[Review] Indigo Xtreme vs. AS5, MX-2, IC Diamond, Shin-Etsu X23-7783D

[CedricFP]

Picked up some last night for my new i7 build. Just waiting on it to arrive. Will let you know.

[ptrout]

Well F#$% me, tried to install it today, and ended up frying my vid card.

When you have a existing loop with CPU, NB, VID, its a very bad to run the system without the pump running.

Just be careful to isolate the CPU in its own loop to do this...............to me its a pain in the ass, and Ill probably go back to IC diamond........

dead 4890

[Wezly]

Wow, I was just looking at this stuff! Thanks for the great review!

I'll be ordering this for when I put my GTZ SE on.

[Waterlogged]

Now available @ P-PC's

LGA1366 kit

LGA775 kit

and Petra's

LGA1366 kit

LGA775 kit

[CedricFP]

Well F#$% me, tried to install it today, and ended up frying my vid card.

When you have a existing loop with CPU, NB, VID, its a very bad to run the system without the pump running.

Just be careful to isolate the CPU in its own loop to do this...............to me its a pain in the ass, and Ill probably go back to IC diamond........

dead 4890

Yes that was a consideration.

Sorry about your misfortune - that really is annoying. I hope the RMA process goes smoothly (if you decide to go down that route).

I had been wondering about that when considering my next build, as I want to run my loops in series but I guess I shall have to have separate loops now.

EDIT: For others in a similar predicament, I've just thought of a good solution.

1. Use Koolance QDC's on your GPU block.
2. Install In-Ex with the GPU on air cooler (but the GPU block hooked up to your loop).
3. Power down after installation, remove QDC's, install block to GFX card without having to hover over your motherboard.
4. Fasten QDC's.
5. Good to go.


It's not exactly a genius breakthrough, but it is certainly the way I'll be doing it.

[Adhmuz]

Just ordered both kits LGA1366 for me and LGA775 for my friend should be here next week. I'm running air so it will not be an issue. For you liquid guys with your crazy loops, do you not have access to a spare video card you can slap in for the "break in" procedure, borrow a friends if need be thats what I would do and leave you GPU in the loop just off to the side (if possible). Just my two cents, I'll let you know how my results turn out.

Wow, first post!

[Vapor]

Well F#$% me, tried to install it today, and ended up frying my vid card.

When you have a existing loop with CPU, NB, VID, its a very bad to run the system without the pump running.

Just be careful to isolate the CPU in its own loop to do this...............to me its a pain in the ass, and Ill probably go back to IC diamond........

dead 4890

That sucks man

How long was your pump off for? On water reflow really only takes ~15 seconds....I left my pump off for longer just for proof of point, but it only need 15 seconds (20sec tops).

Either way, bummer to hear that...I've killed my share of GPUs and it really sucks when it's a GPU for at 24/7 system.

Now available @ P-PC's

LGA1366 kit

LGA775 kit

and Petra's

LGA1366 kit

LGA775 kit

Saw the P-PCs posting yesterday, glad Petra's got in on it too

Just ordered both kits LGA1366 for me and LGA775 for my friend should be here next week. I'm running air so it will not be an issue. For you liquid guys with your crazy loops, do you not have access to a spare video card you can slap in for the "break in" procedure, borrow a friends if need be thats what I would do and leave you GPU in the loop just off to the side (if possible). Just my two cents, I'll let you know how my results turn out.

Wow, first post!

Great solution to the GPU problem....don't want the GPU to die? Don't run it. I was trying to think of a way to get around it, but your idea is easily the best

Will be interested to hear how long reflow takes for you on air...I only had 3 installs to test and all of them went on water.

[genec57]

Vapor,
When I did my installation(s) I ran my system with 2 4870s in Crossfire water cooled) for well over 20 sec with no ill effects and I have no idea how hot they got.
For the future it makes sense to disconnect the video cards prior to reflow. Since I don't have a spare card the question presents - would it be safe to simply time the water off to say, 30 sec without video. Obviously, you would not be able to observe temps during reflow.

This poses a real problem for folk installing an already expensive Thermal compound if it would be necessary to acquire an extra video card.
It would be good to know just how much at risk water cooled video cards really are.

[ptrout]

Just to clarify, I ran it more like 30 seconds to 45 seconds, waiting for the temp drop....

And I am now wondering if its any kind of thermal shock, i only noticed my error, when I heard something from the vid block, steam like fog on the tubes. The block was hot to the touch, I mean scalding hot. I turned on the pump immediately, and temp dropped immediately, but wondering now if problem happened becasue it went from super hot to cold in seconds.

I had a spare vid card, too bad, cause it was such a hassle to sperate it out of the loop for the install.

New build/air is easier, retro is a bit more difficult for WC ppl

[dejanh]

Just came back from Europe and my Indigo Xtreme has arrived. I ordered two packages, 4 mounts total. I will not have a chance to try it out though for a few days at least (or a few weeks at worst ) because I am going to be moving very soon.

Can't wait to try it though!

Does anyone thing there will be issues with the re-flow process considering that I am water cooling the whole EVGA Classified 759 board as well and all is hooked up in one loop at the moment. Maybe 120mm fans blowing over the EK full-cover block are not a bad idea while doing the re-flow since I really do not want to burn the board. Thoughts?

[rge]

I decided to ignore removing mb and cpu to mount indigo...for watercooling I didnt see point.

1) set whole computer on side so cpu socket exactly level.
2) cleaned cpu and wb with provided solvent (nice high btw)
3) Then applied per instructions in steps 6-10.
4) attached waterblock.
5) unplugged pump.
6) used air cooled gpu, pushed watercooled gpu to side.
7) started computer and ran prime for 2-3 mins for reflow, dip happened quickly, but just made sure.

Whole procedure took just under an hour, including reading instructions, could do it second time in ~15 mins, not as bad as reading instructions would leave you to believe.

Pic just before putting on waterblock. (my i950 is lapped, which btw changed temps exactly 0 C)


Best of 4 recent mounts of mx2 using current 4.4ghz OC, 1.34 vcore, and exact same prime large fft on die.
ambient 24.2C
water temp 28.8C
cpu core avg 69.6 or 70.1C corrected for 24.7C ambients.

indigo xtreme mount
ambient 24.7C
water temp 29.45C
Cpu core avg 67.5C at 24.7C ambient

So my current OC/settings got 2.6C better with indigo xtreme than best of 4 mounts with mx2.

I wish I had ran some data at 4.6 to 4.7 OC settings, was planning on it when got stuff, but forgot.

Funny thing you can collect 20 mins of data or 5 mins or 2 mins, (after 15 mins load to reach steady state), and you get same exact same temp within ~.1 C. But here is short piece data:

best mx2 mount (2 days old after burn in)

DATE	TIME	MHz	CPU_0	CPU_1	CPU_2	CPU_3	GPU	LOAD%
9/11/2009	21:21:01	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:02	4416.03	70	71	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:04	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:04	4416.03	70	71	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:06	4416.03	71	72	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:06	4416.03	70	72	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:08	4416.03	71	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:08	4416.03	69	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:10	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:10	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:12	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:12	4416.03	70	71	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:14	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:15	4416.03	69	71	70	63	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:16	4416.03	70	72	69	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:17	4416.03	70	71	69	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:18	4416.03	70	72	70	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:19	4416.03	70	71	70	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:20	4416.03	69	71	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:21	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:22	4416.03	70	71	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:23	4416.03	70	71	70	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:24	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:25	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:26	4416.03	70	72	70	68	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:27	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:28	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:29	4416.03	70	71	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:30	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:31	4416.03	70	71	70	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:32	4416.03	70	71	70	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:33	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:34	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:35	4416.03	70	72	70	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:36	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:37	4416.03	70	71	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:38	4416.03	69	71	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:39	4416.03	70	72	70	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:40	4416.03	70	72	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:41	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:42	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:43	4416.03	70	72	70	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:44	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:45	4416.03	70	73	70	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:46	4416.03	70	72	70	68	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:47	4416.03	70	71	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:48	4416.03	70	72	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:49	4416.03	69	72	70	68	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:50	4416.03	70	72	70	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:51	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:52	4416.03	68	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:53	4416.03	69	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:54	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:55	4416.03	70	71	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:56	4416.03	70	71	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:57	4416.03	70	71	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:58	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:21:59	4416.03	69	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:00	4416.03	69	71	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:01	4416.03	69	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:02	4416.03	70	72	70	68	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:03	4416.03	70	72	65	65	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:04	4416.03	69	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:05	4416.03	70	72	65	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:06	4416.03	70	71	70	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:07	4416.03	70	71	70	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:08	4416.03	71	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:09	4416.03	69	71	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:10	4416.03	70	71	70	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:11	4416.03	69	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:12	4416.03	70	71	70	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:13	4416.03	69	72	70	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:14	4416.03	69	72	70	68	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:15	4416.03	70	71	69	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:17	4416.03	70	72	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:18	4416.03	70	71	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:19	4416.03	70	71	69	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:20	4416.03	70	71	70	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:21	4416.03	70	72	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:22	4416.03	70	72	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:23	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:24	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:25	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:26	4416.03	70	71	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:27	4416.03	70	72	70	62	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:28	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:29	4416.03	70	72	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:30	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:31	4416.03	70	71	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:32	4416.03	70	72	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:33	4416.03	70	72	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:34	4416.03	70	71	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:35	4416.03	70	72	70	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:36	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:37	4416.03	70	72	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:38	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:39	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:40	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:41	4416.03	70	71	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:42	4416.03	70	71	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:43	4416.03	70	71	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:44	4416.03	70	72	71	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:45	4416.03	70	72	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:46	4416.03	70	72	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:47	4416.03	70	72	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:48	4416.03	69	72	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:49	4416.03	70	71	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:50	4416.03	69	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:51	4416.03	69	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:52	4416.03	69	71	70	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:53	4416.03	70	72	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:54	4416.03	70	72	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:55	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:56	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:57	4416.03	70	71	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:58	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:22:59	4416.03	70	71	70	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:00	4416.03	69	72	71	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:01	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:02	4416.03	70	71	71	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:03	4416.03	70	71	71	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:04	4416.03	69	72	70	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:05	4416.03	69	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:06	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:07	4416.03	70	71	70	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:08	4416.03	70	71	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:09	4416.03	70	72	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:10	4416.03	70	71	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:11	4416.03	70	71	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:12	4416.03	69	71	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:13	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:14	4416.03	70	71	70	68	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:15	4416.03	69	72	70	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:16	4416.03	71	72	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:17	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:18	4416.03	70	72	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:19	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:20	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:21	4416.03	70	71	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:22	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:23	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:24	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:25	4416.03	70	72	70	68	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:26	4416.03	70	72	71	68	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:27	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:28	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:30	4416.03	70	69	70	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:30	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:32	4416.03	70	72	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:33	4416.03	70	71	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:34	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:35	4416.03	70	71	70	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:36	4416.03	69	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:37	4416.03	70	71	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:38	4416.03	70	71	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:39	4416.03	68	72	71	63	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:40	4416.03	70	71	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:41	4416.03	70	72	70	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:42	4416.03	70	72	71	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:43	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:44	4416.03	70	72	71	68	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:45	4416.03	70	71	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:46	4416.03	70	71	71	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:47	4416.03	69	71	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:48	4416.03	70	72	71	68	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:49	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:50	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:51	4416.03	70	71	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:52	4416.03	70	70	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:53	4416.03	70	72	70	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:54	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:55	4416.03	70	72	70	66	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:56	4416.03	70	72	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:57	4416.03	70	71	71	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:58	4416.03	70	71	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:23:59	4416.03	70	72	70	67	38	100
9/11/2009	21:24:00	4416.03	70	72	70	66	38	100
						69.61723164	28.8	40.81723164

indigo mount

DATE	TIME	MHz	CPU_0	CPU_1	CPU_2	CPU_3	GPU	LOAD%
9/11/2009	23:19:23	4416.04	68	69	68	65	39	100
9/11/2009	23:19:24	4416.04	68	69	69	65	39	100
9/11/2009	23:19:25	4416.04	69	70	69	65	39	100
9/11/2009	23:19:26	4416.04	68	69	69	65	39	100
9/11/2009	23:19:27	4416.04	68	70	69	65	39	100
9/11/2009	23:19:28	4416.04	68	70	69	65	39	100
9/11/2009	23:19:29	4416.04	69	70	69	64	39	100
9/11/2009	23:19:30	4416.04	68	69	69	65	38	100
9/11/2009	23:19:31	4416.04	68	70	68	65	39	100
9/11/2009	23:19:32	4416.04	69	69	69	65	39	100
9/11/2009	23:19:33	4416.04	69	70	69	65	39	100
9/11/2009	23:19:34	4416.04	69	69	69	65	39	100
9/11/2009	23:19:35	4416.04	68	70	69	65	39	100
9/11/2009	23:19:36	4416.04	68	70	68	65	39	100
9/11/2009	23:19:37	4416.04	68	70	69	65	39	100
9/11/2009	23:19:38	4416.04	69	70	69	64	39	100
9/11/2009	23:19:39	4416.04	68	69	69	64	39	100
9/11/2009	23:19:40	4416.04	69	69	69	64	39	100
9/11/2009	23:19:41	4416.04	68	70	68	64	39	100
9/11/2009	23:19:42	4416.04	68	69	69	64	39	100
9/11/2009	23:19:43	4416.04	68	70	69	65	39	100
9/11/2009	23:19:44	4416.04	68	70	69	65	39	100
9/11/2009	23:19:45	4416.04	68	70	69	65	39	100
9/11/2009	23:19:46	4416.04	68	69	69	65	39	100
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9/11/2009	23:19:48	4416.04	67	69	69	65	38	100
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9/11/2009	23:19:53	4416.04	69	69	69	65	39	100
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9/11/2009	23:19:56	4416.04	67	69	69	65	38	100
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9/11/2009	23:19:58	4416.04	68	70	69	65	39	100
9/11/2009	23:19:59	4416.04	68	69	69	65	39	100
9/11/2009	23:20:00	4416.04	68	70	69	65	39	100
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9/11/2009	23:20:02	4416.04	68	70	69	65	39	100
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9/11/2009	23:20:10	4416.04	68	70	68	65	39	100
9/11/2009	23:20:11	4416.04	68	70	69	65	39	100
9/11/2009	23:20:12	4416.04	68	70	69	65	39	100
9/11/2009	23:20:14	4416.04	68	70	69	65	38	100
9/11/2009	23:20:14	4416.04	68	70	69	65	38	100
9/11/2009	23:20:16	4416.04	68	70	69	65	39	100
9/11/2009	23:20:17	4416.04	68	70	69	65	39	100
9/11/2009	23:20:18	4416.04	68	69	69	64	39	100
9/11/2009	23:20:18	4416.04	68	69	69	63	39	100
9/11/2009	23:20:20	4416.04	68	69	69	65	39	100
9/11/2009	23:20:20	4416.04	68	69	69	65	39	100
9/12/2009	23:20:22	4416.04	68	69	68	63	38	100
9/12/2009	23:20:23	4416.04	68	69	69	63	38	100
9/12/2009	23:20:24	4416.04	68	69	69	64	38	100
9/12/2009	23:20:25	4416.04	68	69	69	64	38	100
9/12/2009	23:20:26	4416.04	68	68	69	64	38	100
9/12/2009	23:20:27	4416.04	67	69	68	63	38	100
9/12/2009	23:20:28	4416.04	67	69	68	64	38	100
9/12/2009	23:20:29	4416.04	68	69	68	64	38	100
9/12/2009	23:20:30	4416.04	68	69	67	64	38	100
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9/12/2009	23:20:33	4416.04	68	69	68	64	38	100
9/12/2009	23:20:34	4416.04	68	69	69	64	38	100
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9/12/2009	23:20:36	4416.04	68	69	67	64	38	100
9/12/2009	23:20:37	4416.04	68	69	68	64	38	100
9/12/2009	23:20:38	4416.04	68	69	67	64	38	100
9/12/2009	23:20:39	4416.04	67	69	68	63	38	100
9/12/2009	23:20:40	4416.04	68	67	69	63	38	100
9/12/2009	23:20:41	4416.04	68	69	69	64	38	100
9/12/2009	23:20:42	4416.04	68	70	69	64	38	100
9/12/2009	23:20:43	4416.04	68	69	68	63	38	100
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9/12/2009	23:20:45	4416.04	67	69	69	64	38	100
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9/12/2009	23:20:47	4416.04	68	68	67	63	38	100
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9/12/2009	23:20:49	4416.04	68	69	68	64	38	100
9/12/2009	23:20:50	4416.04	68	68	67	64	38	100
9/12/2009	23:20:51	4416.04	67	69	69	63	38	100
9/12/2009	23:20:52	4416.04	68	69	68	63	38	100
9/12/2009	23:20:53	4416.04	67	69	68	64	38	100
9/12/2009	23:20:54	4416.04	68	69	69	64	38	100
9/12/2009	23:20:55	4416.04	68	69	69	64	38	100
9/12/2009	23:20:56	4416.04	68	69	69	64	38	100
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9/12/2009	23:20:58	4416.04	68	69	69	64	38	100
9/12/2009	23:20:59	4416.04	68	69	68	64	38	100
9/12/2009	23:21:00	4416.04	68	70	68	64	38	100
9/12/2009	23:21:01	4416.04	67	68	68	64	38	100
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9/12/2009	23:21:03	4416.04	68	68	67	64	38	100
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9/12/2009	23:21:12	4416.04	68	69	67	64	38	100
9/12/2009	23:21:13	4416.04	68	68	69	64	38	100
9/12/2009	23:21:14	4416.04	68	69	69	63	38	100
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9/12/2009	23:21:20	4416.04	68	69	68	64	38	100
9/12/2009	23:21:21	4416.04	68	69	69	64	38	100
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9/12/2009	23:21:28	4416.04	68	70	69	64	38	100
9/12/2009	23:21:29	4416.04	68	69	69	64	38	100
9/12/2009	23:21:30	4416.04	68	69	68	63	38	100
9/12/2009	23:21:31	4416.04	68	70	69	64	38	100
9/12/2009	23:21:32	4416.04	68	70	69	64	38	100
9/12/2009	23:21:33	4416.04	68	69	68	64	38	100
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9/12/2009	23:21:35	4416.04	68	70	69	64	38	100
9/12/2009	23:21:36	4416.04	67	68	68	63	38	100
9/12/2009	23:21:37	4416.04	68	69	69	64	38	100
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9/12/2009	23:21:53	4416.04	67	70	68	64	38	100
9/12/2009	23:21:54	4416.04	68	69	69	64	38	100
9/12/2009	23:21:55	4416.04	68	69	68	64	38	100
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9/12/2009	23:21:57	4416.04	68	69	69	64	38	100
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9/12/2009	23:21:59	4416.04	68	69	69	64	38	100
9/12/2009	23:22:00	4416.04	68	69	68	64	38	100
						67.46955128	29.45	38.01955128

[skinnee]

thanks for sharing your results rge, sounds like you kept it as controlled as possible too... well done!

edit:
oh and the lapping, I'm starting to see less and less reason to lap.

[Utnorris]

Ordered mine yesterday, should have here Monday. Hoping to get it right the first time. How does it do under extreme cold?

[astrodanco]

So my current O.C. settings got 2.6C better with Indigo Xtreme than best of 4 mounts with MX2.

I notice that your Core#3 temperatures are consistently 4-5 Kelvin lower than your other three cores. In my case, my Core#2 temperatures are consistently 5 Kelvin higher than my other cores.

Does anyone know why this is? I mean, a consistent constant and rather large 5 Kelvin difference between one core and all the rest?

Does anyone know the physical positions of the cores on the Core I7 die and their corresponding core numbers?

[spikestabber]

My GTX 280 barely got warm to the touch without flow for the whole few minutes it took to do the reflow process.

I'm guessing that newer NVIDIA cards can drop core power far better while idle than ATI cards can.

The easiest way if you're concerned is just unplug the +12V leads from the video card and plug in an aircooled card in another slot. Should work.

First post also!

[Aberration]

Would it be possible to just keep the GPU in the loop but actually remove the card from the PCIe slot and disconnect the additional power connectors and let the computer sit at BIOS? There wont be any real load on the CPU, so maybe not enough load/heat generated for reheat? Would it just take longer for the reheat or would it just not reach a high enough temp?

I would love to try this stuff, but really concerned about the GPU, and I am not too keen about going through the hassle of putting it on air cooling. I have a GTX285, so maybe it will throttle down. But thats one hell of a gamble.

[Utnorris]

The gpu can remain in the loop even if you disconnect it from the MB. Just slap in a cheap PCIe card so you can plug in a monitor. For the reheat to work the CPU has to get hot and this is why they want you to run OCCT or prime. From what I have read it only takes about 30 seconds total and then you can plug your pump back in.

[rge]

thanks for sharing your results rge, sounds like you kept it as controlled as possible too... well done!

edit:
oh and the lapping, I'm starting to see less and less reason to lap.

Thanks, and yeah 2 I lapped with careful measurement before and after was 0 C different. If you do testing with lapping, would be interested to see what you get on yours.

@aberration, you can always test it first, boot up at stock gpu settings and underclock your i7 to 12x133 and .9vcore. Then wait til OS settles, start realtemp to watch cpu and gpu temps, can either set realtemp to do an orderly shutdown at certain temp, or just keep finger on power button and watch temps and pull plug on pump. It wont hurt cpu even if hits 100C. My guess is your gpu will take a long time to get hot. But if not shut it down, but that way you can test beforehand. I would do it on mine right now, but afraid I will reflow indigo again.

I knocked my molex plug loose on my ultra loop pump (back when had 2 loops and an 8800 ultra), 15 mins into benching cpu saw gpu temps were 80C...but waited until my cpu bench run was done, then figured out problem.

I would have left my gtx 295 in, but takes less than a minute to put air cooled gpu in slot (i have very old one), and just move wc one out of way. Or utnorris had better idea, unplug wc and put air cooled in another slot...though if you dont have old aircooled one lying around granted that wont work.

EDIT: curiousity was killing me. I booted my computer at 12x133, .9vcore, mem 6x, uncore 13x, qpi 18, turbo off, meant to turn HT off but forgot...didnt matter. Also meant to remove OC from gpu, forgot to do that as well, but that didnt matter either.

started speedfan, pulled plug on pump. Ran for 10 minutes with no pump. CPU temp will not rise that much even without flow at that low settings, only putting out 2-3W. over 10 minutes of no pump, gpu temps climbed from 36C slowly to 66C, despite 295gtx dual gpu still OCed. core 0 temps increased to 60s. Then plugged back in and shutdown. I think as long as you have nvidia gpu, (even though one of my cores was at 700 other was downclocked to 300 itself) you will be fine. See speedfan log of gpu (red) core 0 (green) temps.

BUT I would recommend on reflow, starting computer with pump on, so gpu gets no load, dont know if that matters or not. The pull plug on pump, and do reflow. That way gpu never gets loaded, and my gtx did not even blink at 66C max temp after 10 mins with no pump.



And realtemp log which started 30 seconds late, pump was unplugged from ~12:32 to 12:43

DATE	TIME	MHz	CPU_0	CPU_1	CPU_2	CPU_3	GPU	LOAD%
9/12/2009	12:33:01	1619.29	39	39	39	35	40	2.1
9/12/2009	12:33:02	1619.29	38	39	40	35	40	2.5
9/12/2009	12:33:03	1619.29	38	39	39	35	40	1.9
9/12/2009	12:33:04	1619.29	39	39	39	35	40	2.3
9/12/2009	12:33:05	1619.29	39	39	40	35	40	2.8
9/12/2009	12:33:06	1619.29	39	39	39	35	41	1.6
9/12/2009	12:33:07	1619.29	39	40	39	35	41	2.1
9/12/2009	12:33:08	1619.29	39	40	40	35	41	1.6
9/12/2009	12:33:09	1619.29	39	40	40	36	41	2
9/12/2009	12:33:10	1619.29	39	40	40	36	41	1.8
9/12/2009	12:33:11	1619.29	39	40	40	36	41	1.9
9/12/2009	12:33:12	1619.29	39	40	40	36	41	1.6
9/12/2009	12:33:13	1619.29	39	40	40	36	41	2
9/12/2009	12:33:14	1619.29	39	40	40	36	42	1.8
9/12/2009	12:33:15	1619.29	39	40	40	36	42	1.9
9/12/2009	12:33:16	1619.29	40	40	41	36	42	1.8
9/12/2009	12:33:17	1619.29	40	40	40	37	42	1.9
9/12/2009	12:33:18	1619.29	40	40	40	36	42	1.6
9/12/2009	12:33:19	1619.29	40	41	41	37	42	2.2
9/12/2009	12:33:20	1619.29	40	41	41	37	42	1.6
9/12/2009	12:33:21	1619.29	40	41	40	37	42	1.9
9/12/2009	12:33:22	1619.29	40	42	41	37	43	1.8
9/12/2009	12:33:23	1619.29	40	41	41	37	42	2
9/12/2009	12:33:24	1619.29	40	40	41	37	43	1.6
9/12/2009	12:33:25	1619.29	40	42	42	37	43	2.1
9/12/2009	12:33:26	1619.29	40	42	42	38	43	1.6
9/12/2009	12:33:27	1619.29	41	41	41	38	43	2
9/12/2009	12:33:28	1619.29	41	42	42	38	43	1.8
9/12/2009	12:33:29	1619.29	41	41	42	38	43	1.9
9/12/2009	12:33:30	1619.29	40	41	43	38	43	1.6
9/12/2009	12:33:31	1619.29	41	42	43	38	43	2.3
9/12/2009	12:33:32	1619.29	41	42	43	38	43	1.6
9/12/2009	12:33:33	1619.29	41	42	42	38	43	1.9
9/12/2009	12:33:34	1619.29	41	43	42	39	43	1.8
9/12/2009	12:33:35	1619.29	42	43	43	39	44	2
9/12/2009	12:33:36	1619.29	41	43	42	39	44	1.7
9/12/2009	12:33:37	1619.29	42	42	43	39	44	2.2
9/12/2009	12:33:38	1619.29	42	43	43	39	44	1.6
9/12/2009	12:33:39	1619.29	41	43	43	39	44	1.9
9/12/2009	12:33:40	1619.29	42	43	43	39	44	1.8
9/12/2009	12:33:41	1619.29	42	43	43	39	44	1.9
9/12/2009	12:33:42	1619.29	42	44	43	39	44	2.8
9/12/2009	12:33:43	1619.29	42	43	43	40	44	7.4
9/12/2009	12:33:44	1619.29	43	43	44	39	44	1.6
9/12/2009	12:33:45	1619.29	43	43	43	39	45	2.1
9/12/2009	12:33:46	1619.29	43	43	43	40	45	1.6
9/12/2009	12:33:47	1619.29	43	44	44	39	45	2.1
9/12/2009	12:33:48	1619.29	43	43	43	39	45	1.6
9/12/2009	12:33:49	1619.29	43	43	43	39	45	2
9/12/2009	12:33:50	1619.29	43	44	43	40	45	1.7
9/12/2009	12:33:51	1619.29	43	44	44	40	45	2
9/12/2009	12:33:52	1619.29	43	44	44	40	45	1.6
9/12/2009	12:33:53	1619.29	43	44	44	40	45	2.1
9/12/2009	12:33:54	1619.29	43	44	44	40	45	1.6
9/12/2009	12:33:56	1619.29	43	44	44	40	45	2.2
9/12/2009	12:33:57	1619.29	43	44	44	40	45	1.8
9/12/2009	12:33:58	1619.29	43	44	44	40	45	2.1
9/12/2009	12:33:59	1619.29	44	44	45	40	45	1.6
9/12/2009	12:34:00	1619.29	43	44	44	40	46	2.1
9/12/2009	12:34:01	1619.29	44	44	44	41	46	1.6
9/12/2009	12:34:02	1619.29	44	44	45	41	46	2
9/12/2009	12:34:03	1619.29	44	44	44	41	46	1.8
9/12/2009	12:34:04	1619.29	44	45	45	41	46	1.9
9/12/2009	12:34:05	1619.29	44	45	45	41	46	1.6
9/12/2009	12:34:06	1619.29	44	45	45	41	46	2.1
9/12/2009	12:34:07	1619.29	44	45	45	41	46	1.5
9/12/2009	12:34:08	1619.29	44	45	45	41	46	2
9/12/2009	12:34:09	1619.29	44	45	45	42	46	1.8
9/12/2009	12:34:10	1619.29	44	45	45	41	46	1.9
9/12/2009	12:34:11	1619.29	44	45	45	41	46	1.6
9/12/2009	12:34:12	1619.29	44	45	45	41	47	2.2
9/12/2009	12:34:13	1619.29	44	45	45	41	47	1.5
9/12/2009	12:34:14	1619.29	44	45	45	41	46	2
9/12/2009	12:34:15	1619.29	44	45	45	42	47	1.7
9/12/2009	12:34:16	1619.29	45	45	45	41	47	1.9
9/12/2009	12:34:17	1619.29	44	45	46	42	47	1.8
9/12/2009	12:34:18	1619.29	44	46	46	42	47	2.2
9/12/2009	12:34:19	1619.29	45	46	45	41	47	1.5
9/12/2009	12:34:20	1619.29	45	46	46	42	47	2
9/12/2009	12:34:21	1619.29	45	46	46	41	47	1.8
9/12/2009	12:34:22	1619.29	45	46	45	42	47	1.9
9/12/2009	12:34:23	1619.29	45	46	46	42	47	1.6
9/12/2009	12:34:24	1619.29	45	46	46	42	47	2.1
9/12/2009	12:34:25	1619.29	45	46	46	42	48	1.6
9/12/2009	12:34:26	1619.29	45	46	46	43	47	2
9/12/2009	12:34:27	1619.29	45	46	46	42	47	1.8
9/12/2009	12:34:28	1619.29	45	46	46	42	48	2
9/12/2009	12:34:29	1619.29	45	46	46	43	48	1.6
9/12/2009	12:34:30	1619.29	45	46	46	43	48	2.2
9/12/2009	12:34:31	1619.29	46	46	46	43	48	1.5
9/12/2009	12:34:32	1619.29	45	46	46	43	48	2.1
9/12/2009	12:34:33	1619.29	45	46	47	43	48	1.7
9/12/2009	12:34:34	1619.29	45	46	46	43	48	2
9/12/2009	12:34:35	1619.29	46	46	47	43	48	1.5
9/12/2009	12:34:36	1619.29	46	46	47	43	48	2.3
9/12/2009	12:34:37	1619.29	46	47	47	43	48	1.5
9/12/2009	12:34:38	1619.29	46	47	47	43	48	2
9/12/2009	12:34:39	1619.29	46	46	47	43	48	1.7
9/12/2009	12:34:40	1619.29	46	47	47	43	48	2
9/12/2009	12:34:41	1619.29	46	47	47	43	48	1.5
9/12/2009	12:34:42	1619.29	46	47	47	43	49	2.2
9/12/2009	12:34:43	1619.29	46	47	47	44	49	1.5
9/12/2009	12:34:44	1619.29	47	47	47	44	49	2.1
9/12/2009	12:34:45	1619.29	46	47	47	43	49	1.7
9/12/2009	12:34:46	1619.29	46	47	47	44	49	2
9/12/2009	12:34:47	1619.29	46	47	48	44	49	1.5
9/12/2009	12:34:48	1619.29	47	47	47	44	49	2.3
9/12/2009	12:34:49	1619.29	47	47	47	44	49	1.5
9/12/2009	12:34:50	1619.29	47	47	47	44	49	2
9/12/2009	12:34:51	1619.29	46	47	47	44	49	1.7
9/12/2009	12:34:52	1619.29	46	47	48	44	49	2.1
9/12/2009	12:34:53	1619.29	47	47	47	44	49	1.5
9/12/2009	12:34:54	1619.29	47	47	47	44	49	2.2
9/12/2009	12:34:55	1619.29	47	48	48	44	49	1.5
9/12/2009	12:34:56	1619.29	47	47	48	44	49	2.1
9/12/2009	12:34:57	1619.29	47	47	48	44	49	1.7
9/12/2009	12:34:58	1619.29	47	48	48	44	50	2.1
9/12/2009	12:34:59	1619.29	47	47	48	44	49	1.5
9/12/2009	12:35:00	1619.29	47	48	48	44	50	2.4
9/12/2009	12:35:01	1619.29	47	48	48	44	50	1.5
9/12/2009	12:35:02	1619.29	47	48	48	45	50	2.1
9/12/2009	12:35:03	1619.29	48	48	48	44	50	1.7
9/12/2009	12:35:04	1619.29	47	48	48	45	50	2
9/12/2009	12:35:05	1619.29	47	48	49	45	50	1.6
9/12/2009	12:35:06	1619.29	47	48	48	45	50	2.2
9/12/2009	12:35:08	1619.29	48	48	48	45	50	1.5
9/12/2009	12:35:09	1619.29	47	48	48	45	50	2.1
9/12/2009	12:35:10	1619.29	48	48	48	45	50	1.8
9/12/2009	12:35:11	1619.29	48	48	48	45	50	2
9/12/2009	12:35:12	1619.29	48	48	48	45	50	1.5
9/12/2009	12:35:13	1619.29	48	49	48	45	50	2.3
9/12/2009	12:35:14	1619.29	48	48	48	45	50	1.5
9/12/2009	12:35:15	1619.29	48	49	48	45	50	2
9/12/2009	12:35:16	1619.29	48	49	49	45	50	2.1
9/12/2009	12:35:17	1619.29	48	49	49	45	50	4.9
9/12/2009	12:35:18	1619.29	48	49	49	45	50	2
9/12/2009	12:35:19	1619.29	48	49	49	45	51	1.8
9/12/2009	12:35:20	1619.29	49	49	49	45	51	1.9
9/12/2009	12:35:21	1619.29	48	49	49	45	51	1.7
9/12/2009	12:35:22	1619.29	48	49	49	45	51	1.9
9/12/2009	12:35:23	1619.29	48	49	49	45	51	1.8
9/12/2009	12:35:24	1619.29	48	49	49	45	51	2
9/12/2009	12:35:25	1619.29	48	49	49	45	51	1.8
9/12/2009	12:35:26	1619.29	48	49	49	46	51	1.9
9/12/2009	12:35:27	1619.29	49	49	50	46	51	1.7
9/12/2009	12:35:28	1619.29	49	49	49	46	51	2.2
9/12/2009	12:35:29	1619.29	49	49	49	45	51	1.6
9/12/2009	12:35:30	1619.29	48	49	49	46	51	2
9/12/2009	12:35:31	1619.29	49	49	50	46	51	1.8
9/12/2009	12:35:32	1619.29	49	49	49	46	51	2
9/12/2009	12:35:33	1619.29	49	49	49	46	51	1.6
9/12/2009	12:35:34	1619.29	49	50	49	46	51	2.2
9/12/2009	12:35:35	1619.29	49	49	49	46	51	1.5
9/12/2009	12:35:36	1619.29	49	50	49	46	52	2
9/12/2009	12:35:37	1619.29	49	50	50	46	52	1.8
9/12/2009	12:35:38	1619.29	49	49	50	46	52	2
9/12/2009	12:35:39	1619.29	49	49	50	46	52	1.6
9/12/2009	12:35:40	1619.29	49	50	49	46	52	2.3
9/12/2009	12:35:41	1619.29	49	50	50	47	52	1.5
9/12/2009	12:35:42	1619.29	49	50	50	46	52	2.1
9/12/2009	12:35:43	1619.29	50	50	50	46	52	1.8
9/12/2009	12:35:44	1619.29	50	50	51	47	52	2
9/12/2009	12:35:45	1619.29	49	50	50	46	52	1.8
9/12/2009	12:35:46	1619.29	50	50	50	46	52	2.8
9/12/2009	12:35:47	1619.29	50	50	50	47	52	2.3
9/12/2009	12:35:48	1619.29	50	50	50	47	52	2.3
9/12/2009	12:35:49	1619.29	50	50	50	47	52	2.5
9/12/2009	12:35:50	1619.29	50	50	50	47	52	2.9
9/12/2009	12:35:51	1619.29	50	51	51	47	52	1.9
9/12/2009	12:35:52	1619.29	50	50	50	47	52	1.9
9/12/2009	12:35:53	1619.29	50	52	51	48	52	13.5
9/12/2009	12:35:54	1619.29	51	51	50	47	53	15.6
9/12/2009	12:35:55	1619.29	50	50	51	47	53	4.3
9/12/2009	12:35:56	1619.29	50	50	51	47	53	2.3
9/12/2009	12:35:57	1619.29	50	50	50	47	53	2.2
9/12/2009	12:35:58	1619.29	50	51	50	47	53	1.7
9/12/2009	12:35:59	1619.29	50	50	50	47	53	1.5
9/12/2009	12:36:00	1619.29	50	51	50	47	53	1.5
9/12/2009	12:36:01	1619.29	50	50	51	47	53	2.4
9/12/2009	12:36:02	1619.29	50	50	51	47	53	1.5
9/12/2009	12:36:03	1619.29	50	51	51	47	53	1.6
9/12/2009	12:36:04	1619.29	50	51	51	47	53	1.6
9/12/2009	12:36:05	1619.29	51	51	50	48	53	1.5
9/12/2009	12:36:06	1619.29	50	51	51	48	53	1.5
9/12/2009	12:36:07	1619.29	50	51	51	47	53	1.7
9/12/2009	12:36:08	1619.29	50	51	51	48	53	1.5
9/12/2009	12:36:09	1619.29	51	51	51	48	53	1.5
9/12/2009	12:36:10	1619.29	51	51	50	48	53	1.7
9/12/2009	12:36:11	1619.29	50	51	51	48	53	1.6
9/12/2009	12:36:12	1619.29	51	51	50	48	53	1.5
9/12/2009	12:36:13	1619.29	51	51	52	48	53	1.7
9/12/2009	12:36:14	1619.29	51	51	52	48	53	1.4
9/12/2009	12:36:15	1619.29	51	51	51	48	53	1.4
9/12/2009	12:36:16	1619.29	50	51	52	48	53	1.7
9/12/2009	12:36:17	1619.29	51	51	51	48	54	1.5
9/12/2009	12:36:18	1619.29	51	51	51	48	54	1.5
9/12/2009	12:36:20	1619.29	51	51	51	48	54	1.7
9/12/2009	12:36:21	1619.29	50	52	51	48	54	1.5
9/12/2009	12:36:22	1619.29	51	52	51	48	54	1.5
9/12/2009	12:36:23	1619.29	51	52	52	48	54	1.7
9/12/2009	12:36:24	1619.29	51	52	51	48	54	1.5
9/12/2009	12:36:25	1619.29	51	52	51	48	54	1.5
9/12/2009	12:36:26	1619.29	51	51	51	48	54	1.4
9/12/2009	12:36:27	1619.29	51	52	51	49	54	1.7
9/12/2009	12:36:28	1619.29	52	52	51	48	54	1.5
9/12/2009	12:36:29	1619.29	51	52	52	49	54	1.7
9/12/2009	12:36:30	1619.29	52	51	52	48	54	1.5
9/12/2009	12:36:31	1619.29	52	52	52	49	54	1.4
9/12/2009	12:36:32	1619.29	51	52	52	49	54	1.8
9/12/2009	12:36:33	1619.29	51	52	52	49	54	1.4
9/12/2009	12:36:34	1619.29	51	52	52	49	54	1.5
9/12/2009	12:36:35	1619.29	51	52	53	49	54	1.7
9/12/2009	12:36:36	1619.29	52	52	52	49	54	1.5
9/12/2009	12:36:37	1619.29	52	52	52	49	54	1.4
9/12/2009	12:36:38	1619.29	52	52	52	49	54	1.8
9/12/2009	12:36:39	1619.29	51	52	52	49	54	1.4
9/12/2009	12:36:40	1619.29	52	52	52	49	54	1.5
9/12/2009	12:36:41	1619.29	52	52	52	49	54	1.7
9/12/2009	12:36:42	1619.29	52	52	52	49	55	1.5
9/12/2009	12:36:43	1619.29	52	52	52	49	55	1.4
9/12/2009	12:36:44	1619.29	52	52	52	49	55	1.7
9/12/2009	12:36:45	1619.29	52	52	53	50	55	1.5
9/12/2009	12:36:46	1619.29	52	52	52	50	55	1.5
9/12/2009	12:36:47	1619.29	52	52	52	49	55	1.9
9/12/2009	12:36:48	1619.29	52	52	53	50	55	1.4
9/12/2009	12:36:49	1619.29	52	52	53	49	55	1.4
9/12/2009	12:36:50	1619.29	52	52	52	50	55	1.7
9/12/2009	12:36:51	1619.29	52	52	53	49	55	1.5
9/12/2009	12:36:52	1619.29	52	52	53	49	55	1.4
9/12/2009	12:36:53	1619.29	52	52	52	50	55	1.8
9/12/2009	12:36:54	1619.29	52	52	53	49	55	1.4
9/12/2009	12:36:55	1619.29	52	52	53	50	55	1.5
9/12/2009	12:36:56	1619.29	52	52	53	49	55	1.8
9/12/2009	12:36:57	1619.29	52	52	53	50	55	1.5
9/12/2009	12:36:58	1619.29	52	52	53	49	55	1.4
9/12/2009	12:36:59	1619.29	52	53	53	50	55	1.8
9/12/2009	12:37:00	1619.29	52	53	53	50	55	1.5
9/12/2009	12:37:01	1619.29	52	53	53	50	55	1.5
9/12/2009	12:37:02	1619.29	53	53	53	52	55	1.8
9/12/2009	12:37:03	1619.29	53	53	53	51	56	1.5
9/12/2009	12:37:04	1619.29	52	53	53	51	56	1.4
9/12/2009	12:37:05	1619.29	53	53	53	51	56	1.6
9/12/2009	12:37:06	1619.29	52	53	53	50	56	1.6
9/12/2009	12:37:07	1619.29	52	53	53	50	56	1.4
9/12/2009	12:37:08	1619.29	53	53	53	50	56	1.4
9/12/2009	12:37:09	1619.29	52	53	54	51	56	1.7
9/12/2009	12:37:10	1619.29	53	53	53	51	56	1.4
9/12/2009	12:37:11	1619.29	53	53	53	50	56	1.5
9/12/2009	12:37:12	1619.29	53	53	53	50	56	2.5
9/12/2009	12:37:13	1619.29	53	53	53	51	56	1.5
9/12/2009	12:37:14	1619.29	53	53	53	50	56	1.4
9/12/2009	12:37:15	1619.29	53	53	53	50	56	1.7
9/12/2009	12:37:16	1619.29	53	53	54	51	56	2.4
9/12/2009	12:37:17	1619.29	53	53	53	51	56	2
9/12/2009	12:37:18	1619.29	53	53	53	50	56	3.4
9/12/2009	12:37:19	1619.29	53	53	53	51	56	2.1
9/12/2009	12:37:20	1619.29	53	53	54	50	56	1.5
9/12/2009	12:37:21	1619.29	53	53	54	50	56	1.8
9/12/2009	12:37:22	1619.29	53	53	53	51	56	1.5
9/12/2009	12:37:23	1619.29	53	53	54	51	56	1.5
9/12/2009	12:37:24	1619.29	54	54	54	51	56	1.9
9/12/2009	12:37:25	1619.29	53	54	54	51	57	1.4
9/12/2009	12:37:26	1619.29	53	53	54	51	56	1.4
9/12/2009	12:37:27	1619.29	53	53	54	51	57	1.8
9/12/2009	12:37:28	1619.29	53	53	54	51	57	1.4
9/12/2009	12:37:29	1619.29	53	53	54	51	57	1.4
9/12/2009	12:37:30	1619.29	53	54	54	51	57	1.7
9/12/2009	12:37:31	1619.29	53	54	54	51	57	1.5
9/12/2009	12:37:33	1619.29	53	54	54	51	57	1.5
9/12/2009	12:37:34	1619.29	53	54	54	51	57	1.7
9/12/2009	12:37:35	1619.29	53	54	54	52	57	1.4
9/12/2009	12:37:36	1619.29	53	54	54	52	57	1.5
9/12/2009	12:37:37	1619.29	53	54	54	52	57	1.7
9/12/2009	12:37:38	1619.29	54	54	54	52	57	1.5
9/12/2009	12:37:39	1619.29	53	55	54	52	57	1.5
9/12/2009	12:37:40	1619.29	54	54	54	52	57	1.8
9/12/2009	12:37:41	1619.29	53	53	54	52	57	1.4
9/12/2009	12:37:42	1619.29	54	55	54	52	57	1.5
9/12/2009	12:37:43	1619.29	53	54	54	52	57	1.8
9/12/2009	12:37:44	1619.29	53	54	54	51	57	1.4
9/12/2009	12:37:45	1619.29	54	54	54	52	57	1.5
9/12/2009	12:37:46	1619.29	54	54	55	52	57	1.8
9/12/2009	12:37:47	1619.29	54	54	55	52	57	1.4
9/12/2009	12:37:48	1619.29	53	54	54	52	57	1.5
9/12/2009	12:37:49	1619.29	54	54	54	52	57	1.7
9/12/2009	12:37:50	1619.29	54	54	54	51	57	1.4
9/12/2009	12:37:51	1619.29	53	54	54	52	57	1.5
9/12/2009	12:37:52	1619.29	54	54	55	51	57	1.7
9/12/2009	12:37:53	1619.29	54	55	55	52	57	1.4
9/12/2009	12:37:54	1619.29	54	54	55	52	58	1.6
9/12/2009	12:37:55	1619.29	54	55	55	52	58	1.7
9/12/2009	12:37:56	1619.29	54	54	55	52	58	1.5
9/12/2009	12:37:57	1619.29	54	55	55	52	58	1.4
9/12/2009	12:37:58	1619.29	54	55	55	52	58	1.7
9/12/2009	12:37:59	1619.29	54	54	55	52	58	1.4
9/12/2009	12:38:00	1619.29	54	55	55	52	58	1.8
9/12/2009	12:38:01	1619.29	54	55	55	52	58	1.8
9/12/2009	12:38:02	1619.29	54	54	55	52	58	1.5
9/12/2009	12:38:03	1619.29	54	55	55	52	58	1.5
9/12/2009	12:38:04	1619.29	54	55	55	52	58	1.8
9/12/2009	12:38:05	1619.29	54	55	55	52	58	1.4
9/12/2009	12:38:06	1619.29	54	56	55	52	58	1.4
9/12/2009	12:38:07	1619.29	54	55	55	52	58	1.7
9/12/2009	12:38:08	1619.29	54	55	55	52	58	1.5
9/12/2009	12:38:09	1619.29	54	56	55	53	58	1.4
9/12/2009	12:38:10	1619.29	54	55	56	53	58	1.8
9/12/2009	12:38:11	1619.29	54	55	56	53	58	1.4
9/12/2009	12:38:12	1619.29	54	55	55	53	58	1.5
9/12/2009	12:38:13	1619.29	55	56	56	53	58	1.8
9/12/2009	12:38:14	1619.29	54	55	56	53	58	1.5
9/12/2009	12:38:15	1619.29	55	55	56	53	58	1.4
9/12/2009	12:38:16	1619.29	54	55	55	53	58	1.8
9/12/2009	12:38:17	1619.29	54	55	56	53	58	1.5
9/12/2009	12:38:18	1619.29	55	56	55	53	58	1.5
9/12/2009	12:38:19	1619.29	54	55	56	53	58	1.7
9/12/2009	12:38:20	1619.29	54	55	56	53	59	1.5
9/12/2009	12:38:21	1619.29	55	56	56	53	59	1.5
9/12/2009	12:38:22	1619.29	55	55	55	53	59	1.9
9/12/2009	12:38:23	1619.29	55	55	56	52	59	1.4
9/12/2009	12:38:24	1619.29	55	55	56	53	59	1.6
9/12/2009	12:38:25	1619.29	55	55	55	53	59	1.7
9/12/2009	12:38:26	1619.29	55	56	56	53	59	1.4
9/12/2009	12:38:27	1619.29	55	55	56	53	59	1.5
9/12/2009	12:38:28	1619.29	56	55	56	53	59	1.8
9/12/2009	12:38:29	1619.29	55	56	56	53	59	1.3
9/12/2009	12:38:30	1619.29	55	55	55	53	59	1.5
9/12/2009	12:38:31	1619.29	55	56	56	53	59	1.8
9/12/2009	12:38:32	1619.29	55	55	56	53	59	1.5
9/12/2009	12:38:33	1619.29	55	56	56	53	59	1.4
9/12/2009	12:38:34	1619.29	55	56	56	53	59	1.5
9/12/2009	12:38:35	1619.29	55	56	56	53	59	1.8
9/12/2009	12:38:36	1619.29	55	56	56	53	59	1.5
9/12/2009	12:38:37	1619.29	55	56	56	53	59	1.7
9/12/2009	12:38:38	1619.29	55	57	56	53	59	1.5
9/12/2009	12:38:39	1619.29	55	57	56	53	59	1.5
9/12/2009	12:38:40	1619.29	55	56	56	53	59	1.7
9/12/2009	12:38:41	1619.29	55	56	56	54	59	1.4
9/12/2009	12:38:42	1619.29	55	57	56	54	59	1.6
9/12/2009	12:38:43	1619.29	55	57	56	54	59	1.7
9/12/2009	12:38:45	1619.29	55	56	56	54	59	1.5
9/12/2009	12:38:46	1619.29	55	56	56	53	59	1.5
9/12/2009	12:38:47	1619.29	56	56	56	54	59	1.8
9/12/2009	12:38:48	1619.29	55	56	56	53	59	1.4
9/12/2009	12:38:49	1619.29	55	57	56	54	60	1.5
9/12/2009	12:38:50	1619.29	55	56	56	54	60	1.7
9/12/2009	12:38:51	1619.29	55	56	56	54	60	1.4
9/12/2009	12:38:52	1619.29	55	56	56	54	60	1.4
9/12/2009	12:38:53	1619.29	55	57	56	54	60	1.9
9/12/2009	12:38:54	1619.29	55	57	56	54	60	1.4
9/12/2009	12:38:55	1619.29	55	57	56	54	60	1.5
9/12/2009	12:38:56	1619.29	55	57	56	54	60	1.8
9/12/2009	12:38:57	1619.29	55	56	56	54	60	1.4
9/12/2009	12:38:58	1619.29	56	57	56	54	60	1.5
9/12/2009	12:38:59	1619.29	56	57	56	54	60	1.7
9/12/2009	12:39:00	1619.29	55	56	57	54	60	1.5
9/12/2009	12:39:01	1619.29	55	57	56	54	60	1.5
9/12/2009	12:39:02	1619.29	55	56	56	54	60	1.8
9/12/2009	12:39:03	1619.29	55	57	56	54	60	1.4
9/12/2009	12:39:04	1619.29	56	57	56	54	60	1.5
9/12/2009	12:39:05	1619.29	56	57	56	54	60	1.8
9/12/2009	12:39:06	1619.29	56	57	56	54	60	1.4
9/12/2009	12:39:07	1619.29	56	57	56	54	60	1.4
9/12/2009	12:39:08	1619.29	56	57	57	54	60	1.8
9/12/2009	12:39:09	1619.29	56	57	56	54	60	1.4
9/12/2009	12:39:10	1619.29	56	57	56	54	60	1.5
9/12/2009	12:39:11	1619.29	56	56	57	54	60	5.5
9/12/2009	12:39:12	1619.29	56	57	57	54	60	1.5
9/12/2009	12:39:13	1619.29	56	57	57	54	60	1.4
9/12/2009	12:39:14	1619.29	56	57	57	54	60	1.8
9/12/2009	12:39:15	1619.29	56	57	57	54	60	1.4
9/12/2009	12:39:16	1619.29	56	57	57	54	60	1.5
9/12/2009	12:39:17	1619.29	56	57	57	54	60	1.7
9/12/2009	12:39:18	1619.29	56	57	57	54	60	1.5
9/12/2009	12:39:19	1619.29	56	57	57	54	60	1.4
9/12/2009	12:39:20	1619.29	56	57	57	54	60	1.8
9/12/2009	12:39:21	1619.29	56	58	57	54	61	1.4
9/12/2009	12:39:22	1619.29	56	57	57	55	60	1.5
9/12/2009	12:39:23	1619.29	56	57	57	55	61	1.8
9/12/2009	12:39:24	1619.29	56	57	57	54	61	1.5
9/12/2009	12:39:25	1619.29	56	57	57	55	61	1.5
9/12/2009	12:39:26	1619.29	56	58	57	55	61	1.7
9/12/2009	12:39:27	1619.29	56	57	57	55	61	1.4
9/12/2009	12:39:28	1619.29	56	57	57	55	61	1.5
9/12/2009	12:39:29	1619.29	57	57	57	54	61	1.6
9/12/2009	12:39:30	1619.29	56	57	57	54	61	1.5
9/12/2009	12:39:31	1619.29	56	57	57	54	61	1.5
9/12/2009	12:39:32	1619.29	56	57	58	55	61	1.7
9/12/2009	12:39:33	1619.29	56	57	57	55	61	1.5
9/12/2009	12:39:34	1619.29	56	58	57	55	61	1.5
9/12/2009	12:39:35	1619.29	57	57	57	54	61	1.7
9/12/2009	12:39:36	1619.29	56	57	58	55	61	1.5
9/12/2009	12:39:37	1619.29	56	57	57	55	61	1.4
9/12/2009	12:39:38	1619.29	57	58	57	55	61	1.5
9/12/2009	12:39:39	1619.29	57	58	58	55	61	1.7
9/12/2009	12:39:40	1619.29	56	58	57	55	61	1.5
9/12/2009	12:39:41	1619.29	57	57	58	55	61	1.6
9/12/2009	12:39:42	1619.29	57	58	58	55	61	1.5
9/12/2009	12:39:43	1619.29	56	58	57	55	61	1.4
9/12/2009	12:39:44	1619.29	57	58	57	55	61	1.7
9/12/2009	12:39:45	1619.29	56	58	58	55	61	1.4
9/12/2009	12:39:46	1619.29	57	58	57	55	61	1.5
9/12/2009	12:39:47	1619.29	56	58	57	55	61	1.6
9/12/2009	12:39:48	1619.29	57	58	58	55	61	1.5
9/12/2009	12:39:49	1619.29	57	58	57	55	61	1.4
9/12/2009	12:39:50	1619.29	57	58	57	55	61	1.7
9/12/2009	12:39:51	1619.29	57	58	58	55	61	1.4
9/12/2009	12:39:52	1619.29	57	58	57	55	61	1.5
9/12/2009	12:39:53	1619.29	57	59	57	55	61	1.7
9/12/2009	12:39:54	1619.29	56	58	57	55	62	1.5
9/12/2009	12:39:55	1619.29	57	58	57	55	62	1.4
9/12/2009	12:39:56	1619.29	57	58	57	55	62	1.7
9/12/2009	12:39:58	1619.29	57	58	57	55	62	1.4
9/12/2009	12:39:59	1619.29	57	58	58	55	62	1.4
9/12/2009	12:40:00	1619.29	57	58	57	55	62	1.8
9/12/2009	12:40:01	1619.29	57	58	58	55	62	1.5
9/12/2009	12:40:02	1619.29	57	58	57	55	62	1.4
9/12/2009	12:40:03	1619.29	57	58	58	55	62	1.7
9/12/2009	12:40:04	1619.29	57	58	58	55	62	1.4
9/12/2009	12:40:05	1619.29	57	58	58	55	62	1.5
9/12/2009	12:40:06	1619.29	57	58	58	55	62	1.6
9/12/2009	12:40:07	1619.29	57	58	57	55	62	1.5
9/12/2009	12:40:08	1619.29	57	58	58	55	62	1.4
9/12/2009	12:40:09	1619.29	57	58	58	55	62	1.7
9/12/2009	12:40:10	1619.29	57	58	58	55	62	1.4
9/12/2009	12:40:11	1619.29	57	58	59	55	62	1.5
9/12/2009	12:40:12	1619.29	57	58	58	55	62	1.7
9/12/2009	12:40:13	1619.29	57	60	58	57	62	5.1
9/12/2009	12:40:14	1619.29	58	59	58	56	62	12.9
9/12/2009	12:40:15	1619.29	58	59	58	56	62	3.7
9/12/2009	12:40:16	1619.29	57	59	58	56	62	1.4
9/12/2009	12:40:17	1619.29	57	58	59	56	62	1.5
9/12/2009	12:40:18	1619.29	57	58	58	56	62	1.7
9/12/2009	12:40:19	1619.29	57	58	58	56	62	1.5
9/12/2009	12:40:20	1619.29	57	59	58	56	62	1.4
9/12/2009	12:40:21	1619.29	57	59	58	56	62	1.7
9/12/2009	12:40:22	1619.29	57	59	58	56	62	1.4
9/12/2009	12:40:23	1619.29	57	59	58	56	62	1.5
9/12/2009	12:40:24	1619.29	57	58	58	56	62	1.5
9/12/2009	12:40:25	1619.29	57	58	58	56	62	1.7
9/12/2009	12:40:26	1619.29	57	59	58	56	62	1.3
9/12/2009	12:40:27	1619.29	57	59	58	56	62	1.5
9/12/2009	12:40:28	1619.29	57	59	58	56	62	1.7
9/12/2009	12:40:29	1619.29	57	59	58	56	62	1.4
9/12/2009	12:40:30	1619.29	57	59	58	56	63	1.4
9/12/2009	12:40:31	1619.29	57	59	59	56	63	1.7
9/12/2009	12:40:32	1619.29	57	59	59	56	63	1.4
9/12/2009	12:40:33	1619.29	57	59	58	56	63	1.7
9/12/2009	12:40:34	1619.29	57	59	58	56	63	1.6
9/12/2009	12:40:35	1619.29	57	59	59	56	63	1.5
9/12/2009	12:40:36	1619.29	57	59	58	56	63	1.4
9/12/2009	12:40:37	1619.29	57	60	58	56	63	1.7
9/12/2009	12:40:38	1619.29	57	59	58	57	63	1.5
9/12/2009	12:40:39	1619.29	57	59	58	56	63	1.5
9/12/2009	12:40:40	1619.29	58	59	58	56	63	1.6
9/12/2009	12:40:41	1619.29	57	59	58	56	63	1.5
9/12/2009	12:40:42	1619.29	57	59	59	56	63	1.5
9/12/2009	12:40:43	1619.29	58	59	59	56	63	1.7
9/12/2009	12:40:44	1619.29	58	59	59	56	63	1.4
9/12/2009	12:40:45	1619.29	58	59	59	56	63	1.6
9/12/2009	12:40:46	1619.29	58	59	59	56	63	1.6
9/12/2009	12:40:47	1619.29	58	59	59	56	63	1.4
9/12/2009	12:40:48	1619.29	57	59	59	56	63	1.4
9/12/2009	12:40:49	1619.29	58	59	59	56	63	1.7
9/12/2009	12:40:50	1619.29	58	59	59	56	63	1.4
9/12/2009	12:40:51	1619.29	58	60	59	56	63	1.5
9/12/2009	12:40:52	1619.29	58	59	59	56	63	1.7
9/12/2009	12:40:53	1619.29	58	59	59	57	63	1.5
9/12/2009	12:40:54	1619.29	57	60	59	56	63	1.5
9/12/2009	12:40:55	1619.29	58	59	59	56	63	1.7
9/12/2009	12:40:56	1619.29	58	60	59	56	63	1.4
9/12/2009	12:40:57	1619.29	58	60	59	56	63	1.5
9/12/2009	12:40:58	1619.29	58	60	59	56	63	1.6
9/12/2009	12:40:59	1619.29	58	60	59	57	63	1.4
9/12/2009	12:41:00	1619.29	58	60	60	57	63	1.6
9/12/2009	12:41:01	1619.29	58	59	60	57	63	1.7
9/12/2009	12:41:02	1619.29	58	60	59	56	64	1.4
9/12/2009	12:41:03	1619.29	58	60	60	56	63	1.5
9/12/2009	12:41:04	1619.29	58	60	60	57	64	1.8
9/12/2009	12:41:05	1619.29	58	59	60	57	63	1.4
9/12/2009	12:41:06	1619.29	58	60	59	57	64	1.5
9/12/2009	12:41:07	1619.29	58	60	60	56	64	1.7
9/12/2009	12:41:08	1619.29	58	60	59	57	64	1.5
9/12/2009	12:41:10	1619.29	58	60	60	57	64	1.5
9/12/2009	12:41:11	1619.29	58	60	60	57	64	1.7
9/12/2009	12:41:12	1619.29	58	60	59	57	64	1.4
9/12/2009	12:41:13	1619.29	58	59	60	57	64	1.5
9/12/2009	12:41:14	1619.29	58	60	60	57	64	1.6
9/12/2009	12:41:15	1619.29	58	60	59	57	64	1.6
9/12/2009	12:41:16	1619.29	58	60	60	57	64	1.5
9/12/2009	12:41:17	1619.29	58	60	59	57	64	1.7
9/12/2009	12:41:18	1619.29	58	60	60	57	64	1.4
9/12/2009	12:41:19	1619.29	58	60	59	57	64	1.6
9/12/2009	12:41:20	1619.29	58	60	60	57	64	1.6
9/12/2009	12:41:21	1619.29	58	60	60	57	64	1.5
9/12/2009	12:41:22	1619.29	58	60	59	57	64	1.4
9/12/2009	12:41:23	1619.29	58	60	60	57	64	1.7
9/12/2009	12:41:24	1619.29	58	60	60	57	64	1.4
9/12/2009	12:41:25	1619.29	58	60	60	57	64	1.4
9/12/2009	12:41:26	1619.29	58	60	60	57	64	1.7
9/12/2009	12:41:27	1619.29	58	60	60	57	64	1.4
9/12/2009	12:41:28	1619.29	59	60	60	57	64	1.4
9/12/2009	12:41:29	1619.29	58	60	61	57	64	1.6
9/12/2009	12:41:30	1619.29	59	60	61	57	64	1.4
9/12/2009	12:41:31	1619.29	59	60	60	57	64	1.5
9/12/2009	12:41:32	1619.29	58	60	60	57	64	1.6
9/12/2009	12:41:33	1619.29	59	60	60	57	64	1.5
9/12/2009	12:41:34	1619.29	58	60	60	57	64	1.4
9/12/2009	12:41:35	1619.29	59	60	60	57	64	1.7
9/12/2009	12:41:36	1619.29	59	61	61	57	64	1.4
9/12/2009	12:41:37	1619.29	59	60	60	57	64	1.5
9/12/2009	12:41:38	1619.29	59	60	60	57	64	1.7
9/12/2009	12:41:39	1619.29	59	60	61	57	64	1.4
9/12/2009	12:41:40	1619.29	59	60	60	57	64	1.4
9/12/2009	12:41:41	1619.29	59	60	61	57	64	1.7
9/12/2009	12:41:42	1619.29	59	60	60	57	64	1.4
9/12/2009	12:41:43	1619.29	59	60	61	57	64	1.5
9/12/2009	12:41:44	1619.29	59	60	60	58	64	1.6
9/12/2009	12:41:45	1619.29	58	60	60	57	65	1.5
9/12/2009	12:41:46	1619.29	58	61	61	57	64	1.5
9/12/2009	12:41:47	1619.29	59	60	61	57	65	1.5
9/12/2009	12:41:48	1619.29	59	61	61	57	64	1.6
9/12/2009	12:41:49	1619.29	59	61	60	57	65	1.5
9/12/2009	12:41:50	1619.29	58	61	61	58	64	1.7
9/12/2009	12:41:51	1619.29	59	61	60	57	65	1.4
9/12/2009	12:41:52	1619.29	58	60	61	57	65	1.5
9/12/2009	12:41:53	1619.29	59	61	60	57	65	1.7
9/12/2009	12:41:54	1619.29	59	60	60	57	65	1.4
9/12/2009	12:41:55	1619.29	59	61	61	58	65	1.5
9/12/2009	12:41:56	1619.29	59	61	60	58	65	1.6
9/12/2009	12:41:57	1619.29	59	61	61	57	65	1.4
9/12/2009	12:41:58	1619.29	59	60	60	57	65	1.5
9/12/2009	12:41:59	1619.29	59	61	61	58	65	1.7
9/12/2009	12:42:00	1619.29	59	61	60	58	65	1.4
9/12/2009	12:42:01	1619.29	60	61	61	58	65	1.5
9/12/2009	12:42:02	1619.29	59	61	61	58	65	1.6
9/12/2009	12:42:03	1619.29	59	61	61	58	65	1.4
9/12/2009	12:42:04	1619.29	59	61	61	58	65	1.5
9/12/2009	12:42:05	1619.29	59	61	61	58	65	1.7
9/12/2009	12:42:06	1619.29	59	61	60	58	65	1.4
9/12/2009	12:42:07	1619.29	59	61	61	58	65	1.5
9/12/2009	12:42:08	1619.29	59	61	61	58	65	1.7
9/12/2009	12:42:09	1619.29	59	61	61	58	65	1.4
9/12/2009	12:42:10	1619.29	59	61	61	58	65	1.4
9/12/2009	12:42:11	1619.29	59	61	61	58	65	1.7
9/12/2009	12:42:12	1619.29	59	61	60	58	65	1.4
9/12/2009	12:42:13	1619.29	60	61	61	58	65	1.5
9/12/2009	12:42:14	1619.29	59	61	61	58	65	1.7
9/12/2009	12:42:15	1619.29	59	61	61	58	65	1.6
9/12/2009	12:42:16	1619.29	59	61	61	58	65	1.5
9/12/2009	12:42:17	1619.29	59	61	61	58	65	1.7
9/12/2009	12:42:18	1619.29	60	61	61	58	65	1.5
9/12/2009	12:42:19	1619.29	59	61	61	58	65	1.5
9/12/2009	12:42:20	1619.29	60	61	61	58	65	1.7
9/12/2009	12:42:22	1619.29	59	61	61	58	65	1.4
9/12/2009	12:42:23	1619.29	59	61	61	58	65	1.5
9/12/2009	12:42:24	1619.29	59	61	61	58	65	1.6
9/12/2009	12:42:25	1619.29	59	61	61	58	65	1.4
9/12/2009	12:42:26	1619.29	59	61	61	58	65	1.5
9/12/2009	12:42:27	1619.29	59	61	61	58	65	1.6
9/12/2009	12:42:28	1619.29	59	61	61	58	65	1.4
9/12/2009	12:42:29	1619.29	60	61	61	58	65	1.4
9/12/2009	12:42:30	1619.29	59	61	61	58	66	1.7
9/12/2009	12:42:31	1619.29	59	61	61	58	66	1.4
9/12/2009	12:42:32	1619.29	59	61	61	58	65	1.4
9/12/2009	12:42:33	1619.29	60	61	61	58	66	1.7
9/12/2009	12:42:34	1619.29	60	61	61	58	66	1.5
9/12/2009	12:42:35	1619.29	59	61	61	59	66	1.5
9/12/2009	12:42:36	1619.29	59	62	61	58	66	1.7
9/12/2009	12:42:37	1619.29	59	61	61	58	66	1.4
9/12/2009	12:42:38	1619.29	60	61	61	58	66	1.5
9/12/2009	12:42:39	1619.29	59	61	61	58	66	1.7
9/12/2009	12:42:40	1619.29	59	61	61	58	66	1.5
9/12/2009	12:42:41	1619.29	59	61	61	58	66	1.5
9/12/2009	12:42:42	1619.29	60	61	61	58	66	1.7
9/12/2009	12:42:43	1619.29	59	61	61	58	66	1.4
9/12/2009	12:42:44	1619.29	59	61	62	58	66	1.4
9/12/2009	12:42:45	1619.29	60	61	61	58	66	1.6
9/12/2009	12:42:46	1619.29	60	61	61	58	66	1.4
9/12/2009	12:42:47	1619.29	59	61	61	58	66	1.4
9/12/2009	12:42:48	1619.29	60	61	61	58	66	1.7
9/12/2009	12:42:49	1619.29	60	61	61	58	66	1.9
9/12/2009	12:42:50	1619.29	60	61	61	59	66	1.5
9/12/2009	12:42:51	1619.29	60	61	61	58	66	1.4
9/12/2009	12:42:52	1619.29	60	61	61	59	66	1.7
9/12/2009	12:42:53	1619.29	60	61	61	58	66	1.4
9/12/2009	12:42:54	1619.29	60	61	62	58	66	1.9
9/12/2009	12:42:55	1619.29	60	61	61	58	66	2.8
9/12/2009	12:42:56	1619.29	60	61	62	59	66	5.4
9/12/2009	12:42:57	1619.29	60	61	61	58	66	4.9
9/12/2009	12:42:58	1619.29	60	61	61	59	66	4.1
9/12/2009	12:42:59	1619.29	60	62	63	59	66	4.1
9/12/2009	12:43:00	1619.29	61	61	62	59	66	6.6
9/12/2009	12:43:01	1619.29	61	62	62	59	66	7.4
9/12/2009	12:43:02	1619.29	61	62	62	59	66	4
9/12/2009	12:43:03	1619.29	61	62	62	59	66	4.7
9/12/2009	12:43:04	1619.29	61	61	62	58	66	5.4
9/12/2009	12:43:05	1619.29	60	62	62	60	67	3.4
9/12/2009	12:43:06	1619.29	60	61	62	59	67	6.5
9/12/2009	12:43:07	1619.29	61	61	63	59	67	9.8
9/12/2009	12:43:08	1619.29	60	61	63	58	67	5.7
9/12/2009	12:43:09	1619.29	61	62	62	59	67	10
9/12/2009	12:43:10	1619.29	60	62	62	59	67	6.6
9/12/2009	12:43:11	1619.29	61	62	62	59	67	2.1
9/12/2009	12:43:12	1619.29	60	62	63	59	67	5.6
9/12/2009	12:43:13	1619.29	61	62	63	59	67	10.2
9/12/2009	12:43:14	1619.29	60	62	62	59	67	7.7
9/12/2009	12:43:15	1619.29	61	62	62	59	67	8.6
9/12/2009	12:43:16	1619.29	61	62	62	59	67	1.2
9/12/2009	12:43:17	1619.29	60	62	62	59	67	2
9/12/2009	12:43:18	1619.29	61	62	62	59	67	1.8
9/12/2009	12:43:19	1619.29	60	62	62	59	67	1.4
9/12/2009	12:43:20	1619.29	60	61	62	59	67	0.8
9/12/2009	12:43:21	1619.29	61	62	62	59	67	1.2
9/12/2009	12:43:22	1619.29	61	62	62	58	67	0.7
9/12/2009	12:43:23	1619.29	60	62	62	59	67	0.9
9/12/2009	12:43:24	1619.29	60	62	62	59	67	1
9/12/2009	12:43:25	1619.29	60	61	62	59	67	0.8
9/12/2009	12:43:26	1619.29	60	62	62	59	67	0.7
9/12/2009	12:43:27	1619.29	61	62	63	59	67	8.2
9/12/2009	12:43:28	1619.29	61	62	63	59	67	5.1
9/12/2009	12:43:29	1619.29	61	62	62	59	67	8.4
9/12/2009	12:43:30	1619.29	60	62	62	60	67	2
9/12/2009	12:43:31	1619.29	60	62	62	59	67	1.8
9/12/2009	12:43:32	1619.29	61	62	62	59	67	1.7
9/12/2009	12:43:34	1619.29	61	62	62	59	67	2.1
9/12/2009	12:43:35	1619.29	61	62	62	59	67	1.9
9/12/2009	12:43:36	1619.29	61	62	62	59	67	1.7
9/12/2009	12:43:37	1619.29	61	62	62	59	67	2.1
9/12/2009	12:43:38	1619.29	60	62	62	59	67	1.8
9/12/2009	12:43:39	1619.29	61	62	62	60	67	1.8
9/12/2009	12:43:40	1619.29	61	62	62	60	67	2.5
9/12/2009	12:43:41	1619.29	60	62	62	59	67	1.7
9/12/2009	12:43:42	1619.29	57	58	59	56	67	1.8
9/12/2009	12:43:43	1619.29	36	37	38	34	62	1.7
9/12/2009	12:43:44	1619.29	35	34	37	31	52	7.9
9/12/2009	12:43:45	1619.29	33	34	35	30	47	2
9/12/2009	12:43:46	1619.29	33	33	34	30	44	1.9
9/12/2009	12:43:47	1619.29	32	33	34	30	42	2
9/12/2009	12:43:48	1619.29	32	33	34	29	41	1.8
9/12/2009	12:43:49	1619.29	32	33	34	30	40	1.8
9/12/2009	12:43:50	1619.29	33	34	34	30	39	1.9
9/12/2009	12:43:51	1619.29	33	34	35	30	39	1.8
9/12/2009	12:43:52	1619.29	33	34	35	30	39	1.8
9/12/2009	12:43:53	1619.29	33	35	35	30	39	2.1
9/12/2009	12:43:54	1619.29	33	35	35	30	39	1.8
9/12/2009	12:43:55	1619.29	34	35	35	31	38	1.7
9/12/2009	12:43:56	1619.29	34	35	36	31	38	2.1
9/12/2009	12:43:57	1619.29	34	35	35	31	38	1.7
9/12/2009	12:43:58	1619.29	34	36	36	32	39	2
9/12/2009	12:43:59	1619.29	35	36	37	32	39	3.7

[MongGrel]

Extremely nice review, pretty impressive TIM.

I was a little skeptical when Masska posted up about this on OCF, but it looks pretty impressive.

Might have to give it a shot

I'm currently trying out the MX-3 on the rig, and to be honest it's good, but I also expected better from the claims.

Had been using MX-2 for a long time now myself.

[Utnorris]

Got mine today, but it may be a few weeks before I can use it. I have some other stuff coming that I need to test out and this is just too expensive for me to rip it off after just a week. Hopefully I can keep myself from giving into temptation.

[masska]

Extremely nice review, pretty impressive TIM.

I was a little skeptical when Masska posted up about this on OCF, but it looks pretty impressive.

Might have to give it a shot

I'm currently trying out the MX-3 on the rig, and to be honest it's good, but I also expected better from the claims.

Had been using MX-2 for a long time now myself.

hey mate, skepticism is good but in this case I'm happy that you've come arround

Got mine today, but it may be a few weeks before I can use it. I have some other stuff coming that I need to test out and this is just too expensive for me to rip it off after just a week. Hopefully I can keep myself from giving into temptation.

let us know how it goes for you

[dejanh]

Hmmm...just used up one out of four of my Indigo Xtreme mounts...it was a to mount in my water loop since all of my hoses are cut right down to size so there is not much movement possible anywhere and stripping the whole thing down was not a possibility. I had to mount it without removing the CPU so I cleaned as good as I could with everything still in there...there was no residue on the cloth or the wipe by the end anywhere, nor on the IHS or the waterblock.

Anyway, mixed opinions so far since my idle temperatures at 4.55GHz seem 3C - 4C higher than with the TIM I was using before. However, since I do not have an air conditioned room and the ambient temps vary all the time I am not sure if this is just related to ambient being higher since it is mid-day now. I will have to check it early in the morning when I know what the actual temps are around the comp area. How do you tell anyway if the mount is successful? I mean my temps are not in the 80s or anything at idle, around ~50C now at 4.55GHz with HT on and 4.33GHz Uncore, 1.505V idle, 1.446V load. Wouldn't it be all or nothing with this ETI...as in like if the mount is bad then transfer is plain going to suck no matter what...

Few other observations/comments...

1. Doing the re-flow with a beefy chipset block like the EK full cover on my Classified in series with the CPU block is perfectly safe. I monitored the MOSFET temps using Everest while loading all of the cores/logical cores at stock speeds using Prime95 blend and even after 3-4 minutes the temperatures of the MOSFETs did not exceed 48C even though the pumps were both off. I do not assume that the NB is any different but the Classified cannot report NB temps in an OS, at least for now so...
2. I am of a strong belief that the computer needs to be ideally horizontal on all horizontal planes if you really want to get a good mount. Use of some kind of tool to determine if the board is ideally horizontal is probably recommended.
3. I'm not sure whether the metal mass of the ETI will damage or warp the bottom of the HK block. Copper is very soft and the metal portion before re-flow is a bulge that presses into the copper quite hard once the block is tightened properly. I would not be surprised if it does deform the copper or that this would also apply for pretty much any other block or heatsink made of softer metals. I guess we will find out once the block is removed...if it does deform the copper then I guess once you go Indigo you stay Indigo
4. If the pumps stop running while the computer is vertical the ETI is done for though hopefully the actual metal cannot leak onto other components of the board. This is just a speculation so if somebody wants to verify it feel free
5. Really meant for one-time builds. People who take their systems apart often would likely not find this very practical. Cost and installation complexity (particularly with internalized water cooled systems) are kind of prohibitive.

Overall, seems a decent product but I definitely need to do more testing. Hard when each of these costs $9 per mount lol

[phantomferrari]

i have a question about the whole turning the pump off to burn it in. wouldnt it be easier and a little safer just to overvolt the cpu a bit, run the pump at its lowest possible voltage then run occt? to me that seems less scary

[rge]

i have a question about the whole turning the pump off to burn it in. wouldnt it be easier and a little safer just to overvolt the cpu a bit, run the pump at its lowest possible voltage then run occt? to me that seems less scary

The water cant be moving at all. The goal is to have IHS/waterblock interface temp at >70C for reflow to occur (inidigo melts according to their site at 70C, I would thought a little higher, but just read it). With water cooling/flowing a gradient higher than 30C will exist from core to IHS/waterblock, so even if core temp = 100C, indigo wont reflow. So pump has to be off, so gradient from core to IHS/waterblock is small enough to allow high enough temp.

Same reason you should not get reflow while loading your cpu to 100C, as long as you are cooling cpu.

[dejanh]

The water cant be moving at all. The goal is to have IHS/waterblock interface temp at >70C for reflow to occur (inidigo melts according to their site at 70C, I would thought a little higher, but just read it). With water cooling/flowing a gradient higher than 30C will exist from core to IHS/waterblock, so even if core temp = 100C, indigo wont reflow. So pump has to be off, so gradient from core to IHS/waterblock is small enough to allow high enough temp.

Same reason you should not get reflow while loading your cpu to 100C, as long as you are cooling cpu.

I'll simplify it a bit...

Any water moving through the system will cause the interface surfaces to cool and will prevent the re-flow from completing successfully. Therefore, in order to prevent the interface surfaces from cooling you stop the water flowing...