Lack of 'Xtreme' Keyboards on XtremeSystems

[werdwerdus]

i also have the deck legend ice. i have the original linear switch model instead of the newer tactile feedback model. it's very loud lol. but great as i play stepmania, if you are unfamiliar it's a rhythm game that you mash buttons. i also have the 82-key deck board, i really don't like it that much compared to the legend. it is about twice as loud, the layout is hard to get used to as it is missing keys and they are not in standard positions.. and it has problems typing certain combinations of more than 3 or 4 simultaneous keys (but only in certain keys and combinations, not generally). as far as backlight brightness goes, my legend is ice meaning blue leds and it's super bright. i only keep it on setting 1 (out of 0 through 7 settings) and it is bright enough for me. my 82 key deck is the red leds and they are WAY less bright! comparing them side by side, the red leds on MAX brightness level 7 are about as bright as level 2 or 3 on my blue led deck.

oh p.s. here is a REALLY old video i made to demonstrate the keyboard playing stepmania. man i was bad lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PTI3E70ml4

[AndrewZorn]

there "used to be" a bluetooth filco. i do not know if it was discontinued or just pulled from the us market. as the us market is a single store (last time i checked), it wouldnt be surprising.

[JaccoW]

@Werdwerdus: Yeah I've seen that one. It did give me a pretty good idea of the sound it produces.
I was thinking on making a video of mine to show the level of sound it produces. I am having difficulties finding a good comparison sound though. Something that everyone would know the loudness of and recognize at what volume they would have to set their speakers.

[prava]

I'm typing with a Cherry G3000-80LPCES (Black MX switches) and I absolutely love it. It doesn't have any fancy leds nor it's a small sized keyboard: it's just a black, normal (from the outside) keyboard, as it has to be. At the beginning it felt a little too strong to push the buttons softly but now using a membrane one plain sucks.

It could be compared as trying an SSD...once you get used to it, there is no coming back.

[AndrewZorn]

@Werdwerdus: Yeah I've seen that one. It did give me a pretty good idea of the sound it produces.
I was thinking on making a video of mine to show the level of sound it produces. I am having difficulties finding a good comparison sound though. Something that everyone would know the loudness of and recognize at what volume they would have to set their speakers.

wow, i was just thinking the same thing... a sound benchmark and reference.
but any answers you seek pretty much are already documented at geekhack.

[lowfat]

Neither my Model M nor my Steelseries 7G works properly when using a ps2 to usb adapter on my mac. Thinking about picking up the Realforce 87U now. It is native usb so hopefully the keys will function properly. Shame I can't find a seller in Canada though. Going to end up paying north of $300USD to get one up here.

[SoulsCollective]

Again, if anyone manages to find a split-half raised-middle ergonomic one, please do let me know. I have used a mechanical keyboard, and much preferred it, but by the same token I really can't type on a straight board any more.

[Particle]

Das Keyboard user here. I recently found out that I love mech boards!

[mattkosem]

No fans of the Fatal1ty keyboard? I've had mine for a few years now and love it as much as the day I bought it. It has a bit of an odd layout, but I love the the scissor-switch keys and short key press distance. It has "eluminX" backlighting but, TBQH, I never turn it on.

--Matt

[AndrewZorn]

Neither my Model M nor my Steelseries 7G works properly when using a ps2 to usb adapter on my mac. Thinking about picking up the Realforce 87U now. It is native usb so hopefully the keys will function properly. Shame I can't find a seller in Canada though. Going to end up paying north of $300USD to get one up here.

have you tried different adapters? they are NOT all the same. try a "blue cube".

id help you with the shipping thing, but itd probably be about that in the end anyway.

[FloofyFox]

Still a fan of my Deck 82. Takes some getting used to though... haha, whenever my friends try to use it they get all frustrated, but after adjusting to the layout, it's a really fun keyboard. Mouse & wasd proximity a plus when gaming, and it's got a skull replacement key... Come on! A skull!

[five]

Again, if anyone manages to find a split-half raised-middle ergonomic one, please do let me know. I have used a mechanical keyboard, and much preferred it, but by the same token I really can't type on a straight board any more.

not sure if you have seen, but there are a few (not sure if its the kind you want) in this thread http://www.overclock.net/computer-pe...ard-guide.html

never used it but you might want to check out (again, not sure if this style is of intrest to you) http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/advantage.htm

[NKrader]

where it will miss keystokes after about 120wpm

umm you type superfast!!

[AndrewZorn]

not me

[Xcel]

I couldn't go back to using 'normal' keyboards, flat keyboards are so much nicer. Here's mine

[Particle]

That's pretty shocking, to be honest. I don't know why anyone would willingly torture themselves with laptop keys when they don't have to! =P

The Das is pretty good, but it's buggy as all get out. Can't POST with it in, it kills other USB ports when on, and it transposes key presses when typing fast. I only type 75-80 WPM so I'm not sure how much it's effecting me, but it sure "seems" like I get it quite a bit. Going to try a Filco with Cherry blues in it later this week and see what's up.

[Particle]

I received the Filco Majestouch Tactile Click NKRO today that I ordered last weekend. This thing is beautiful! It's obviously superior to the Das. They both use Cherry blue switches, but this one is substantially quieter than the Das is. It's also about twice as heavy due to its quality construction. I think the base plate is made out of depleted uranium or lead or something. I'd originally planned to use the Das at work and use the Filco at home so that I could use a mechanical board at both places, but now I'm pretty sure I'm going to eBay the Das for a small loss fairly quickly and just buy another Filco. I'd highly recommend this thing!

[Blackstare]

Im using an IBM Model-M

[TJ TRICHEESE]

Did someone say XTREME, this is xtreme:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=23346

[lowfat]

Im using an IBM Model-M

Did you spray paint it? No offense but I think that the stock puke colour would look better than that.

[Particle]

No, the blue caps aren't standard. If you think it's ugly, don't buy them. I thought it was an interesting accent option as a gamer.

This thing makes absolute toast out of the Das Keyboard Professional, I have to say, after having used them both.

[AndrewZorn]

i like them, and think the red esc looks even better (an even more ridiculous bandwagon though, i admit)
i just could not stomach bothering PAYING so MUCH for them (on the HHKB/realforce they are $4-$5 a key...)

and it is funny you made the lead joke, there was a guy on geekhack that filled his logitech gamepad with lead to weigh it down after replacing all the dome switches with mechanical ones and high-quality keycaps.

Did you spray paint it? No offense but I think that the stock puke colour would look better than that.

it has been spraypainted (or modified somehow) as the only black model M is the M13 (the one with the trackpoint, i have one)
they do make black model M clones, unicomp keyboards, but they would not say IBM.

[cabbspapp]

No fans of the Fatal1ty keyboard? I've had mine for a few years now and love it as much as the day I bought it. It has a bit of an odd layout, but I love the the scissor-switch keys and short key press distance. It has "eluminX" backlighting but, TBQH, I never turn it on.

--Matt

I had one a long time ago. Sold it, the only time I deal with scissor keys is when I'm using a laptop.

I have a Filco Cherry MX Blue on the way to replace my G15.

[Rattle]

the world of high end keyboard is something I know little about. this thread is going to make me spend MONEY, i need a new KB and sick of the eclipses and things of that nature, i cant stand razer products and I cant get a g15 rev 1 sooo

guys that have used them and know, ALL I DO IS GAME, whats my best bet?

http://elitekeyboards.com/products.p...&pid=fkb104meb

whats the difference between this one and the higher prices ones on the site?

http://www.deckkeyboards.com/product...products_id=95

is this deck really that much better or worse?

[AndrewZorn]

for games you want a keyboard with NKRO... for the filcos, it is optional (a bit extra money) but all deck legends have it.

the only reason id want/suggest a deck legend is if you are interested in the tactile switches they offer. the tactility associated with cherry blue and brown, but with a stiffer spring like that of cherry black.

cant really suggest cherry blue for games. cherry brown is nice if you care for really light keys. cherry black seems the top choice for games-only, stiff keypresses with no click, but they are supposedly awful for typing. the clear, again, offered in the deck tactile is a little bit of both.