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    Talking 6GB Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD [lots of screenshots]

    Received a new triple channel memory kit from folks at Gskill - 6GB Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD. The Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD is supposedly using Elpida BBSE memory ICs, while not as capable as Elpida Hyper 50mm ICs for >DDR3-2000Mhz 7-8-7-x speeds, they still hold their own for looser timings.

    I'll post my preliminary results here in preparation for a larger triple channel memory kit comparison review in the works





    System:


    First hour using this kit and managed an overclock on these for 8x 32M Pi @DDR3-2124Mhz 9-9-9-24 1T at 1.72v. Asus P6T6 WS Revolution bios sets latencies pretty tight so good pi performance even for Win7 OS

    Both 8x 32M Pi and single 32M Pi runs done in same windows session.





    Shows promise, so now to let this memory kit get to know my Xeon W3540 + Asus P6T6 WS Revolution pairing
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    Timings and CMD Rate comparison


    Some preliminary memory tests for new 6GB Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD triple channel memory kit in preparation for a larger triple channel memory kit comparison review in the works

    • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 99924 2T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.47500v
    • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 99924 1T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v
    • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 89824 2T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v
    • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 89824 1T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v
    • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 79721 2T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.48750v
    • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 79721 1T tRFC 88 1.72v 1.50000v
    • 20x200bclk : 1600Mhz 67618 2T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.37500v
    • 20x200bclk : 1600Mhz 67618 1T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.37500v
    • 23x175bclk : 2100Mhz 99924 2T tRFC 98 1.70v 1.55000v
    • 23x175bclk : 2100Mhz 99924 1T tRFC 98 1.72v 1.55000v
    • 23x175bclk : 2100Mhz 89824 2T tRFC 98 1.72v 1.55000v
    • 23x175bclk : 2100Mhz 89824 1T tRFC 98 1.72v 1.55000v







    DDR3-2000Mhz 9-9-9-24
    2T vs 1T

    Gskill Trident DDR3-2000Mhz kit is rated for 9-9-9-24 2T timings, so to start with testing the difference between 2T vs 1T.

    System:


    DDR3-2000Mhz 9-9-9-24 2T


    CMD Rate = 2T
    VDIMM = 1.66v
    QPI/DRAM = 1.475v

    Super Pi 32M


    Hyper Pi 8x 32M


    Everest


    Linx v0.6.2 All memory test 3x run

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    DDR3-2000Mhz 9-9-9-24 1T

    Need to bump QPI/DRAM uncore volts a tad for 1T.

    CMD Rate = 1T
    VDIMM = 1.66v
    QPI/DRAM = 1.48125v

    Super Pi 32M


    Hyper Pi 8x 32M


    Everest


    Linx v0.6.2 All memory test 3x run

    Load



    Complete

    Last edited by eva2000; 10-01-2009 at 01:36 AM.

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    DDR3-2000Mhz 8-9-8-24
    2T vs 1T

    Now to tighten the timings @DDR3-2000Mhz 8-9-8-24 and test 2T vs 1T CMD Rate at same 1.66v vdimm and 1.48125v QPI/DRAM uncore voltage.

    System:


    DDR3-2000Mhz 8-9-8-24 2T


    CMD Rate = 2T
    VDIMM = 1.66v
    QPI/DRAM = 1.48125v

    Super Pi 32M


    Hyper Pi 8x 32M


    Everest


    Linx v0.6.2 All memory test 3x run

    Load



    Complete



    DDR3-2000Mhz 8-9-8-24 1T

    Need to bump QPI/DRAM uncore volts a tad for 1T.

    CMD Rate = 1T
    VDIMM = 1.66v
    QPI/DRAM = 1.48125v

    Super Pi 32M


    Hyper Pi 8x 32M


    Everest


    Linx v0.6.2 All memory test 3x run

    Load



    Complete


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    DDR3-2000Mhz 7-9-7-21 tRFC = 88
    2T vs 1T

    Further tightening of timings @DDR3-2000Mhz 7-9-7-21 with tRFC = 88 and test 2T vs 1T CMD Rate at same 1.66v vdimm and 1.4875v QPI/DRAM uncore voltage for 2T and 1.72v and 1.5v QPI/DRAM uncore voltage for 1T.

    System:


    DDR3-2000Mhz 7-9-7-21 2T


    CMD Rate = 2T
    tRFC = 88
    VDIMM = 1.66v
    QPI/DRAM = 1.4875v

    Super Pi 32M


    Hyper Pi 8x 32M


    Everest


    Linx v0.6.2 All memory test 3x run

    Load



    Complete



    DDR3-2000Mhz 7-9-7-21 1T

    Need to bump QPI/DRAM uncore volts a bit but vdimm alot for 1T to pass Hyper Pi 8x 32M Pi test!.

    CMD Rate = 1T
    tRFC = 88
    VDIMM = 1.72v
    QPI/DRAM = 1.5v

    Super Pi 32M


    Hyper Pi 8x 32M


    Everest


    Linx v0.6.2 All memory test 3x run

    Load



    Complete


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    DDR3-1600Mhz 6-7-6-18 tRFC = AUTO
    2T vs 1T

    Drop mem clocks down but tighten timings @DDR3-1600Mhz 6-7-6-18 2T vs 1T at 1.66v with much lower 1.375v QPI/DRAM uncore voltage.

    System:


    DDR3-1600Mhz 6-7-6-18 2T


    CMD Rate = 2T
    tRFC = AUTO
    VDIMM = 1.66v
    QPI/DRAM = 1.375v

    Super Pi 32M


    Hyper Pi 8x 32M


    Everest


    Linx v0.6.2 All memory test 3x run

    Load



    Complete



    DDR3-1600Mhz 6-7-6-18 1T


    CMD Rate = 1T
    tRFC = AUTO
    VDIMM = 1.66v
    QPI/DRAM = 1.375v

    Super Pi 32M


    Hyper Pi 8x 32M


    Everest


    Linx v0.6.2 All memory test 3x run

    Load



    Complete


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    Hey George , thats a killer writeup your started

    Not to mention your kit is dang sweet ...

    keep pushing it

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    and here we go George with +20 test great work
    thanks for sharing
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    i think you are asking the wrong person about safety limits, but

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    thanks guys

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    good kit and review
    2100 C8 is possible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sav View Post
    good kit and review
    2100 C8 is possible?
    haven't tried yet, guess will do that next 2100 8-9-8-24 2T vs 1T vs 2100 9-9-9-24 2T vs 1T

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    Quote Originally Posted by eva2000 View Post
    haven't tried yet, guess will do that next 2100 8-9-8-24 2T vs 1T vs 2100 9-9-9-24 2T vs 1T
    noithing change in my case george max 5/10 MHz using XMP profile
    Quote Originally Posted by LardArse View Post
    i think you are asking the wrong person about safety limits, but

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    Nice stuff eva and thank you for greats review
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    Did you try 9-10-9-x ?

    These BBSE mems seem to like high TRCD value and it allows for a serious jump in clock, more than changing CAS. I run my Ripjaws 2x2GB @ DDR3-2292 9-10-9-22 1.665v as 24/7, haven't tested going higher cuz my CPU is so crappy (1.4125v bios for 191x21). I'm pretty sure they'd be capable of 9-10-9-x @ ~DDR3-2400 if I used 1.68v. These mem ICs remind me of TCCD for DDR1, likes high frequency and losened timings and doesn't require a lot of volts either.
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    BBSE Chips Rocks
    Nice Clocks , Top Thread and Pictures

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    I think I may get this set for my new 920 EVGA Classified build, looks nice, and decent price at the Egg.
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    The G.Skill Tridents are awesome for the price!!! I picked up a set for $150.00 from Newegg 2 weeks ago to play with while my Kingston 2000 CL8 Elpida Hypers are out for RMA. Hoping they send me Hypers back. If not then 12GB Triple Channel BBSE

    Here are a few quicks shots of how I made out. Pretty much same results as eva2000. Having trouble getting 2100Mhz CL8 LinX stable without really high QPI voltage.









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    high QPI/DRAM (cpu vtt) volts is always necessarily for stability for high mem/bclks

    Quote Originally Posted by ZoLKoRn View Post
    Nice stuff eva and thank you for greats review
    thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post
    Did you try 9-10-9-x ?

    These BBSE mems seem to like high TRCD value and it allows for a serious jump in clock, more than changing CAS. I run my Ripjaws 2x2GB @ DDR3-2292 9-10-9-22 1.665v as 24/7, haven't tested going higher cuz my CPU is so crappy (1.4125v bios for 191x21). I'm pretty sure they'd be capable of 9-10-9-x @ ~DDR3-2400 if I used 1.68v. These mem ICs remind me of TCCD for DDR1, likes high frequency and losened timings and doesn't require a lot of volts either.
    interesting haven't tried 9-10-9, next up i guess

    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin82 View Post
    BBSE Chips Rocks
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    thanks


    Updated results http://i4memory.com/f83/6gb-gskill-t...results-19504/

    • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 99924 2T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.47500v
    • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 99924 1T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v
    • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 89824 2T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v
    • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 89824 1T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v
    • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 79721 2T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.48750v
    • 20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 79721 1T tRFC 88 1.72v 1.50000v
    • 20x200bclk : 1600Mhz 67618 2T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.37500v
    • 20x200bclk : 1600Mhz 67618 1T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.37500v
    • 23x175bclk : 2100Mhz 99924 2T tRFC 98 1.70v 1.55000v
    • 23x175bclk : 2100Mhz 99924 1T tRFC 98 1.72v 1.55000v
    • 23x175bclk : 2100Mhz 89824 2T tRFC 98 1.72v 1.55000v
    • 23x175bclk : 2100Mhz 89824 1T tRFC 98 1.72v 1.55000v



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    indepth testing as always eva
    plenty of screenies :p

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    Quote Originally Posted by aditya View Post
    indepth testing as always eva
    plenty of screenies :p
    Indeed, very cool!
    These are arriving soon, going to use some info from these posts.
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    thanks aditya and zalbard.

    Max memory clocks @9-10-9-24 1T at 1.76v


    Folks are reporting higher head room mhz with 9-10-9-x timings for Elpida BBSE, and I can confirm that is correct. With 9-9-9-24 this trident kit maxing out 32M around DDR3-2124mhz with ceiling of semi-stability around 2160mhz. With 9-10-9-24 timings same trident kit pushed 32M pi @DDR3=2220mhz and managed validation @DDR3-2281Mhz all at 1.76v vdimm and 1.65v QPI/DRAM uncore volts.

    System:


    Max Validation @DDR3-2281Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.76v






    Max Screenshot @DDR3-2267Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.76v




    Max Super Pi 32M @DDR3-2220Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.76v


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    Awesome writeup George Thanks for sharing

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    Thanks for sharing, very nice memory, hope can also get one kit on eBay
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Lodewijk View Post
    Awesome writeup George Thanks for sharing
    Quote Originally Posted by aslanwas View Post
    Thanks for sharing, very nice memory, hope can also get one kit on eBay
    thanks guys.. will try tRCD 11 as well see if there's any more raw mhz left in the memory
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    Told ya tRCD 10 would help and I think that's where this BBSE ram shines. I didn't try 11 myself, but I'm satisfied with DDR3-2292 9-10-9-22 anyways at 1.665v. Ofc P55 and X58 can't be directly compared but pushing near 2300 in tripple channel is awesome for X58 for this price.
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    well seems tRCD 10 is loosest P6T6 WS Revolution bios will go lol.. can't select tRCD 11 heh

    New personal best cpuz memory validation and first time breaking DDR3-2300Mhz for triple channel on X58 @DDR3-2305Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.78v. Previous best was @DDR3-2298Mhz 9-9-9-24 with 3GB Samsung HCF0 modules.

    System:


    Max Validation @DDR3-2305Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.78v


    QPI/DRAM = 1.65625v
    VDIMM = 1.78v
    Uncore frequency = 4608Mhz






    Super Pi 2M @DDR3-2256Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.78v

    Last edited by eva2000; 10-04-2009 at 07:05 AM.

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