I love how people are expecting 3x performance, only to disappoint themselves and call the card crap when the card releases, just like the 5800 release.
Keep on it guys!
I love how people are expecting 3x performance, only to disappoint themselves and call the card crap when the card releases, just like the 5800 release.
Keep on it guys!
Well, we're not severely depressed or overly pessimistic. Theres a difference, I believe it HAS to compete with the 5870x2 or it fails. Its not a hope, but a must for nvidia.
And it doesn't have to be 3x as powerful.... it has to be about 130 - 140% as powerful... which, the 8800gtx did in several benchmarks.... so it is POSSIBLE.
There are reports of a gx2 already being worked on.Originally Posted by orangekiwii
I dont think it needs to be that much more powerful. A nice 20% over 5870 and they will retain their 66/33 marketshare.
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So the 5870 doubles the 4870/4890 and upps the clock, nVidia with goes a bit higher than doubling, both look to offer far superior performance per watt than last gen.
Looks like win, lets get some reviews and prices!
Looks good, now lets see it in action!
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are there any threads on XS anymore that arent packed with speculation and rumor? where are the facts guys?
Both GT300 threads have press release info from Nvidia...
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I just posted a link to direct quotes from nV regarding Furmi in the other GT300 spec thread. It is the most concrete thing we have so far.
Perhaps we should get one big GT300 thread instead of three small ones like with ATI 58x0, this is getting silly... Ashraf?
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OK the specs surely exceeded my expectations. 100~120% increase over GTX 285 seems like an easy task, of course if everything scaled linearly it would be way faster but that's where the prob lies so yea 100~120% or so sounds like a reasonable figure I think.
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Lets have a unified thread,be much easier only having to check one!
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Yes and people should learn to post in the existing threads, we don't need a new thread for every new news concerning the same things and especially not all these rumored news that's slipped lately.
We really only needed "The GT300 thread" like ATI had it's own instead of "[Charlie] yields are poor", [FUD] Chip is fine! etc. Since there's nothing to really discuss in those threads they only increase spam and offtopicness and fanboy wars. So I suggest a mod could merge all the recent GT300 threads into one, thanks.
So think about this for future launches of CPUs, GPUs, Sockets etc.
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my interpretation from skimming over this:
CUDA is getting a severe upgrade and will pwn alot
ECC ram is going to let us see a nice flavor of their GPU specifically for processing farms.
Nvidia is supporting developers very nicely
good read, and definitely a must read before posting in this thread
in regard to the spam of threads, the new merged topic needs an OP with links to individual news posts... trying to find the actual news in the ATi HD5XXX thread was like looking for a needle in a haystack. fan boy wars on this topic is inevitable ..
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I thought we learned that doubling doesn't always = double performance? Didn't the 5870 prove this? The 5870 is still a great card no doubt, but you need to not over hype the card or you'll be disappointed.
Key to happiness in the tech world = low expectations.
The thing with 5870 to 4870 in terms of specs is, well yes, the physical specs were double but the architecture comparatively changed "little" from the rv770 arch. There were changes... but not very massive ones...
In gtx380, its MORE than a physical doubling of specs.... double the transistor count (3 billion) and an ENTIRELY new core which apparently makes better use of the transistors available (atleast in gpgpu applications).
All in all I expect gtx380 to be 120% of gtx280 @ about 500$
Is this likely? I do not know. But this is what it would take for it to be good in my eyes (would be better if it had more performance, or lower cost, or both)
I think it will equal GTX280 sli, just how a 5870 = 48701GB crossfire. SO yes it will be faster than a 5870, and probably almost the speed of 5850 crossfire.
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If we followed this, alot of us techies would be a new videocard, new processor every generation.
Being disappointed is what stops people from upgrading when they can afford to.
A card matching crossfired 5850 would kill the need for 5870x2 because people want single card performance way more, so much they are easily willing to take a 10-15 % percent hit.
I think it should be 20-30 percent faster than gtx 285 SLI, since there are about 6% more shaders than just double, likely higher shaders speeds(from rumors 10-15%), and just changes to the new architecture + the memory bandwidth being close to double.
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Seeing as how Nvidia doesn't even have set clocks, I don't think you can claim any performance increase at all, much less dismiss any dual card issues seeing as how heat and power consumption on something that large/transistor dense may be an issue all in itself
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