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    Quote Originally Posted by Lathode View Post
    Is that from a Foxconn socket or LOTES? Have you tried subzero at ~5GHz with a LOTES socket yet?
    Foxconn once again

    Zero burnouts on LOTES so far. Even at higher OC's and more VCC (current draw), I've had no problems on the TYCO AMP or LOTES sockets.

    I should add that it does not take much current when the contact is bad - 7.5 ~ 10 amps is very low VCC draw (factor VTT out of that) and the subzero die temps cooling the internal power plane. The pins break the thermal inertia and still manage to melt despite the sub-zero die temps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zfactor View Post
    my freinds p55 max3 from newegg socket melted down tonight. and he was only on air at 4.1. his system shut down and would not restart. he called me i said just out of curiosity to check his cpu socket and sure enough in the same corner he had the socket melted like these pics shown here and the bottom of the cpu was messed up. he did have the foxconn socket also. he just got his last week also. this is sure making me a bit nervous about buying anything p55 right now. as i said he was only on air. i do not know his settings but he said it was at 4.1 ill try to find out more of what settings he was running tomm

    Can you get some pics from him? Interested in the burn pattern.
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    Word is that Foxconn have changed the socket top plate in a revision to correct the problem. Not sure that it is trouble free now as someone in mainland China had a problem on the revised socket too. What I do know is that DFI, EVGA and MSI have moved production over to other socket vendors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raju View Post
    Word is that Foxconn have changed the socket top plate in a revision to correct the problem. Not sure that it is trouble free now as someone in mainland china had a problem on the revised socket too.
    When were the sockets revised and are they identifiable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lathode View Post
    When were the sockets revised and are they identifiable?
    thats the part Lathode that is all under wraps. I've had two vendors come forwards and show me what Foxconn sent them. Foxconn claim the issue was identified in May and that Intel were due to revise their design to rectify. Apprently these were supposed to be sample sockets with the issue and all issues were supposed to be in house in some vendor labs. Since then there have been issues reported on what is supposed to be the revised Foxconn socket (or samples that have gone into the wild on retail boards), so I'm not sure what to believe at this point. What some of the vendors have seens themselves is not centric to an earlier model or revision of socket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raju View Post
    Word is that Foxconn have changed the socket top plate in a revision to correct the problem. Not sure that it is trouble free now as someone in mainland China had a problem on the revised socket too. What I do know is that DFI, EVGA and MSI have moved production over to other socket vendors.
    completely moved to LOTES and no other sockets?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinos22 View Post
    completely moved to LOTES and no other sockets?
    wow
    Yeah, LOTES only for DFI and MSI, while EVGA are using TYCO AMP or LOTES only for P55. DFI actually removed the Foxconn socket from P55 board stock and reworked to LOTES (obviosuly not production/stock scale like some of the bigger vendors which makes this possible).
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    Quote Originally Posted by raju View Post
    Yeah, LOTES only for DFI and MSI, while EVGA are using TYCO AMP or LOTES only for P55. DFI actually removed the Foxconn socket from P55 board stock and reworked to LOTES (obviosuly not production/stock scale like some of the bigger vendors which makes this possible).
    Any news form Asus on this? I know that they used to use the LOTES on their high end boards before the P55

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    What is the actual fault really? is it the socket itself or is it the design of the metal plate pressing onto the socket? Can't we just replace the metal retention plate with a LOTES one?

    Has anyone tried using pliers to increase the bend a few more degrees so it gives more pressure to the socket?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raju View Post
    Can you get some pics from him? Interested in the burn pattern.
    i will try to get some before he sends it back wherever its going to i sent him the pics from this thread and he said it looks basically just the same top left corner he said not as bad as the worst ones here but it was for sure more than a pin or two. he said this morning he guesses maybe 6-8 pins at least
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    My MIIIF have the problem, i see my i5 750 and non all pads have the right contact, what a SHAME! :cry

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    The top plate on the LOTES is slightly different looking, mainly the tabs that put pressure on the CPU have different indents. So if Foxconn is changing the top plate like Raju's source says then I wonder if people can request a new top plate and replace their own.

    LOTES


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    Hi@all
    Your thread and the article @anandtech makes users worlwide crazy Young OC junkies here in Europe means P55 is .
    It s a nice socket with only little problems .


    @ raju
    - Can u tell us your proffesion ?
    - Why not u show burnout socket with videocam ? ....youtube
    - Before and after OC
    - Clear new boards with LOTES vs Foxconn socket with new CPU
    Only that makes 100% clearance for xtreme overclockers.


    If not, 100000 technical people means you and the other "burnouter" are
    only crazy panic entertainer vs Foxconn . U know the technical conditions ,that socket 1156 has 75Vcc pins less vs socket 1366 ? ..... its better manufactures limit VCore.

    See u in David Letterman Show ?
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    Looks like the altavista translation failed there.
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    Hi

    Does it back plate and socket top plate removeable ? it had 3 screw and I was wonder if I have foxconn top and back plate then remove it and order new LOTES top and back plate kit to install it ? will it works ? easy swap it out ?.







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    Quote Originally Posted by BikerKS View Post
    Hi@all
    Your thread and the article @anandtech makes users worlwide crazy Young OC junkies here in Europe means P55 is .
    It s a nice socket with only little problems .


    @ raju
    - Can u tell us your proffesion ?
    - Why not u show burnout socket with videocam ? ....youtube
    - Before and after OC
    - Clear new boards with LOTES vs Foxconn socket with new CPU
    Only that makes 100% clearance for xtreme overclockers.


    If not, 100000 technical people means you and the other "burnouter" are
    only crazy panic entertainer vs Foxconn . U know the technical conditions ,that socket 1156 has 75Vcc pins less vs socket 1366 ? ..... its better manufactures limit VCore.

    See u in David Letterman Show ?
    Oh come on. Many here now Rajinder and I donīt think thats neccesary.
    Also heīs not the only person reporting this. Or now itīs not only OC that needs to be video-taped to probe it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raju View Post
    Word is that Foxconn have changed the socket top plate in a revision to correct the problem. Not sure that it is trouble free now as someone in mainland China had a problem on the revised socket too. What I do know is that DFI, EVGA and MSI have moved production over to other socket vendors.
    Yup was told the same by DFI they're going Lotes for P55 - I know the DFI P55 i have coming is Lotes based

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    Quote Originally Posted by BikerKS View Post
    Hi@all
    Your thread and the article @anandtech makes users worlwide crazy Young OC junkies here in Europe means P55 is .
    It s a nice socket with only little problems .


    @ raju
    - Can u tell us your proffesion ?
    - Why not u show burnout socket with videocam ? ....youtube
    - Before and after OC
    - Clear new boards with LOTES vs Foxconn socket with new CPU
    Only that makes 100% clearance for xtreme overclockers.


    If not, 100000 technical people means you and the other "burnouter" are
    only crazy panic entertainer vs Foxconn . U know the technical conditions ,that socket 1156 has 75Vcc pins less vs socket 1366 ? ..... its better manufactures limit VCore.

    See u in David Letterman Show ?

    Count the VCC pins here;


    (Page 86 ~ 88)
    http://download.intel.com/design/pro...hts/322164.pdf

    (Page 44~47)

    http://download.intel.com/design/pro...hts/320834.pdf


    It' around 180 for 1156 to over 250 for 1366. So yes around a 75 pin gap.

    Why do you need to see it on video? Do you work for David Letterman? (I assume it's cable/boom duties)

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    Seems like we have a Foxconn employee among us
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    It looks easy enough to change the ILM/Backplate ourselves, just a case of sourcing this: http://cn.lotes.cc/product_info.php?id=3289

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    Quote Originally Posted by raju View Post
    Why do you need to see it on video?
    Alzheimer's best friend ? I say it before.
    No video- no reliably informed- about your proper working conditions
    Any sh*t is on youtube, why not so "meanfuly things" like yours ?
    Its an easy way to use. When we will report @Anandtech burn socket like yours, we can use 2V Vcore with boxed cooler and send the pics to stupid online warriors too.
    We mean u lift LOTES and others not fair in heaven .

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    Quote Originally Posted by BikerKS View Post
    Alzheimer's best friend ? I say it before.
    No video- no reliably informed- about your proper working conditions
    Any sh*t is on youtube, why not so "meanfuly things" like yours ?
    Its an easy way to use. When we will report @Anandtech burn socket like yours, we can use 2V Vcore with boxed cooler and send the pics to stupid online warriors too.
    We mean u lift LOTES and others not fair in heaven .
    That would imply I am talking BS. You might as well ask for video evidence to everything and from everyone. Don't like it? Don't read it, simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by massman View Post
    Seems like we have a Foxconn employee among us
    Something strange going on for sure. Now we are talking lies unless we provide video evidence

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    Quote Originally Posted by BikerKS View Post
    we can use 2V Vcore with boxed cooler and send the pics to stupid online warriors too.
    So even Foxconn uses Lotes sockets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BikerKS View Post
    Alzheimer's best friend ? I say it before.
    No video- no reliably informed- about your proper working conditions
    Any sh*t is on youtube, why not so "meanfuly things" like yours ?
    Its an easy way to use. When we will report @Anandtech burn socket like yours, we can use 2V Vcore with boxed cooler and send the pics to stupid online warriors too.
    We mean u lift LOTES and others not fair in heaven .
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