Which dream PC to buy??

[slavikpro]

Hello all,
I've wanted to buy a new PC for some time now. After talking to some friends who have a good knowledge about computers, I have made a list of PC parts which I should buy. First I wanted to build a PC on my own, simply because I couldn't find a payable PC which contained the parts, but then I came across the following 2 PC's which I really liked (see link below).
I want to use PC for video editing and rendering, working in 3D programs, like Solid Works and 3D Max and playing the latest games on a 17'' TFT screen, so the max. resolution won't be that big.
So my questions are: 1) are these PC's worth the money they ask for it? 2) which of 2 PC's would you choose and WHY?
Thanks in advance!

PC1: PC1
PC2: PC2

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[v0dka]

For that price you can get more if you do it yourself. And you can avoid ending up with a stock Intel cooler and non-overclocked 4890.

[slavikpro]

I have been searching for the cheapest parts which are included in these PC's on internet and after I sum everything up and make an approximation I come to a price which is around 1000 euro, where do you buy your parts from? )
And why can't I simply replace the stock cooler (it's the cooler you get with the PC, right?) if it's so bad and get the graphical card overclocked?

[DavyBoy]

I would avoid pre-build PC's at all costs.. you will get more satisfaction building your own rig, and you will have the advantage of being able to choose each component yourself.

Although those 2 systems look decent enough, I wouldn't be to sure about the PSU, I have never heard of those before personally, and when I googled it, all I got was a bunch of links to that site..

And about your qusetiong about replacing the stock cooler, I would imagine if you did this with a pre built PC, it would automatically void your warranty, I don't know this for sure, but I would suspect that this would be the case.

Like I said, just build yourself mate.

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Wouldn't gaming with a 4890 on a 17" monitor be overkill???

[v0dka]

I have been searching for the cheapest parts which are included in these PC's on internet and after I sum everything up and make an approximation I come to a price which is around 1000 euro, where do you buy your parts from? )

The point is, that you can make something better for €900 if you go with other components. i7 860, Gigabyte UD3R and 4GB PC12800 should cost no more than € 450. That leaves HALF your budget to burn on the rest like a better videocard etc. But still, I only reach a total of €883 going with the components you listed. And that is using a good PSU. Damn link. Copy paste url.

http://azerty.nl/winkelmandje/winkelmandje/?legen=1&product%5B194111%5D=1&product%5B194661%5D=1&product%5B68467%5D=1&product%5B35626%5D=1&product%5B230939%5D=1&product%5B232735%5D=1&product%5B97107%5D=1

Fugly case but I'm assuming you dont care about that looking at that Ankermann thing, and that you want a window. Forgot optical drive btw. Still far from €1.000,-

[moiraesfate]

Don't. Those cost way more than they're worth. By building it yourself (alot easier than it sounds), you'll save at least half the price and you'll get exactly what you want.

[Leeghoofd]

probably ty PSU and case ventilation in them preassembled rigs... building it yaself might be more expensive but at least you know what you get...

[slavikpro]

WOw, thanks a lot guys, you've opened my eyes . I will certainly build a PC myself now.
And you are right about the warranty, BLunTSmoKeR, prebuild computers are not allowed to be messed with. The problem about the size of the monitor is that I don't have enough space to sit further away from PC than like 0.5 meter. So with a bigger monitor I won't have a full overview of the picture and it might cause my eyes to get tired as well.