Nvidia doesn’t plan new AMD chipsets

[god_43]

No point

It is not only that Nvidia canceled its DMI chipset projects and won’t have its Lynnfield, Nehalem refresh chipset, it doesn’t want even to make a new AMD chipset.


Mr. Drew Henry has explained us that since AMD's CPU business is doing so badly and since its market shrunk so much, it is simply not economically viable for Nvidia to continue developing chipsets for AMD. They simply cannot make enough money.

Nvidia will continue making ION chipsets and Ion 2 is well under development as there is a lot of financial sense for Nvidia as they can make good buck on this chipset. The only obstacle is Intel who doesn’t want this chipset around, but Nvidia has decided to fight Intel on this one, and has HP and Lenovo supporting ION in its netbooks.

As for AMD, 2010 will be a tough year for selling their own CPUs.

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15852/1/


hmmm maybe charlie had some truth to his German madness?

[Jamesrt2004]

lol after they renamed the chipset how many times aswell?

how will amd sturggle to sell cpus in 2010 ? lol there best for the lower end of the market.. oh yeah where the money is made (exluding server market)

[informal]

lol after they renamed the chipset how many times aswell?

how will amd sturggle to sell cpus in 2010 ? lol there best for the lower end of the market.. oh yeah where the money is made (exluding server market)

Yeah Nv's spin masters are trying to make it look like there is no market for them,when in fact there is a vast market but they have no money to invest in new HT3.1 ready chipsets. Plus AMD is hammering them badly in GPU business with smarter GPU design strategy that it's not even funny any more. Who would want to pay a premium for SLI enabled board when they can slide in dual RV870 card in their cheap 785G boards that will even support hex core desktop parts(enough power even for most demanding desktop users).Looks like they won't even try the rename game with their ancient chipsets,buyers are not THAT stupid to swallow yet another rename.

[[XC] gomeler]

There isn't any market for NVIDIA on AMD's desktop platform due to the success of AMD's chipset platform. Who wants an NVIDIA chipset when they can get an AMD chipset with AOD support and incredibly low power consumption?

[Power5]

Sounds like Nvidia is giving up on the desktop market for chipsets. Not needed if SLI can be run on any motherboard using lucid I guess. So they are going to focus on mobile maybe? Much more growth potential than desktops I bet.

[Particle]

AMD (or ATI, specifically) really has nVidia beat on chipsets for the AMD platform and have since the arrival of the 700-series. With AMD releasing their new server chipsets last month, there's not much room for nVidia. Besides, nVidia hadn't designed a new AMD chipset in many years. Their latest server chipset was the MCP55 which was just a new name for the nForce Professional 3600 which seems to have been designed in 2004. Let's face it. It's not like nVidia was exactly innovating in this field to begin with. It sounds more like they decided enough was enough and it was time to officially can the division after five years of no new designs. Time had obsoleted their offerings. The only reason they were still in use was due to no contenders/alternatives to speak of. That changed late last month.

[Eson]

So, will people stop buying Nvidia GPUs or AMD platforms because they can't use SLI?

[Manicdan]

There isn't any market for NVIDIA on AMD's desktop platform due to the success of AMD's chipset platform. Who wants an NVIDIA chipset when they can get an AMD chipset with AOD support and incredibly low power consumption?

+1, but we cannot ignore that Nvidia had some of the best chipsets ever.

[zalbard]

There isn't any market for NVIDIA on AMD's desktop platform due to the success of AMD's chipset platform. Who wants an NVIDIA chipset when they can get an AMD chipset with AOD support and incredibly low power consumption?

Exactly.
Nvidia chipsets were only good for... SLI?
And some decent memory controllers, but these moved onto CPUs, so...

[Particle]

You may be being a little generous. I haven't seen much reason to give serious consideration to an nVidia chipset after the nForce3/4 era. In later years, I've actively avoided the nVidia chipsets since they use so much more power without any benefits. They also come with those horribly unstable nVidia NICs.

[annihilat0r]

680i = my worst motherboard experience EVER.

[Particle]

680i = my worst motherboard experience EVER.

You ever run into the SATA issue with NCQ being enabled causing random data corruption?

[saaya]

lol, nvidia chipsets are dead, didnt you guys hear the news a couple of months back?

1. they were heavily underfunded to begin with
2. they didnt have enough manpower
3. stability and quality control problems with 5, 6, and 7 series
4. intel moves the igp into the cpu package and basically blocks igp chipsets, amd is going to do the same soon
5. performance of their igp chips is the same as amds igp chipsets or worse, but amd bundles their chipsets for low prices with their cpus, so they cant compete...

the only thing they have now is ion, and ion is a gpu with a memory controller that can use conventional ddr2... many gpus can do that... and it has usb ports and sata ports slapped onto it... thats it...

making an official pr statement like this, publically pssing on amds leg... thats one of the reasons nobody in the industry really likes nvidia and wants to work with them... and its not exactly a smart move considering their x86 problems in the long term future... they majorly pssed off intel and now they poke amd as well... really smart move

[Smartidiot89]

Ok fine, I don't care about Nvidia chipsets since AMDs are as good as can be pretty much. But how about OFFICIAL SLI support? :/

[saaya]

Ok fine, I don't care about Nvidia chipsets since AMDs are as good as can be pretty much. But how about OFFICIAL SLI support? :/

yeh, i dont get why nvidia doesnt do the same thing for amd chipsets, they need extra cash right now, they dont plan an amd chipset... its really really stupid not to sell sli licenses for amd systems in such a situation...

[mk_dir]

Seems like Nvidia are really focusing on ION/Tegra & GPGPU tech.

Although nowdays Nvidia chipsets presence is poor, they had a really good chipset products in the past, Nforce 2 for example...

[Calmatory]

EPOX 8RDA3+ was a great example of Nforce2... ...until the IDE controller broke and corrupted 120 GB of storage overnight. Oh man, that + Duron to Athlon mods. Oh the memories. :drool:

[Glow9]

Seems like Nvidia are really focusing on ION/Tegra & GPGPU tech.

Although nowdays Nvidia chipsets presence is poor, they had a really good chipset products in the past, Nforce 2 for example...

nforce 2 was awesome. It looks like Nvidia is heading towards becoming the new via, maybe they should buy them out seems like it would be smart. I was a huge supporter of nforce chipsets, I built 4 rigs with them for myself and after 650i wow.. Left a real bad taste in my mouth then I switched to a P35 board I never once thought I'd ever like a intel chipset and it blew me away. I'm also surprised AMD's own chipsets are doing so well can't say I see where Nvidia is going with anything besides SLI licenses.

[Vinas]

yeh, i dont get why nvidia doesnt do the same thing for amd chipsets, they need extra cash right now, they dont plan an amd chipset... its really really stupid not to sell sli licenses for amd systems in such a situation...

Insert argument for hydra here. _____________________________________

So the bigger question is; does nVidia now realize SLI may be obsoleted by Hydra? Do they know something we don't know about Hydra specifically?

I think there is hidden meaning here.

[fellix_bg]

NV peaked its core logic business during the nF2~nF4 era (incl. the nFPro series for the server market), where actually they were able to shift and influence the market share balance between AMD and Intel in the desktop area. Of course, lack of innovation and unmerited arrogance doesn't to good to anyone. They just overestimated their own success and the future prospects of the industry.

[VoodooProphetII]

Insert argument for hydra here. _____________________________________

So the bigger question is; does nVidia now realize SLI may be obsoleted by Hydra? Do they know something we don't know about Hydra specifically?

I think there is hidden meaning here.

Well said... Thank you very much, cause I've been thinking the exact same thing.

[mk_dir]

Yeah since Nforce 4 (and variations, except the Intel ones maybe) things went worst and worst. I don't think that SLi support be the main problem, AMD an Intel offer their own chipset product lines, the competence is hard and Nvidia is now surrounded, Via suffered a very similar situation in the past....

[uOpt]

NVidia only got into the mainboard chipset business when AMD left the door open. AMD was too lazy to make K8 chipsets for the non-SMP/unregistered RAM boards. ATI before the AMD takeover only did mainboard chipsets very half-hearted. Via placed it's K8 chipsets in the el-cheapo market, just not going the last step to either performance or I/O heavy chipsets.

NVidia then made good money out of equipping most single-socket K8 computers in the world, subsequently gaining a foothold in the SMP K8 business and also in the Intel market because of reuse of components that were developed with the K8 cash-cow.

The chipsets never were that great (just the northbridge fan requirement is a huge problem) and NVidia never really drove the drivers to a level where they were up to -say- Intel standards. The onboard GbE gives me trouble under windows to this day, whereas the same multi-boot computer with both the reverse-engineered NVida GbE driver in Linux works fine and so does the FreeBSD driver that came god knows where. If you download today's NVforce4 package from nvidia.com you don't even get the GbE install offered, although the older packages do, as does the mainboard vendor's package. NVidia seem to not even get the driver packaging right. The lack of AHCI, and even more the lack of information on exactly which chipsets supported AHCI, was also a problem for NForce in the professional sector.

Now AMD has kicked ATI's mainboard chipset business in full gear, and that means for the mainstream platforms. So the cash-cow that sponsored the other developments gets slimmer.

I can't say that NVidia's chipsets were too horrible overall, but a major reason why I could live with them is that the Linux guys made better drivers than NVidia's windows people and that I spent most of that time using P-ATA storage.

[eleeter]

Is Nvidia trying to alienate the entire industry? Instead of a press release that just states they are no longer pursuing AMD chipsets, they have to take a swipe at AMD instead.

What a bunch of arrogant a-holes.

[terrace215]

how will amd sturggle to sell cpus in 2010 ? lol there best for the lower end of the market.. oh yeah where the money is made (exluding server market)

If by "where the money is made" you mean profits, as opposed to revenues, then I'm not sure the lower end is where it is at. Besides, in 2010, AMD has it tough against 32nm westmere all over the mainstream desktop/laptop markets.