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    inglorious basterds: tarantino... but diferent...

    ill try not to spoil anything, but if your sensetive about this stuff hit the return button on your keyboard in 3, 2, 1 NOW

    i expected more...
    it doesnt suck... but its not great...
    its definately worth watching it if you liked his previous movies... but dont expect his masterpiece or anything like his previous movies...

    brat pitt was dissapointing for me in this movie, but i blame the character hes playing and not his acting for it.

    christoph waltz, the evil nazi jew-hunter was amazing... truly amazing... even if you ignore his really perfectly fluent english, german, french and italian performances, his acting was really great... without him this movie wouldnt have been worth its playtime imo...

    the actress playing the french jewish chic (Mélanie Laurent) was pretty good too...

    Daniel Brühl (Zoller - the nazi sniper) and Til Schweiger (the german nazi killer) were terrible imo... really terrible... they both did so much better in previous german movies (goodbye lenin - der bewegte mann) i was shocked to see them deliver such an amateurish performance...

    overall i gotta say i loved the opening and the last third... but everything between that was... well i really dont want to call a tarantino movie, even a part of it, boring... but it was... my gf even fell asleep!

    compared to his other movies this is a lot like jacky brown id say... i adore pulp fiction, kill bill, reservoir dogs, from dusk till dawn!
    and even true romance, sin city and the CSI episodes he worked on, even though those werent fully his work, are really awesome imo... ome of the best movies and tv show episodes ever shot...

    jacky brown i liked but its really nothing id watch many times... while all his other works are really amazing imo and i could watch them in a loop for days and would probably still enjoy them, cause the dialoges and scenes and music are just so epic and awesome and there are so many subtle and powerful messages and contrasts... jacky brown is a movie i saw once and enjoyed it, and saw it again a while later and it was... ok...

    in my opinion IB is the worst movie he made so far... ill probably watch it again, but only once or maybe a third time in a few years... but thats it... there are no cool quotes, funny quotes, deep thoughts or moments, big contrasts... the characters all seem very cartoony somehow, like empty shells, so predictable and flat... even waltzs and laurents characters seem a little flat and hollow when compared to characters from his earlier movies...

    i saw the "making of" yesterday and tarantino was really enjoying himself on the set visibly... my guess is that he didnt really try to make this a great movie, this was more of a fun project for him... its not a bad movie by all means... but for a tarantino movie its definately disapointing if you expect anything like his previous movies... at least thats my opinion and most people i talked to about it agreed...

    some people call this his masterpiece... i couldnt disagree more, the tarantino mojo that other movies are so packed with is spread really thin in this one imo... but im just saying, some people seem to love it, so def dont take my word for it and go and see it... its definately worth the watch, even if you feel the same as me about it
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    I really liked this movie and thought brad pitt's character was funny.
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    Great movie. Highly recommended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dengyong View Post
    I really liked this movie and thought brad pitt's character was funny.
    i expected his character to be one of the main characters and more young, energetic and fun... but he was only a side character and it had no depth to it... hes a stubborn, arrogant and pretty stupid, old fart who likes to hear himself talk and tell others how great he is...

    i wasnted to kick his t33th in but that only shows how well he played the role!

    still quite dissapointing, i mean even his role in true romance was more interesting imo, and that was him smoking pot for 5 mins and being completely stoned LOL

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    Funny parts, brad was really funny. Got interesting at the end.

    I cant recommend this movie though, it had a lot of reading and got kinda bore and got me tired.

    Every time I discuss this movie I find 50:50 comments. So Im glad Im not the only one who thought it wasnt that great.
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    to me it felt like only 30% or so were a tarantino movie and the rest was directed and written by somebody else...
    i really enjoyed the opening scene, its far from as nice as the dialogues or monologues of his previous movies, but its clearly tarantino style and its very poetic in its own way... typical tarantino style

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    what totally surprised me was waltz killing the german actress... that was... completely unexpected... and very new and interesting... ive never seen anything like that in another movie before...

    bad parts of the movie for me were:
    the baseball headsmashing basterd being introduced and you hear him coming out of the black tunnel for what, like 5 minutes? way too long and stretched and abolutely boring... no cool camera shots or anything... just a guy with a baseball bat walking out of a small tunnel... and then smashing some guys head... it didnt feel horror movie style gross or fierce or horrifying... it just seemed really sick and perverse and insane with all the guys standing around them laughing... like a group of serial killers.

    another low point of the movie for me was when the german sniper and the french jewish dreyfuss chic kill each other... their death performances made me laugh out loud cause they were sooooo amateurish... i had theatre classes in highschool and man, ive seen better performances from co-students there than what those supposedly experienced actors pulled off there... i mean seriously... nobody can watch that scene and tell me thats some fine acting... that was mexican soap opera quality there...

    oh and what was up with the old guy from kill bill showing up for like 2 minutes, mumbling something, twitching with his eyes and thats it...

    and mike meyers showing up was weird too... he looks like hes about to burst out in laughter most of the time, he had this really weird look in his eyes
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    Not a good film. 4/10.

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    if i wouldnt know tarantino, and this would be the first movie id see from him... i think id even give it a 3 or 2 of 10...
    but with my tarantino background id say... 5

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    Excellent movie. Unless some of you simply can't be kept awake by anything short of a late 80s Stallone flick, I don't see how it could be called boring. The whole story was good. It's the kind of movie that has a long play time but doesn't feel like it at all. Kill Bill is good, but I think I liked IB even better.

    Of course, I don't expect anyone else to experience it quite the same way I did. This is just my own impression.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Particle View Post
    Excellent movie. Unless some of you simply can't be kept awake by anything short of a late 80s Stallone flick, I don't see how it could be called boring. The whole story was good. It's the kind of movie that has a long play time but doesn't feel like it at all. Kill Bill is good, but I think I liked IB even better.

    Of course, I don't expect anyone else to experience it quite the same way I did. This is just my own impression.
    some stuff is just boring... and you know why? except for waltz and the dreyfous chic we dont know any of them... the characters never get properly introduced... theres one short few second scene telling us this is this guy and hes that kinda guy... thats it...

    so of course its boring when those characters are interacting or dieing or are in a risky situation... you dont know them, why would you care about what happens to them? if they get blown to bits, sure, thats fun regardless of who they are... but if they talk? why would you want to see some people you barely know and hence dont give a r4ts 4ss about see talk for a while? might as well look out the window then... thats not what i go to the cinema for :P

    and even waltz and the dreyfous chic were not introduced properly... we seem them in the intro and then again a few years later and only dreyfous' soroundings have changed, but she hasnt really evolved or changed herself... at least from what we know... all we know from her is that a few years ago she ran away when her family was killed...

    in previous tarantino movies the characters were deeper, rounder, interacted more intensely with each other, there were clashes of strong characters... and we saw the characters evolve and grow... plus we had several frames which made it more interesting...

    and another thing, in previous tarantino movies there were so many unknowns... and unexpected things happening... so many riddles and surpries... IB is so linear and predictable that it needs action to keep a fast pace, but there isnt much action at all...

    and there isnt much of a story happening to begin with...

    american jews enter nazi germany to demoralize them, they ultimately sneak into a movie event with lots of top nazi guys to kill them but get caught.
    one nazi collaborates with them to save his own 4ss and they kill all the nazis and end the war.

    the end...
    all of this was pretty obvious when i just heard about the movie, and while there were some small surprises most pf the overall movie is slow and boring imo...

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    Not much more to say about it I guess. I simply disagree with your conclusions.
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    so you think we get to know the characters enough? or you think we dont, but they are still interesting?
    how do you see it compared to hi previous movies? do you think this one is worse but still good, or the same, or even better? why?
    come on! im curious why some people like it that much... i dont think its a bad movie, but its not good imo... especially not for a tarantino movie which tend to outshine even the biggest blockbusters and oscar winners and burn into your memory and you can enjoy them even after 10 and probably 20 and 30 years... at least in my opinion...

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    Jackie Brown is my favorite Tarantino film. I also liked this movie, though it is one that takes two viewings IMO to fully digest it and be able to form a complete opinion. Viewing it a second time greatly increased my liking of the film, I thought Brad Pitt was the weak point - he played a very broad character and his lines were obviously written for a very broad audience..i cringed when the theatre busted a gut at his character saying something in italian with a crappy southern accent (which seemed to keep changing throughout the movie). Seriously, the basterds were by far the worst characters in the movie thank god they didn't get more screen time.

    IMO: 8.5/10 - I give an extra .5 to the wonderful direction displayed.

    @saaya: I am surprised that your gripe with the movie is lack of character development, yet you say your favorites include Kill Bill and From Dusk Till Dawn over Jackie Brown, which by far had the greatest character development of any of his movies.

    It sounds like you don't fancy slow-pacing and this movie along with JB is very slow-paced. Sounds like an attention span problem, and you were expecting a standard kind of war movie with more action and more jokes.
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    I saw this movie on the release date. Since there wasn't a thread I just assumed no one was interested .

    Excellent movie. Usually with Tarantino films I find a lot of the scenes brilliant, but the movie as a complete work not that great. This was the opposite for me.

    I won't go into too much detail by my basic thoughts are this:
    I loved the beginning of the movie. It does a great job of introducing you to the characters. The Basterds part (especially the bear Jew) reminded me of a very graphic version of TF2.
    The middle of the movie on was a bit slow. At least, that was my opinion while watching it. I realize now that the pacing makes perfect sense but it may not be something you pay close attention to, which you should.
    The very end of the movie has the scene where everything comes together and we get to watch the result of all the planning. This part is brilliant, poetic, and yet campy in a way only Tarantino could pull off. Fantastic end that makes the rest of the movie totally worth the build up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderstruck! View Post
    Jackie Brown is my favorite Tarantino film. I also liked this movie, though it is one that takes two viewings IMO to fully digest it and be able to form a complete opinion. Viewing it a second time greatly increased my liking of the film, I thought Brad Pitt was the weak point - he played a very broad character and his lines were obviously written for a very broad audience..i cringed when the theatre busted a gut at his character saying something in italian with a crappy southern accent (which seemed to keep changing throughout the movie). Seriously, the basterds were by far the worst characters in the movie thank god they didn't get more screen time.

    IMO: 8.5/10 - I give an extra .5 to the wonderful direction displayed.

    @saaya: I am surprised that your gripe with the movie is lack of character development, yet you say your favorites include Kill Bill and From Dusk Till Dawn over Jackie Brown, which by far had the greatest character development of any of his movies.

    It sounds like you don't fancy slow-pacing and this movie along with JB is very slow-paced. Sounds like an attention span problem, and you were expecting a standard kind of war movie with more action and more jokes.
    IB is what? jews slaughtering nazis in ww2... dont honestly tell me you expected a jacky brown style slow paced movie :P
    i expected a from dusk till dawn + kill bill style movie...

    and its not attention span, its not like i cant appreciate slow paced movies...
    i just didnt expect this... jacky brown character development? not really... where did any of the characters in jacky brown change in any way? it was a confrontation of diferent characters in a certain situation and then watching them master the situation... but none of them realized something and then changed their ways...

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    inglroious basterds is straight up win.
    emptiness

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    far out man
    you are hard to please

    come to think of it....are you ever happy with anything
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinos22 View Post
    far out man
    you are hard to please

    come to think of it....are you ever happy with anything
    your wife isnt too bad

    im very picky, i know...
    i love his older movies... but hey, i love flash gordon too, and thats a terrible movie!

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