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    "Good Company" appreciation thread

    Hmm, I just felt like starting a little thread where we could mention those companies who have been giving us consistent, reliable products. Unlike the *cough* new mobos with cut traces *cough* chipsets that STILL have no locked pci *cough* mobos that make you go through 3 revisions before its right... Ok, so here's what I think would be safe bets for any overclockers rig:

    PC Power and Cooling - I haven't even owned one but next ps I purchase for a high end rig will be from them. They are built like tanks, give us all the sheer power we need, and have customer service that is friendly and will spend all the time with you that you need. And the best warranty of any ps manufacturer.

    AMD & Intel - well at least you can't go wrong with your cpu choice. Despite the fact that intel isn't moving forward as fast as I think they could/should and amd was late out the door w/ the a64, there's no denying that now is a good time to be an overclocker as far as cpu's are concerned. 100% overclocks on axp 1700's, great bang for the buck bartons, and 2.4c's that will overclock higher than anything on the market. For a minute I can almost forget about amd locking multipliers or Intel dropping the ball with prescott. Almost.

    Winbond - BH-5!!! Need I say more. Just think if everyone else were as consistent at producing a quality part. As soon as you see that sweet lable on the ram chip, you can almost rest assured that it won't be the bottleneck in your system. Even before this though they still produced quality chips.

    Seagate - As a tech at a community college, I replace alot of hard drives and they seem to almost always be WD's. I rarely run across a seagate (granted we don't have nearly as many) but the ones I have at home run great. I love my 15k.3, fast, very cool running, and even quieter than some "other" brand's 7200 rpm drives. Seagate is always leading the field in scsi and their ide drives just seem solid. Thumbs up from me.

    Little River Waterblocks - Now these are waterblocks done right! Cathar single handedly reformed the waterblock scene and now has his newest block that not even swiftech or danger den can touch. No leaks, no unflast bases, just a lot of hand-lapped luvin! If you can get your hands on one you won't regret it!

    I'll explain why I there are some that I was tempted to put up but didn't. I have heard great things about asus boards but since I don't own any I'll leave others to comment here. However, they would rank high on my list of mobo manufacturers I would buy from in the future considering all the issues coming from others lately. ATI has been hot lately no doubt. But I think they need to keep it up a little bit longer before I would go out of my way to commend them. There are still issues with some of their stuff but at least they've picked up the ball where nvidia dropped it. That's all I can think of at the moment. Feel free to add your own.
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    ATI gets my props

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    kingston gets mine. also Epox.

    great experiences wiht both, especially the Epox techs, ive bugged them alot, and they are always willing to get an answer even if it means finding another person who will know better than them, same thing happened with kingston. A+ to them both.
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    Maybe GLXcess OpenGL benchmark coming out in Jan '04? here's a screenshot. I think he should think about having his own "ORB".
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    With the exception of PC Power & Cooling and Little River Waterblocks(Who I've never heard of) all the companies mentioned have had their fair share of ups and downs, that I know of, so none are consistent.

    But I'd like to add Thermalright to the very small, consistently good, list. Thermalright have been the leaders in the air cooling market since the SK6, and they still are on both the AMD and Intel fronts. You only have to look on Overclockers.com to see that 5 or 6 of the top AMD heatsinks are all Thermalrights

    I'm looking forward to GLExcess 2! I uninstalled all the Futuremark benchmarks a few weeks ago after 3DMark2001 refused to work on my super tweaked WinXP install after it claimed DX8.1 wasn't installed, when infact I have DX9b installed!
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    PCP&C was good to me, they did screw up the credit card thing but that was cuz my accoutn was empty and ect ect, they contacted me by phone twice to make sure the order was ok and my credit card was ok, not just an automated email.
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    Originally posted by Walrusbonzo
    With the exception of PC Power & Cooling and Little River Waterblocks(Who I've never heard of) all the companies mentioned have had their fair share of ups and downs, that I know of, so none are consistent.

    But I'd like to add Thermalright to the very small, consistently good, list. Thermalright have been the leaders in the air cooling market since the SK6, and they still are on both the AMD and Intel fronts. You only have to look on Overclockers.com to see that 5 or 6 of the top AMD heatsinks are all Thermalrights

    I'm looking forward to GLExcess 2! I uninstalled all the Futuremark benchmarks a few weeks ago after 3DMark2001 refused to work on my super tweaked WinXP install after it claimed DX8.1 wasn't installed, when infact I have DX9b installed!
    I second this. Currently running an SLK-900a @ 1.85Vcore 220x11 barton @36 celcius

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    OMG how could I leave out thermalright?! I've owned the sk6, sk6+, sk7, ax7, slk800, and alx800. I love them all - absolutely top notch and fair prices, well, at least compared to swiftech. And even if the bases aren't perfect, I don't mind lapping them.
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    Originally posted by Walrusbonzo
    I'm looking forward to GLExcess 2! I uninstalled all the Futuremark benchmarks a few weeks ago after 3DMark2001 refused to work on my super tweaked WinXP install after it claimed DX8.1 wasn't installed, when infact I have DX9b installed!
    That's wierd. A friend of mine just told me he couldn't get 3dmark 2k1 to run because it said he didnt' have dx8.1 as well.
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    tell your friend to install newer built of 3DMark which is 330 i believe. he has problems because he's using 320 built.

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    Epox and Western Digital

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    amd definatley! (except for the tbred-a )

    ati , just think of where they were just 3 years ago and where they are now!

    fortron fsp group power supplies! surpreme quality for 50% of other high quality psus!

    asus, not always the best ocers but great quality!

    gainward , expensive but amazing quality and ocability!

    quaddamage, no offense , but that screenshot looks bad and more like its a few years old! no details and very unsharp and blurry low quality textures on most parts...

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    I'd kind of like to add ocz to the list. Aside from producing good competitive ram modules that often overclock quite well, I really respect how they geniunly seem to care about the community, even though the community is often shunning them or making rude comments about their past. Quite the comeback.

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    I've had a mixed experience with Epox but I think they are overall one of the better mobo manufacturers. I love how they give you all the voltage options straight up in *gasp* rev 1 of the board! I loved my old kt333 w/ 3.2 vdimm. Made full use of that Now western digital I don't like. I replace them by the dozens at work and the one that I do have at home whines so loud I can even hear it over all my case fans.
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    Originally posted by Drisler
    Epox and Western Digital
    Ditto ! Nothing but great experiences with both for me. MSI for video cards as well (but definitely not for mobo's)

    Oh yeah... Cant forget Mushkin or ATI either.

    Also good Nvidia 1999-2002

    On the down side (and just about as lousy as it gets)... Nvidia 2002-2003
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    i'm going to have to say Sapphire, who makes cards that are, in my opinion, superior OC'ers to the BBA (look at my sapphire nonpro with 410mhz ram, no vmod).

    i also really liked 3dfx, but we all konw that story.
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    ATI, Nvidia ( Nforce2) and Little river ....... these guys are way ahead of the competition.........
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    enermax has also served me without troubles

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    Originally posted by lalPOOO
    I'd kind of like to add ocz to the list. Aside from producing good competitive ram modules that often overclock quite well, I really respect how they geniunly seem to care about the community, even though the community is often shunning them or making rude comments about their past. Quite the comeback.

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    I totally have to agree with this one. If some people would just give them half a chance now a days. I have talked with a few of the guys in the office and they are all top notch, and the customer service is excellant. I know this through first hand knowledge. I work in the customer service field and trust me when I say OCZ is a dying breed. Not many retailers care as much as they do about their customers.

    Abit get's my thumbs down for their complete oppisite of OCZ. They don't know what customer service means!

    Also no matter what people say about Nanotherm I still say they are cool. I have recieved nothing but great info and attention from Scott, and again to me the customer service is top's.

    DTEK customs is another A plus manufacture. Danny mad props to you!

    Thats all I can think of right now.
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    Although i've had two downs with OCZ's products, i give them props for their customer support. As Saaya mentioned, Fortron/Sparkle has a great product for an awsome price....
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    Swiftech!

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    i really have the opposite feel for OCZ(more of late) corsair for sure and mushkin. When kingston can provide the same ram for hugely less of the cost, 1 gig khx3000 £150, 1 gig khx3200 £180 muskin pc3200 level 2 £240, pc3500 level 2 £250. Likewise OCZ limited ed is very expensive. I really dispise companies releasing the same product, that does Not outperform the cheaper company, that jump on a bandwagon like obtaining bh-5 and selling it for far more than they should. Kingston get major major credit for also securing the ram but having the integrety to say, we know you want it, its very limited stock and out of production, so we'll charge you a little more for it, but ALSO garentee better timings, and still be way cheaper than ocz/corsair/mushkin. Not to mention buffalo/adata/and looking to kingston value ram when you could get bh-5 on it.

    Swiftech, might not be top performing waterblocks, when you get one new, the packaging, the looks, the finish, the kit, the instructions, its just an a-grade product that i feel extremely safe using, Gabe is also very quick to help you out with anything you want to bug him with. dangerden for providing non profit very cheap international del so us peeps can get some also decent performing, quality, reliable kit on teh cheap.

    Errm, abit jsut mess everything up, and again i'll point out, the an7, and previous motherboards can give 3.2vdimm no problem, why on why oh why are Max boards so much more, a 4channel sata insteada 2, thats a $10 more chip(maybe less). routing extra usb 2, firewire to atx back plate is cheaper, as serial ata routing is gone and you don't pay for the included pci slot brackets for extra ports. Then they force you to pay more for a useless shroud(i mean, if you're watercooling or phase change, you won't get hot air over mosfets anwyay. Then ade in secure IDE because the company that made it couldn't flog it any other way. That kinda buisness tactic disturbs me greatly.

    ANyway, companies we like, asus seem top notch, amd, intel of course. have to say, i like the way amd are doing things, and i like MS, i hat the price of the OS, and licencing one per comp was crap, but hey, i love windows, love what i can do on a computer cos of it. NEC are great ,screens, lcd's, top notch.

    gigabyte, i can't decide, i had such problems withthe kt400/400a that i went off them, but the sinxp and the k8npro are really pretty fantastic, value wise they, and MSI are pushing intergration and extras into making boards offer more value.

    i've run out.

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    Hehe, yea, they should join in. Kingston has been racking up a good number of votes. I do think the price is right on their ram and it seems like their support is very good. Now I know this is not a manufacturer but in my mind they are absolutely synonomous with computer hardware - NEWEGG!!! That place has got service and they got a customer for life in me.
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    yeah im really happy with my khx3500 (bh5) as well! 80$ for a 256mb stick and it clocks to almost 250 with 2-2-2 ...but i feel like its more like winbond did some nice chips with the khx than kingston did with soldering on their sticks and selling them...

    oh and swiftech is def a great company as well! while their latest waterchiller is extremely overpriced (300$+) all their other products have a great price/performence rate and the quality of all of their products are perfect! i wouldnt know what to improve on any of their heatsinks/waterblocks at all...

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