Athlon II X4 620: “Ferrari? This Mustang Can Hang!!!”

[EnJoY]

I was looking for a detailed review of these CPU’s and you guessed it!! If you want a good one then do it yourself! All of the reviews out there were good enough and well done but, for some of us, that does not cut it.

The two premises I am focusing on are max (reasonable) overclock for the gamer and undervolting at stock speed for the HTPE\HEPC.

Super Pi 1M @ 3.9GHz

Think you need a Phenom II? Think again, this chip may suit your needs for a fraction of the cost!


Full Review @ TechREACTION

[cesariuth]

nice

a need one

[TheBlueChanell]

Very nice. Did you have to use AOD or is it just there for reference?

[EnJoY]

Very nice. Did you have to use AOD or is it just there for reference?

Archer actually did the review, and yes I believe he did use AOD to achieve his results. Check for full blog for all the details if you're interested, the screenshot I posted was merely a highlight.

[Corsa]

I've been looking for more reviews on this cpu.... thk u

ohh, and i much prefer the all in one page style

[Titan7171]

I get 17 second superpi at 3.9ghz with my 965.........23 seconds is worse than Phenom 1 9950, this is a horrible score for propus ....

[EnJoY]

I get 17 second superpi at 3.9ghz with my 965.........23 seconds is worse than Phenom 1 9950, this is a horrible score for propus ....

It was merely to show that it wasn't just a suicide shot. Look at the memory speed and northbridge speed Archer had set. There in lies your answer.

[Titan7171]

It was merely to show that it wasn't just a suicide shot. Look at the memory speed and northbridge speed Archer had set. There in lies your answer.

So is it a joke?

I wouldnt say drop your phenom 2 and get a propus for a fraction of the cost unless I could show that performance was close.

If you are running your memory and nb like that to see 3.9ghz its a suicide shot

Ill throw in these just in case its a joke

[DedEmbryonicCe1]

In the Everest CPU tests, the scores for the 620 @3.7GHz are almost identical to my 940 @3.7GHz (except for the PhotoWorxx test where the 620 bombed for some reason).

Everest Ultimate 5.02.1750:

620 X4 @3.7GHz
CPU Queen 22834
CPU PhotoWorxx 13664 ???
CPU ZLib 96744 KB/s
CPU AES 26350
FPU Julia 9864
FPU Mandel 6188
FPU SinJulia 3211

My 940 X4 @3.7GHz / NB 2.8GHz / memory @1066MHz 5-5-5-15-T2
CPU Queen 22966
CPU PhotoWorxx 29882
CPU ZLib 97893 KB/s
CPU AES 26743
FPU Julia 9903
FPU Mandel 6230
FPU SinJulia 3229

[EnJoY]

So is it a joke?

I wouldnt say drop your phenom 2 and get a propus for a fraction of the cost unless I could show that performance was close.

If you are running your memory and nb like that to see 3.9ghz its a suicide shot

Ill throw in these just in case its a joke

Umm...I don't think you're understanding me.

He didn't bother tweaking or clocking his ram or northbridge, whatsoever, in fact he downclocked them as he was going for pure CPU OC. Would the RAM and NB being higher have made an impact on the chip's stability? Probably not, but you can tell this shot was taken while he was at the tale end of his testing, and 100% of his focus was on the abilities of the chip.

You know what though, I'll have him run a 1m at proper memory and NB frequency at 3.9GHz to give you a better idea of how it performs. Sound good?

[Don_Dan]

He didn't bother tweaking or clocking his ram or northbridge, whatsoever, in fact he downclocked them as he was going for pure CPU OC. Would the RAM and NB being higher have made an impact on the chip's stability? Probably not, but you can tell this shot was taken while he was at the tale end of his testing, and 100% of his focus was on the abilities of the chip.

You know what though, I'll have him run a 1m at proper memory and NB frequency at 3.9GHz to give you a better idea of how it performs. Sound good?

You may want to reconsider the bold part...

At least from the few days I'm testing my 965 NB makes a huge difference.

[demonkevy666]

It was merely to show that it wasn't just a suicide shot. Look at the memory speed and northbridge speed Archer had set. There in lies your answer.

23 secs is fine for 1.8ghz nb, vs that 2.4ghz 33% higher NB and 13% lower core clock. on that phenom II. I didn't put the 2mb L3/Nb advantage in there either.

it can beat a phenom 9950 at the same clocks, in most applications. only encoding apps where cache is used more it will lose.

[Titan7171]

Umm...I don't think you're understanding me.

He didn't bother tweaking or clocking his ram or northbridge, whatsoever, in fact he downclocked them as he was going for pure CPU OC. Would the RAM and NB being higher have made an impact on the chip's stability? Probably not, but you can tell this shot was taken while he was at the tale end of his testing, and 100% of his focus was on the abilities of the chip.

You know what though, I'll have him run a 1m at proper memory and NB frequency at 3.9GHz to give you a better idea of how it performs. Sound good?

Yea I know.... but what Im saying is, if you are going to title a thread "I've found the golden egg" show me a golden egg........not a piece of coal.

3.9ghz is ok........but not with low memory/ht and NB at 1.52v without the L3.

I can do 3.9ghz at 1.47v ht at 2.2 and nb at 2.8ghz plus I got the L3

Now if that cpu does similar clocks at slightly lower voltages and then shows a decrease in performance from not having the L3 Id say yea thats a pretty good cpu as an alternative.

If that cpu gives 80-90% of the performance of Phenom 2 when its properly set up at similar clocks then I say thats an awsome purchase for the price.

but right now I just dont see it

Look at the screenie I posted of my Phenom 1 memory was 1066mhz, ht 2ghz, nb 2.4ghz, and cpu at 3.4ghz.

[chew*]

Using PI as the only measure to call something a peice of coal.....and downplay some great bang for buck.

[Newblar]

Yea I know.... but what Im saying is, if you are going to title a thread "I've found the golden egg" show me a golden egg........not a piece of coal.

3.9ghz is ok........but not with low memory/ht and NB at 1.52v without the L3.

I can do 3.9ghz at 1.47v ht at 2.2 and nb at 2.8ghz plus I got the L3

Now if that cpu does similar clocks at slightly lower voltages and then shows a decrease in performance from not having the L3 Id say yea thats a pretty good cpu as an alternative.

If that cpu gives 80-90% of the performance of Phenom 2 when its properly set up at similar clocks then I say thats an awsome purchase for the price.

but right now I just dont see it

Look at the screenie I posted of my Phenom 1 memory was 1066mhz, ht 2ghz, nb 2.4ghz, and cpu at 3.4ghz.

did you miss that this overclock is on a budget biostar 790gx mobo with value ram?
and a AC freezer 64?
since when in the hell was superpi ever a reasonable program for real world cpu testing?

[EnJoY]

Yea I know.... but what Im saying is, if you are going to title a thread "I've found the golden egg" show me a golden egg........not a piece of coal.

3.9ghz is ok........but not with low memory/ht and NB at 1.52v without the L3.

I can do 3.9ghz at 1.47v ht at 2.2 and nb at 2.8ghz plus I got the L3

Now if that cpu does similar clocks at slightly lower voltages and then shows a decrease in performance from not having the L3 Id say yea thats a pretty good cpu as an alternative.

If that cpu gives 80-90% of the performance of Phenom 2 when its properly set up at similar clocks then I say thats an awsome purchase for the price.

but right now I just dont see it

Look at the screenie I posted of my Phenom 1 memory was 1066mhz, ht 2ghz, nb 2.4ghz, and cpu at 3.4ghz.

Sorry, I thought 3.9GHz on 4 cores was pretty good for $100 bucks. Furthermore, this wasn't a super pi competition, this was just a budget look for those who are in the market for such a thing.

[EnJoY]

You may want to reconsider the bold part...

At least from the few days I'm testing my 965 NB makes a huge difference.

I said higher and I meant it. With NB at 2.0GHz and Ram at 1066, this would not have changed it's stability at 3.9GHz.

[Titan7171]

Using PI as the only measure to call something a peice of coal.....and downplay some great bang for buck.

not my fault, thats what they used to show the performance, what exactly do you see in the sreenshot that shows its great bang for the buck the high voltage,the low NB or the slow superpi ?.....

did you miss that this overclock is on a budget biostar 790gx mobo with value ram?
and a AC freezer 64?
since when in the hell was superpi ever a reasonable program for real world cpu testing?

Like I said ....not my fault....tell them to post more results, Im not going to guess that its a great cpu. And what if people go and buy it then all of a suddent they cant hit 3.9 because they didnt realize everything else was underclocked? On top of that if they were able to downclock why not just leave it at stock or even oc the nb?

Sorry, I thought 3.9GHz on 4 cores was pretty good for $100 bucks. Furthermore, this wasn't a super pi competition, this was just a budget look for those who are in the market for such a thing.

Its fine but then why not just show 3.9ghz with all the settings at normal?

[EnJoY]

not my fault, thats what they used to show the performance, what exactly do you see in the sreenshot that shows its great bang for the buck the high voltage,the low NB or the slow superpi ?.....



Like I said ....not my fault....tell them to post more results, Im not going to guess that its a great cpu. And what if people go and buy it then all of a suddent they cant hit 3.9 because they didnt realize everything else was underclocked? On top of that if they were able to downclock why not just leave it at stock or even oc the nb?



Its fine but then why not just show 3.9ghz with all the settings at normal?

This was a blog, email the blogger and ask him.

[Titan7171]

This was a blog, email the blogger and ask him.

OMG I thought it was your cpu........ahh sorry man.

I was a bit frustrated because when I show a cpu I have I show everything, lots of results for people to see and I thought you just didnt do it.

I apologize.

[Smartidiot89]

I've actually thaught about an Athlon II x4 for my 24/7 rig

[Don_Dan]

I said higher and I meant it. With NB at 2.0GHz and Ram at 1066, this would not have changed it's stability at 3.9GHz.

I'm not attacking you, it's a great bargain for sure, but with low NB 4GHz on all cores is easy. For 24/7 use one better find a balance between core and NB clocks for best performance.

[EnJoY]

I'm not attacking you, it's a great bargain for sure, but with low NB 4GHz on all cores is easy. For 24/7 use one better find a balance between core and NB clocks for best performance.

Of course.

[beta]

the original description of that pic @ techreaction.net is:

Teaser only. The Pi score is low due to the reduced memory speed. I am not saying that these CPU's will run at 3.9 and will post no other benchmarks. Take it at that.

[Don_Dan]

Of course.

I know you know it, I just wanted to emphasize my point!