Chilly1 Discussion

[JAWS]

People like you Reggie make me sick! I swear to Christ himself, If I were to become instantly wealthy I would pay back the people you cheated before I would pay off my own debt.

Have $400,000 debt? You want people to feel sorry for you? I feel sorry almost everyday for the people you stole money from!!!!!!!

ps also If I had $1 for every time I heard yo say "I am working 12 to 14 hrs a day 6 days a week" I would have enough to pay a single person his money back.

[Praz]

^^^ ^^^

[Ashraf]

I feel exactly the same way as JAWS.

What I have to say is keep excuses to yourself, chilly1. You are not getting out of debt at anytime if you are not going to repay the people you owed first. The more you post about the blahs, the sooner I want to leave XtremeSystems.

I really can't believe how some people like chilly1 have the nerve to take and spend a client's money on something else for personal use or issues.

[lior307]

About Reggie:
I'm sorry for all the troubles that people had But ,
He is A GOOD MAN , and sometime bad things happens to Good People- and he is - a good man.

I beliive that he will solve all his issues with you guys .

I bought from him parts for Phase
He helped me a lot with everything i needed for - even before i bought.
he also gave me his Personal Number and we talked about 3-4 times
And he always share his knoledge .

I Will buy from him again , Glad he is coming back .
I live about 5000KM from him (Eu) , belive me i'm not bribed

[EnJoY]

I Will buy from him again

In that case I should give you Justin Daves number, he has some graphics cards and cpu's he can sell you at a great price!

[perkam]

pay your debts instead focusing on new projects...just my 2 cents...

Allow me to educate you on some fundamental mathematics:

Let's say:

Paying You Guys = A
Focusing on New Projects = B

To Pay your Debts, Chilly1 needs money, lets call this C. So A = C.

Now to get money, he can do one of five things:

1. Find a money tree
2. Make money
3. Win the lottery
4. Find an oil pipeline
5. Get a job as a Web Programmer in war torn Iraq (Seriously, they pay you like 240K its crazy)

ANYWAY, the point is, the most realistic option from the above is option 2, so C = Make more money.

In order to make more money, he needs to build more units, and thus focus on more projects, so C = building more units and getting more projects, which also happens to be B

So C = B, and what do we have here? A = C also !!!

A = C
B = C

Then that means ?!?! A = B !!!!

So you see, him doing new projects = Paying your guys faster.

See there? Wasn't so difficult to understand was it

(Sidenote: The involvement of Mods and Admins in bashing Chilly will only encourage regular members to inflame the thread even further. It doesn't set a very good example)

Perkam

[K404]

This is all different kinds of nothing to do with me but im on the fence about your comment Perkam.

Given Reggies situation and current reputation, who would be willing to give him that much money that he has a decent profit margin in order to help pay back the money he owes?

I believe that his knowledge of HVAC/R will play a large part in any chance he has of paying off his debts, but not as an individual. As part of a company IMHO will be a better and more re-assuring way.... even if its not such easy money.


Im aware this has nothing to do with me. If mods feel this post is better off deleted, thats cool- you'll get no whining from me

[JAWS]

(Sidenote: The involvement of Mods and Admins in bashing Chilly will only encourage regular members to inflame the thread even further. It doesn't set a very good example)

Sorry Perkam you know I love ya.....but

do you think I give a flying about who flames reggie? It's an insult to XS that he even posted again. Tell me something?????? How can you work 12 to 14 hrs a day 6 days a week for 5 years and not have any money?

WHEN EVERY SINGLE MEMBER HAS GOTTEN THEIR MONEY BACK then you come to XS and post about your new whatever.

you know something else let's support someone that stole thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars from XS members that trusted him.

sorry just that way I have always felt about this horrible situation.

ps....and that's the nice version after re-reading your post.

[[XC] riptide]

Allow me to educate you on some fundamental mathematics:

LOL. Here's more mathematics. He claims he's working all the days he can and he hasn't money to pay back anyone in how many years? Where the , mathematically, is he going to pull the extra time to do these projects to generate tens of thousands of extra???

I love ya too Perkam BTW. :hug:

[Ashraf]

perkam, you cannot be serious...

If he can afford to build units to make money, then where the heck do he get those materials from? Nothing is free. I would say he should repay his ex-customers instead of buying materials to build units. I do not think there would be the same amount of ex-customers to buy a new unit from him ever again. That means he would not be able to repay all his ex-customers.

[perkam]

My main point with the sidenote was that no one ever got what they wanted faster by being angry about it. I do believe the best way moving forward is to figure out some sort of payment plan so that he can pay you guys X amount every month until the debt is paid.

Remember, that if every person who has been wronged by Chilly1 asks for their entire amount upfront, there is no way he will be able to pay back the rest of you. There are definitely more constructive ways of going about this problem, and this isnt one of them. Albiet, it does allow members to relieve some of their anger on the issue and if that is the purpose of the thread, then by all means continue

:hugs: All around

Perkam

[[XC] Oj101]

Ok guys, I think that's enough. This thread has turned into a "bash Reggie without consequence thread" and as a fellow human being I think he does deserve a tiny bit of respect. You guys are behaving like pack animals! He's not a serial murderer or a rapist or something, at the very worst you can call him a common thief. I don't think that's enough to warrant the blood you guys want. Everytime there's a chilly1 thread maturity and compassion go out the window

I think it's time to lock, delete or clean this thread. I highly doubt he's going to reply here after the way you guys have carried on so this is a dead thread.

[Speederlander]

Ok guys, I think that's enough. This thread has turned into a "bash Reggie without consequence thread" and as a fellow human being I think he does deserve a tiny bit of respect. You guys are behaving like pack animals! He's not a serial murderer or a rapist or something, at the very worst you can call him a common thief. I don't think that's enough to warrant the blood you guys want. Everytime there's a chilly1 thread maturity and compassion go out the window

Just curiously, what is expected to happen when you post in the same place as everyone you ripped off with no real plan to pay them back? I'm not part of this whole soap opera, but as a member of XS I'm at a loss to understand how he retains his membership and ability to post given everything that has gone down. I see no effort to return the money that was taken (correct me if I'm wrong), so saying he needs to be able to "communicate" with people seems a bit off. I recall a collection to help him "get back on his feet"? Where did that money go?

Aren't scammers banned? Or what's the policy? Not sure why this wound is allowed to have the scab picked over and over again. It's fairly obvious no one is getting their money back in this mess.

Make a sticky with the key info, lock it, encourage people to seek legal recourse (maybe reference existing case numbers and police phone numbers), don't allow further threads on the topic, and ban the person who did the scamming.

[[XC] Oj101]

As much as it would pain me to see someone with his knowledge and past legacy banned from these forums I have to say that I would prefer your idea to this senseless bashing. I don't know about the rest of you but if I were Reggie I'd be less than willing to post in this thread so it's really going nowhere. The rules should apply everywhere, about a year ago I bashed someone from another forum who isn't even registered here and my post was immediately removed, why should this be allowed to continue? If you can make an exception here, why not somewhere else? Where do you draw the line? No more chilly1 bashing please, it doesn't look good to non members and new members when they see the anarchy that rules in this thread. Equality for all or abolish the rules regarding personal attacks.

As an individual I can sympathise with your loss and feelings, but as a forum we have a degree of status to maintain. His contact details are out there, there are also people with direct contact with him. Rather communicate in private than put the forums in the public eye.

[Speederlander]

As much as it would pain me to see someone with his knowledge and past legacy banned from these forums I have to say that I would prefer your idea to this senseless bashing. I don't know about the rest of you but if I were Reggie I'd be less than willing to post in this thread so it's really going nowhere. The rules should apply everywhere, about a year ago I bashed someone from another forum who isn't even registered here and my post was immediately removed, why should this be allowed to continue? If you can make an exception here, why not somewhere else? Where do you draw the line? No more chilly1 bashing please, it doesn't look good to non members and new members when they see the anarchy that rules in this thread. Equality for all or abolish the rules regarding personal attacks.

As an individual I can sympathise with your loss and feelings, but as a forum we have a degree of status to maintain. His contact details are out there, there are also people with direct contact with him. Rather communicate in private than put the forums in the public eye.

Don't get me wrong. I could care less if he gets bashed. Indeed, I say post his home address and phone number in the information sticky along with police case numbers and contact info. He stole thousands and thousands of dollars from a lot of people and then to add insult to injury, a collection was taken up on XS to help him "in his time of need". So, honestly, the entire community was pretty much spit on.

What I am saying is this stuff is all fairly pointless. He ripped everyone off, he appears to have gotten away with it, and urging people to legal recourse hasn't yielded much. So ban him, make a sticky with all the info, and close the door on this sorry chapter at XS.

[eBoy0]

Technically its not bashing, this Builder/Customer Relations subforum was made for this very reason. To write about how you feel about the builder and his work...
Seeing as how ALOT of people have done business with reggie, everyone has an equal chance for an input on the matter... though as mentioned, its like putting salt in a wound, this is getting old...

[Reznik Akime]

Is all this flaming really necessary? People have been banned for less and most for offenses I've seen in this thread. Why is he still able to post here? If the admins are getting in on it, then that should be the end of it all right there. I know what he did. I even considered buying a system from him waaayyy back when. I'm glad I didn't. What I don't understand is why he's able to stay around.

Don't get me wrong. I could care less if he gets bashed. Indeed, I say post his home address and phone number in the information sticky along with police case numbers and contact info. He stole thousands and thousands of dollars from a lot of people and then to add insult to injury, a collection was taken up on XS to help him "in his time of need". So, honestly, the entire community was pretty much spit on.

What I am saying is this stuff is all fairly pointless. He ripped everyone off, he appears to have gotten away with it, and urging people to legal recourse hasn't yielded much. So ban him, make a sticky with all the info, and close the door on this sorry chapter at XS.

This.

[runmc]

Is all this flaming really necessary? People have been banned for less and most for offenses I've seen in this thread. Why is he still able to post here? If the admins are getting in on it, then that should be the end of it all right there. I know what he did. I even considered buying a system from him waaayyy back when. I'm glad I didn't. What I don't understand is why he's able to stay around.



This.

He's own almost half of XtremeSystems.

[Reznik Akime]

I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything but do you mean own or owned?

He may be/has been an owner, but everyone still has so much malice for him. Even the staff. Either way I understand now. Shame.

[[XC] Oj101]

Owns. Reggie and Charles own the site together.

[[XC] riptide]

He's own almost half of XtremeSystems.

Ban vote for spelling and grammar.

[[XC] Oj101]

Watch out, as admin he can ban YOU

[[XC] riptide]

Watch out, as admin he can ban YOU

Oh ya. Forgot that bit. Although if he does, I have an uncle in DeSoto I haven't visited since he moved there.

[tiborrr]

Reggie should sell his share in XS to Charles and then Charles could repay the frauded customers.

[[XC] Oj101]

Assuming that

a) Reggie's shares are worth a hell of a lot of money, and
b) Charles has a hell of a lot of money to play with.