The ATI Radeon 5XXX Thread

[unkn0wnhacka]

maybe they should start making video cards with 3 shorter layers instead of one long one :P This is getting to be toooo long

They should also start making better heatsinks and putting the fans on the side of the card

[eRazorzEDGE]

They should achieve cold fusion as well, while they're at it.

[Jamesrt2004]

£379 with 15 nwd shipping
that's nearly 400 pounds

What's the difference? Well ocers suck and don't have stock, they're lying. What they do is keep the price low on out of stock parts and pump the price of what they have.

so you can look and say 'holy sht that's a rip off, but at least they have other vendors at a reasonable price'

..oh wait..

rofl people even ordered it from there me included for £300.. so dont start that crap oh well I see your banned....

even so we pay much higher to get the cards in the UK etc... tbh I import a lot of stuff from asia etc.. and I worked out the cards SHOULD be around 285~ but obv with launch gauging they will just round up .. so meh...

pretty damn good deal ... only cos' you scammed yourself thats your fault.

I can't even imagine the length and the power consumption of the 5870X2!!!
I'll take a wild guess saying they will:
a) use 5850/5870 mix cores to avoid too much heat and power consumption and avoid too long PCB
b)Make a dual PCB card
C)Go for the homerun with a single, extremely long PCB and enormous power consumption!

power consumption underr load is like 3/4w more then the 4870 .. it will be fine I mean they made a 4870x2 right.

[Lightman]

I've ordered yesterday and got card today.
£294.00+7 next day!
Cant wait to go home

[Origin_Unknown]

I've ordered yesterday and got card today.
£294.00+7 next day!
Cant wait to go home

where was that from overclockers?

[Lightman]

where was that from overclockers?

DABS

[psyside]

Seems PCPER results are not accurate, according to AnandTech, they can't test this game with AA on ATi cards.




RE5:

Hey guys i order 2 5870 and looking at those charts i want to know something
those charts showing like 90% scaling and in other games its like 60% does that mean driver issue and in future we will see amazing scaling like with 4890or the games are the problem ? also if someone here has 5870 in crossfire please post your benchmarks, thanks!

[bro20000]

Just ordered 2 Asus ATI Radeon HD 5870 1024MB GDDR5! Cant wait!

[Jamesrt2004]

Hey guys i order 2 5870 and looking at those charts i want to know something
those charts showing like 90% scaling and in other games its like 60% does that mean driver issue and in future we will see amazing scaling like with 4890or the games are the problem ? also if someone here has 5870 in crossfire please post your benchmarks, thanks!

yeah will be poo drivers atm thats all buddy

[psyside]

Ok thanks! really hoping to see bigger Crysis numbers,the reason why i get this 2 babies as many others

[gurneyhck]

Techpowerup review got updated with HD5850 CF results: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...ossFire/2.html
quote:
We simulated the performance of the HD 5850 by taking our HD 5870, reducing the clock speeds and disabling two SIMDs, which results in exactly the same performance as HD 5850.

Looks like a very attractive combination, 400euro's for 5850CF. That is not even 100euro's more than 1 HD5870!

[BenchZowner]

4870x2 = 5870

In some games it is, in some games the 5870 blows the 4870X2 out of the water and in some games the 5870 lags behind the 4870X2.

5870 is like two 4870 cores.

I haven't checked out any architectural diagrams, well nothing about it yet because I don't have a working internet connection at my place the last few days, and even if I did time is simply not there for me atm.

How else do you explain 4870x2 being faster by up to 45%?? [EDIT: typo... its 42%] Magic?
BTW: 230GB/s vs 153GB/s = 49% more - coincidence?

1. I won't make any assumptions now, so I'll let it be for the moment, and come back when I finally get my internet back and check the technical stuff.

2. I on the other side certainly know all about CF and the way it works ( technically not just practically ), and I repeat myself ( yet again )

The real & practical memory bandwidth of the 4870X2 is 115Gbp/s ( GB/s = GigaBytes per second, the VGA memory bandwidth you see and hear about is measured in GigaBits per second, you need to divide that number by 8 to get GigaBytes per second ).
Each GPU Core has a 256bit wide BUS connection with 1GB of GDDR5-3600 memory, providing it with 115Gbps of data each second.
Unfortunately the way CF & SLI work both GPU's "memories" carry the same data.

3. A nice way to check for memory bandwidth bottleneck would be getting a 4870X2 & a 5870 and:

1. Reducing the 4870X2 memory clock to lower the VGA's bandwidth and checking the results in various games and settings ( Detail settings, and AA/AF on & off )

2. Overclocking & downclocking the 5870's memory and checking again in various games at various resolutions & settings ( details & AA/AF ).

[Ketzer7]

I'm kinda bummed out to not see any 5870 Tri-Fire numbers yet

I mean it supposedly supports it, so where are the sites that would try it to give us those results?

In all reality, I'm sure sample cards are in short enough supply that no site got more than two to test with, but I'd still like to see me some maxed out 2560x1600 numbers with 3x 5870s

[Farinorco]

Techpowerup review got updated with HD5850 CF results: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...ossFire/2.html
quote:
We simulated the performance of the HD 5850 by taking our HD 5870, reducing the clock speeds and disabling two SIMDs, which results in exactly the same performance as HD 5850.

Looks like a very attractive combination, 400euro's for 5850CF. That is not even 100euro's more than 1 HD5870!

In that review, the average gains over HD5870 with a HD5850 CF @1920x1200 is +36%. 100€ out of 300-350€ are 33%-29% (respectively), so it's a similar (slightly better) value in terms of performance to price. BUT with a worse idle power, worse performance/W, worse framerate distribution, and all the other inconveniences of going dual GPU instead of single GPU (including in this case the need of 2x PCI-E x16).

It's not a bad way of getting more performance without decreasing the performance/price value, but it's not a bargain too.

[gurneyhck]

I'm kinda bummed out to not see any 5870 Tri-Fire numbers yet

I mean it supposedly supports it, so where are the sites that would try it to give us those results?

In all reality, I'm sure sample cards are in short enough supply that no site got more than two to test with, but I'd still like to see me some maxed out 2560x1600 numbers with 3x 5870s

http://www.hardware.info/nl-NL/produ...le_CrossFireX/

But i doubt it is usefull, as the CPU used is running stock speeds

[Gamer]

Cards arrived in one day from the UK, now that's fast.

Benchmarks later next week, no cpu yet.

[Broken]

http://www.hardware.info/nl-NL/produ...le_CrossFireX/

But i doubt it is usefull, as the CPU used is running stock speeds

Actually it is. That Vantage score is what I got with two overclocked 4870X2's with a BFG Physx card and i7 920 at 4.0Ghz....

[LaMpiR]

Cards arrived in one day from the UK, now that's fast.

Benchmarks later next week, no cpu yet.

[eric66]

how about clocking nobody bought asus yet ? cause i want to see some voltage action

[jfromeo]

Is it possible to Quad-Crossfire 4x5870?

What are the factors that allow a Quad-CF/SLI? Motherboard, graphic card drivers support...?

I ask it because I was shocked to see only GTX285 Classified support 4-way SLI, no other GTX285 brand. What does make it so unique?

[Lightman]

I'm up and running now!
Just needed to take all the parts from my Thremaltake Soprano and put them on desk for my new card

It is looong

OK restarting to finalize driver install ...

[lithpiperpilot]

Just got back from class, and installing my Asus 5870 now. Got it in (GOD D#$% is that thing big compared to my 8800gts. It takes up 4 of my sata slots on my p5k deluxe. I am installing drivers right now, and will do some testing asap.

[webwilli]

no XP-Driver yet?



http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles...icsdriver.aspx

[Lightman]

Drivers on disk included with card is old (8.65) so best is to download newest one directly from AMD page:

http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles...icsdriver.aspx

Good 113MB ...

[webwilli]

RC7 Driver (AMD have RC6)

and with XP

http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=do...0&prod_no=1908