6GB Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD [lots of screenshots]

**eva2000** · 09-29-2009, 08:52 AM

Received a new triple channel memory kit from folks at Gskill - 6GB Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD. The Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD is supposedly using Elpida BBSE memory ICs, while not as capable as Elpida Hyper 50mm ICs for >DDR3-2000Mhz 7-8-7-x speeds, they still hold their own for looser timings.

I'll post my preliminary results here in preparation for a larger triple channel memory kit comparison review in the works

System:

Intel Xeon W3540 3845B010
EK Supreme LT 1366 / FESER 480 / MCP655
Asus P6T6 WS Revolution
Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD
512MB Inno3D 8800GT OC Edition 190.62WHQL
750GB Samsung SATA
Pioneer DVR-217 DVD-RW
Corsair HX1000 PSU
Dual Boot - WinXP Pro SP3 (nLite fully updated) with Vista Theme & Win7 Ultimate 64bit RTM

First hour using this kit and managed an overclock on these for 8x 32M Pi @DDR3-2124Mhz 9-9-9-24 1T at 1.72v. Asus P6T6 WS Revolution bios sets latencies pretty tight so good pi performance even for Win7 OS

Both 8x 32M Pi and single 32M Pi runs done in same windows session.

Shows promise, so now to let this memory kit get to know my Xeon W3540 + Asus P6T6 WS Revolution pairing

**eva2000** · 09-29-2009, 08:53 AM

Timings and CMD Rate comparison

Some preliminary memory tests for new 6GB Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD triple channel memory kit in preparation for a larger triple channel memory kit comparison review in the works

20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 99924 2T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.47500v
20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 99924 1T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v
20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 89824 2T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v
20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 89824 1T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v
20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 79721 2T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.48750v
20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 79721 1T tRFC 88 1.72v 1.50000v
20x200bclk : 1600Mhz 67618 2T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.37500v
20x200bclk : 1600Mhz 67618 1T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.37500v
23x175bclk : 2100Mhz 99924 2T tRFC 98 1.70v 1.55000v
23x175bclk : 2100Mhz 99924 1T tRFC 98 1.72v 1.55000v
23x175bclk : 2100Mhz 89824 2T tRFC 98 1.72v 1.55000v
23x175bclk : 2100Mhz 89824 1T tRFC 98 1.72v 1.55000v

DDR3-2000Mhz 9-9-9-24
2T vs 1T
Gskill Trident DDR3-2000Mhz kit is rated for 9-9-9-24 2T timings, so to start with testing the difference between 2T vs 1T.

System:

Intel Xeon W3540 3845B010
EK Supreme LT 1366 / FESER 480 / MCP655
Asus P6T6 WS Revolution
Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD
512MB Inno3D 8800GT OC Edition 190.62WHQL
750GB Samsung SATA
Pioneer DVR-217 DVD-RW
Corsair HX1000 PSU
Dual Boot - WinXP Pro SP3 (nLite fully updated) with Vista Theme & Win7 Ultimate 64bit RTM

DDR3-2000Mhz 9-9-9-24 2T

CMD Rate = 2T
VDIMM = 1.66v
QPI/DRAM = 1.475v

Super Pi 32M

Hyper Pi 8x 32M

Everest

Linx v0.6.2 All memory test 3x run

Load

Complete

DDR3-2000Mhz 9-9-9-24 1T
Need to bump QPI/DRAM uncore volts a tad for 1T.

CMD Rate = 1T
VDIMM = 1.66v
QPI/DRAM = 1.48125v

Super Pi 32M

Hyper Pi 8x 32M

Everest

Linx v0.6.2 All memory test 3x run

Load

Complete

**eva2000** · 09-29-2009, 08:55 AM

DDR3-2000Mhz 8-9-8-24
2T vs 1T
Now to tighten the timings @DDR3-2000Mhz 8-9-8-24 and test 2T vs 1T CMD Rate at same 1.66v vdimm and 1.48125v QPI/DRAM uncore voltage.

System:

Intel Xeon W3540 3845B010
EK Supreme LT 1366 / FESER 480 / MCP655
Asus P6T6 WS Revolution
Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD
512MB Inno3D 8800GT OC Edition 190.62WHQL
750GB Samsung SATA
Pioneer DVR-217 DVD-RW
Corsair HX1000 PSU
Dual Boot - WinXP Pro SP3 (nLite fully updated) with Vista Theme & Win7 Ultimate 64bit RTM

DDR3-2000Mhz 8-9-8-24 2T

CMD Rate = 2T
VDIMM = 1.66v
QPI/DRAM = 1.48125v

Super Pi 32M

Hyper Pi 8x 32M

Everest

Linx v0.6.2 All memory test 3x run

Load

Complete

DDR3-2000Mhz 8-9-8-24 1T
Need to bump QPI/DRAM uncore volts a tad for 1T.

CMD Rate = 1T
VDIMM = 1.66v
QPI/DRAM = 1.48125v

Super Pi 32M

Hyper Pi 8x 32M

Everest

Linx v0.6.2 All memory test 3x run

Load

Complete

**eva2000** · 09-29-2009, 08:56 AM

DDR3-2000Mhz 7-9-7-21 tRFC = 88
2T vs 1T
Further tightening of timings @DDR3-2000Mhz 7-9-7-21 with tRFC = 88 and test 2T vs 1T CMD Rate at same 1.66v vdimm and 1.4875v QPI/DRAM uncore voltage for 2T and 1.72v and 1.5v QPI/DRAM uncore voltage for 1T.

System:

Intel Xeon W3540 3845B010
EK Supreme LT 1366 / FESER 480 / MCP655
Asus P6T6 WS Revolution
Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD
512MB Inno3D 8800GT OC Edition 190.62WHQL
750GB Samsung SATA
Pioneer DVR-217 DVD-RW
Corsair HX1000 PSU
Dual Boot - WinXP Pro SP3 (nLite fully updated) with Vista Theme & Win7 Ultimate 64bit RTM

DDR3-2000Mhz 7-9-7-21 2T

CMD Rate = 2T
tRFC = 88
VDIMM = 1.66v
QPI/DRAM = 1.4875v

Super Pi 32M

Hyper Pi 8x 32M

Everest

Linx v0.6.2 All memory test 3x run

Load

Complete

DDR3-2000Mhz 7-9-7-21 1T
Need to bump QPI/DRAM uncore volts a bit but vdimm alot for 1T to pass Hyper Pi 8x 32M Pi test!.

CMD Rate = 1T
tRFC = 88
VDIMM = 1.72v
QPI/DRAM = 1.5v

Super Pi 32M

Hyper Pi 8x 32M

Everest

Linx v0.6.2 All memory test 3x run

Load

Complete

**eva2000** · 09-29-2009, 08:57 AM

DDR3-1600Mhz 6-7-6-18 tRFC = AUTO
2T vs 1T
Drop mem clocks down but tighten timings @DDR3-1600Mhz 6-7-6-18 2T vs 1T at 1.66v with much lower 1.375v QPI/DRAM uncore voltage.

System:

Intel Xeon W3540 3845B010
EK Supreme LT 1366 / FESER 480 / MCP655
Asus P6T6 WS Revolution
Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD
512MB Inno3D 8800GT OC Edition 190.62WHQL
750GB Samsung SATA
Pioneer DVR-217 DVD-RW
Corsair HX1000 PSU
Dual Boot - WinXP Pro SP3 (nLite fully updated) with Vista Theme & Win7 Ultimate 64bit RTM

DDR3-1600Mhz 6-7-6-18 2T

CMD Rate = 2T
tRFC = AUTO
VDIMM = 1.66v
QPI/DRAM = 1.375v

Super Pi 32M

Hyper Pi 8x 32M

Everest

Linx v0.6.2 All memory test 3x run

Load

Complete

DDR3-1600Mhz 6-7-6-18 1T

CMD Rate = 1T
tRFC = AUTO
VDIMM = 1.66v
QPI/DRAM = 1.375v

Super Pi 32M

Hyper Pi 8x 32M

Everest

Linx v0.6.2 All memory test 3x run

Load

Complete

**Oliver** · 09-29-2009, 09:09 AM

Hey George , thats a killer writeup your started

Not to mention your kit is dang sweet ...

keep pushing it

**hiwa** · 09-29-2009, 10:16 AM

and here we go George with +20 test

great work
thanks for sharing

**eva2000** · 09-30-2009, 12:20 AM

thanks guys

**Sav** · 09-30-2009, 12:42 AM

good kit and review

2100 C8 is possible?

**eva2000** · 09-30-2009, 02:40 AM

Originally Posted by Sav

good kit and review

2100 C8 is possible?

haven't tried yet, guess will do that next 2100 8-9-8-24 2T vs 1T vs 2100 9-9-9-24 2T vs 1T

**hiwa** · 09-30-2009, 03:03 AM

Originally Posted by eva2000

haven't tried yet, guess will do that next 2100 8-9-8-24 2T vs 1T vs 2100 9-9-9-24 2T vs 1T

noithing change in my case george max 5/10 MHz using XMP profile

**ZoLKoRn** · 09-30-2009, 03:17 AM

Nice stuff eva

and thank you for greats review

**RPGWiZaRD** · 09-30-2009, 03:34 AM

Did you try 9-10-9-x ?

These BBSE mems seem to like high TRCD value and it allows for a serious jump in clock, more than changing CAS. I run my Ripjaws 2x2GB @ DDR3-2292 9-10-9-22 1.665v as 24/7, haven't tested going higher cuz my CPU is so crappy (1.4125v bios for 191x21). I'm pretty sure they'd be capable of 9-10-9-x @ ~DDR3-2400 if I used 1.68v. These mem ICs remind me of TCCD for DDR1, likes high frequency and losened timings and doesn't require a lot of volts either.

**Marvin82** · 09-30-2009, 07:57 AM

BBSE Chips Rocks

Nice Clocks , Top Thread and Pictures

**Delemon** · 09-30-2009, 03:01 PM

I think I may get this set for my new 920 EVGA Classified build, looks nice, and decent price at the Egg.

**deachus** · 09-30-2009, 08:09 PM

The G.Skill Tridents are awesome for the price!!! I picked up a set for $150.00 from Newegg 2 weeks ago to play with while my Kingston 2000 CL8 Elpida Hypers are out for RMA. Hoping they send me Hypers back. If not then 12GB Triple Channel BBSE

Here are a few quicks shots of how I made out. Pretty much same results as eva2000. Having trouble getting 2100Mhz CL8 LinX stable without really high QPI voltage.

**eva2000** · 09-30-2009, 11:16 PM

high QPI/DRAM (cpu vtt) volts is always necessarily for stability for high mem/bclks

Originally Posted by ZoLKoRn

Nice stuff eva

and thank you for greats review

thanks

Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD

Did you try 9-10-9-x ?

These BBSE mems seem to like high TRCD value and it allows for a serious jump in clock, more than changing CAS. I run my Ripjaws 2x2GB @ DDR3-2292 9-10-9-22 1.665v as 24/7, haven't tested going higher cuz my CPU is so crappy (1.4125v bios for 191x21). I'm pretty sure they'd be capable of 9-10-9-x @ ~DDR3-2400 if I used 1.68v. These mem ICs remind me of TCCD for DDR1, likes high frequency and losened timings and doesn't require a lot of volts either.

interesting haven't tried 9-10-9, next up i guess

Originally Posted by Marvin82

BBSE Chips Rocks

Nice Clocks , Top Thread and Pictures

thanks

Updated results http://i4memory.com/f83/6gb-gskill-t...results-19504/

20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 99924 2T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.47500v
20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 99924 1T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v
20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 89824 2T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v
20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 89824 1T tRFC 98 1.66v 1.48125v
20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 79721 2T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.48750v
20x200bclk : 2000Mhz 79721 1T tRFC 88 1.72v 1.50000v
20x200bclk : 1600Mhz 67618 2T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.37500v
20x200bclk : 1600Mhz 67618 1T tRFC 88 1.66v 1.37500v
23x175bclk : 2100Mhz 99924 2T tRFC 98 1.70v 1.55000v
23x175bclk : 2100Mhz 99924 1T tRFC 98 1.72v 1.55000v
23x175bclk : 2100Mhz 89824 2T tRFC 98 1.72v 1.55000v
23x175bclk : 2100Mhz 89824 1T tRFC 98 1.72v 1.55000v

**aditya** · 10-01-2009, 12:04 AM

indepth testing as always eva

plenty of screenies :p

**zalbard** · 10-01-2009, 03:22 AM

Originally Posted by aditya

indepth testing as always eva

plenty of screenies :p

Indeed, very cool!

These are arriving soon, going to use some info from these posts.

**eva2000** · 10-01-2009, 05:44 AM

thanks aditya and zalbard.

Max memory clocks @9-10-9-24 1T at 1.76v

Folks are reporting higher head room mhz with 9-10-9-x timings for Elpida BBSE, and I can confirm that is correct. With 9-9-9-24 this trident kit maxing out 32M around DDR3-2124mhz with ceiling of semi-stability around 2160mhz. With 9-10-9-24 timings same trident kit pushed 32M pi @DDR3=2220mhz and managed validation @DDR3-2281Mhz all at 1.76v vdimm and 1.65v QPI/DRAM uncore volts.

System:

Intel Xeon W3540 3845B010
EK Supreme LT 1366 / FESER 480 / MCP655
Asus P6T6 WS Revolution
Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD
512MB Inno3D 8800GT OC Edition 190.62WHQL
750GB Samsung SATA
Pioneer DVR-217 DVD-RW
Corsair HX1000 PSU
Dual Boot - WinXP Pro SP3 (nLite fully updated) with Vista Theme & Win7 Ultimate 64bit RTM

Max Validation @DDR3-2281Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.76v

Max Screenshot @DDR3-2267Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.76v

Max Super Pi 32M @DDR3-2220Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.76v

**Benny Lodewijk** · 10-01-2009, 08:00 AM

Awesome writeup George

Thanks for sharing

**aslanwas** · 10-01-2009, 09:01 AM

Thanks for sharing,

very nice memory, hope can also get one kit on eBay

**eva2000** · 10-02-2009, 06:12 AM

Originally Posted by Benny Lodewijk

Awesome writeup George

Thanks for sharing

Originally Posted by aslanwas

Thanks for sharing,

very nice memory, hope can also get one kit on eBay

thanks guys.. will try tRCD 11 as well see if there's any more raw mhz left in the memory

**RPGWiZaRD** · 10-02-2009, 12:48 PM

Told ya tRCD 10 would help and I think that's where this BBSE ram shines.

I didn't try 11 myself, but I'm satisfied with DDR3-2292 9-10-9-22 anyways at 1.665v. Ofc P55 and X58 can't be directly compared but pushing near 2300 in tripple channel is awesome for X58 for this price.

**eva2000** · 10-04-2009, 06:53 AM

well seems tRCD 10 is loosest P6T6 WS Revolution bios will go lol.. can't select tRCD 11 heh

New personal best cpuz memory validation and first time breaking DDR3-2300Mhz for triple channel on X58 @DDR3-2305Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.78v. Previous best was @DDR3-2298Mhz 9-9-9-24 with 3GB Samsung HCF0 modules.

System:

Intel Xeon W3540 3845B010
EK Supreme LT 1366 / FESER 480 / MCP655
Asus P6T6 WS Revolution
Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD
512MB Inno3D 8800GT OC Edition 190.62WHQL
750GB Samsung SATA
Pioneer DVR-217 DVD-RW
Corsair HX1000 PSU
Dual Boot - WinXP Pro SP3 (nLite fully updated) with Vista Theme & Win7 Ultimate 64bit RTM

Max Validation @DDR3-2305Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.78v

QPI/DRAM = 1.65625v
VDIMM = 1.78v
Uncore frequency = 4608Mhz

Super Pi 2M @DDR3-2256Mhz 9-10-9-24 1T at 1.78v

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