw** · 10-20-2009, 02:36 AM

I plan to buy a 1920x1200 screen in 2-3 years but I'm not sure if they'll still be around by then

**R31Nismoid** · 10-20-2009, 11:34 AM

Ye im glad i nabbed me 1920x1200 when i did, cant get any around easily these days.

**Rattle** · 10-20-2009, 11:44 AM

1920x1200 FTW

**Neuromancer** · 10-20-2009, 11:47 AM

2650x1600 FTW. Wish LCDs could do that for $400

**lutjens** · 10-21-2009, 01:42 AM

Originally Posted by Neuromancer

2650x1600 FTW. Wish LCDs could do that for $400

+1...after using 2560x1600, using 1920x1200 feels like looking through a peephole...

**SteveLord** · 10-31-2009, 10:09 PM

I'm still a 1680x1050 guy. Through 3 monitors.

**Computurd** · 11-01-2009, 08:48 PM

yea i do 1920X1200x3(screens)

**kamieldehond** · 11-02-2009, 02:21 PM

1920X1200 with 1:1 pixel mapping is the best. good for old games and new movies. to bad all manufacturers are shifting to hd

**Kurz** · 02-23-2010, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by kamieldehond

1920X1200 with 1:1 pixel mapping is the best. good for old games and new movies. to bad all manufacturers are shifting to hd

Funny thing 16:10 is better HD!

**BrokenWall** · 02-24-2010, 02:38 PM

The problem is that the market is driven by un-educated consumers. People see the monitor with 1080P logo in Best Buy, Microcenter, and Frys and they want it because its something they noticed. So since normal 1080P monitors are selling more and more they are being produced more because thats where the money is. I don't like the fact my nice ASUS laptop is stuck with a 1366x768 screen or the Dell 24" I got was 1080P but I couldn't pass up the laptop for $800 that had a C2D and 9800m GS as well as a demo Dell for $110.

If I could afford it I would of bought a nice IPS, but I still have my old VP2030b from Viewsonic when I need older resolutions or true colors.

**Frag Maniac** · 02-24-2010, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by YukonTrooper

It's a shame, though, because the extra real estate on 1920X1200 is better for general PC use and gaming.

Better for gaming, how so?

The way I see it on an LCD display you're typically stuck with native res or one res below that which it scales well to. Both 1920x1200 and 1920x1080 are equal at that. I also don't buy the argument some make that there are more 16:10 res options in games than 16:9.

If anything since all these console ports and GfWLIVE titles had prevailed, there are plenty of 16:9 res options since that's the aspect ratio many of these games are originally built for anymore.

So what you have left is the actual size of the display, where 16:9 wins in offering slightly more peripheral view. The desktop real estate is a lot better argument than gaming, since a 1920x1200 display will show two side by side 8.5"x11" documents perfectly, one of the reasons they originally chose that AR for monitors.

I consider the desktop argument to be a wash however when you consider that 1920x1080 fits movies better, with much smaller or zero blacks bars top and bottom and more peripheral when viewed full screen. This of course is only a factor if you use your display for multi use, but many now do.

I don't mind seeing 1920x1080 monitors being made, I just wish lousy 6 bit TNs weren't the only panel type they came in. There was talk of an Apple and/or LG 23" e-IPS display that would be 1920x1080, but AFAIK such a thing has yet to hit the market.

There's only a few 1920x1080 non TN I know. One is NEC's EA231WMI 23" e-IPS, but it has 14ms response and NECs are not know for low input lag. The others by Samsung and Viewsonic have similar problems.

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