The ATI Radeon 5XXX Thread

[unkn0wnhacka]

Newegg did offer me a return for this 295 so maybe i could just save a little money :P

[hurleybird]

If they offered you a return go for it, if not don't bother.

[jfromeo]

Those scores arent looking SUPER great up against the GTX 295 like i previously thought.. should i even bother getting a 5870 if i got a 295?

Not worth it, imho.

Unless you play on a 30" LCD @ 2560x1600 with 8xAA 16xAF, then the 5870 2GB/5870x2 2GB would be a nice buy.

[GoldenTiger]

I run 2560x1600, looks like Xfire scaling is GREAT there with two 5870's, but I'm not sure I want to shell out for two... really was looking to only buy one . Sounds like the 5850's won't show just yet either from that review's google translation, leaving my option of two 5850's closed =\.

[oc550be]

5850 comes with Win7 (1 month after 5870)

[cky2k6]

I don't trust toms for one second, and even if it is on the right track, they're probably using poor drivers. There's no way 4870x2 can beat a 5870, even if 5870 has higher image quality or whatnot. 4870 cf and and lower clockspeeds cannot compare with a card that should be faster than 4890cf, which is already faster than 4870x2 by a nice margin. I'm waiting for anand's review...

[Kylzer]

5850 comes with Win7 (1 month after 5870)

Link or it didn't happen

but faik there launched on the same day

followed by the HD 57xx on windows 7 release.

[GoldenTiger]

I guess we'll see... I'm trying to decide between 1 5870, 2 5850's, or 2 5870's depending on what's available/not. I ended up canceling my order for now for the single 5870 since I am unsure of what setup I want, and some of it depends on what's available.

[fellix_bg]

Is it me, or the great majority of the performance tests in that review are done with AF turned off?!

[Kylzer]

Is it me, or the great majority of the performance tests in that review are done with AF turned off?!

Na

if you look down they have AA on also.

[jaredpace]

i noticed AF off in a lot of tests too

did they take it down, not working for me...

edit: okay, it's back now

[GoldenTiger]

Yeah, it just got taken down... even in many of the tests with AA on, AF was off for some reason.

[oc550be]

Link or it didn't happen

but faik there launched on the same day

followed by the HD 57xx on windows 7 release.

I was sure I read somewhere about 5850... Can't find it anywhere now...

so I think you're right...

I just checked some previews and they all state 23th as launch date for both

sorry, my bad

Ps. I'm wating for 5850 also
but I'll wait a bit longer... for the price drop (I'm broke now & I bought a new GPU 4 months ago)

[Farinorco]

Great, first review! But I must say, I've not enough with this one. I'm with the others saying this: what's up with the AF off on so many tests? As I see it AF is at least as important as AA, probably more. I don't think the AF performance impact should be ignored this way in a review.

On the other hand, I love those power consumption measures: ~50W less than a GTX285 idle, wow! And ~25W less load! Not bad at all for a card ~50% more performant...

I don't like much the Tom's reviews, but if those preliminar results are seen again in the following reviews, this card is a great, great product. Awesome product if you ask me. Lovely. Let's see in other reviews. I'd like to know the OC headroom also, and with voltage tweaking due to the Volterra (but probably this is too much to ask for those kind of reviews).

Those scores arent looking SUPER great up against the GTX 295 like i previously thought.. should i even bother getting a 5870 if i got a 295?

I think that if you're a dual GPU user you shouldn't expect a change to a single GPU from the next generation to be a worthy change performance wise. It's kinda hoping that changing your high end card to a value card from the next generation is going to improve your performance (for example, 3870->4670 or 4870->5670). Power consumption and heat, or performance/price value in the time of launch are completely different things, of course, but performance wise...

Performance wise if you expect to have an improvement, you should be aiming to a card of the same market segment than yours: HD5870 X2, or a HD5870 CF.

That said, I don't see the need to change a GTX295. But I'm not the kind of people who changes hw that fast...

[TheSynth]

I found a deactivated Asus 5870 on Newegg. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-346-_-Product

[Mr. K6]

I already sold my GTX295 in anticipation, can't say I'm disappointed . Despite playing at 2560x1600, I might just grab the 5870 1GB and be done with it. This HD 4350 is killing me and I can't wait for the 2GB versions (what's the ETA on them anyway?).

[hurleybird]

Toms hardware gave some pretty freaky results. About equal to the GTX 295, but sometimes slower than the 4870X2, and a few times faster than GTX 285 SLI. This card looks like a beast, for sure, a very inconsistent beast.

[Sh1tyMcGee]

ATI cards are generally very inconsistent. Because some games are nvidias meant to be played, so those are faster because of codes nvidia provides to speed it up.

[tajoh111]

Performance per watt is what is the most impressive. OBR and Benchzoner were right on the dot, generally slower than the gtx 295 but it can catch up to the 295 with enough resolution and enough AA enabled.

Performance doesn't impress me those that much because this would lose to cf4890s, because in half the cases its losing to cf4870s. Sure it could be drivers, but since this is rv7xx on steroids, I expected good performance from the get go.

However if a gt300 does exist I can see it slaughtering the 5870, and even if it is a couple hundred dollars more, it might be worth it.

[jaredpace]

I found a deactivated Asus 5870 on Newegg. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-346-_-Product

Theres your backplate. That asus looks nice too with just the simple logo & fan sticker.

[Fafeifa]

I can see the GT300 beat the 5870 because is still 3 months away and anything can happen. Although is going to cost you I'd be willing to pick up a 295 now for cheap I think to have a chance agains the GT300 it should at least be 150% more powerfull than the current GTX295

[prava]

http://www.sweclockers.com/articles_...id=6195&page=1

Another review fellows...they are coming slowly, but coming... I just wanna see one about the 5850!

[jaredpace]

and another

http://translate.google.ch/translate...hl=de&ie=UTF-8

[F.stop]

interesting what this thing can do, wonder whats the real world heat output of a single card. toasty ok or hot hot

[rkgriffin]

I am in the process of building a new rig and the only piece I don't have now is a video card. Been waiting a week for the 5850 but starting to think if it is worth $300 since I only game at max 1920x1200. Would picking up one of the current cheaper ATI or nVidia options be the best move?

I am starting to lean towards a 275 with a cheap physx card or a 4890. What do you guys think?