Westmere 32nm (6Cores 12T)*2

[Chad Boga]

Isn't Westmere just a code name based on the "Nehalem" architecture or am I missing something here?

Just like AMD "K10.5" is used in both Shanghai and Istanbul for example?

More like Westmere = Penryn, Nehalem = Conroe

[Smartidiot89]

More like Westmere = Penryn, Nehalem = Conroe

So it isn't a new architecture just a die-shrink ok :P

[v0dka]

JCornell what is the temperature of this chip under load? I know it is ES, and that it is not fully mature perhaps, but I'm curious as to how much the die shrink balances the extra cores.

[Chad Boga]

So it isn't a new architecture just a die-shrink ok :P

Not a new architecture and it is indeed a die-shrink, but just as Penryn came with a small IPC boost, so too should Westmere over Nehalem.

[saaya]

More like Westmere = Penryn, Nehalem = Conroe

id say more like nehalem = yorkfield

Not a new architecture and it is indeed a die-shrink, but just as Penryn came with a small IPC boost, so too should Westmere over Nehalem.

itll be so small you wont notice it... for benching itll help though i guess... at least in some benches.

but intel made it very clear not to expect much of a boost from westmere, sandybridge is supposed to be a big perf boost iirc.

[Chad Boga]

id say more like nehalem = yorkfield

Heh, I always think of 65nm Core 2 derivatives as simply "Conroe" and the 45nm derivatives as "Penryn", even though Intel uses different names for Dual and Quad of the same generation.

[Chumbucket843]

So it isn't a new architecture just a die-shrink ok :P

Westmere is getting 6 new AES insructions.

[Vozer]

Westmere is getting 6 new AES insructions.

We all know this, but... have you noticed one thing?



I see no AES instructions.

It is because CPU-Z can't detect it yet, or this CPU is still an early ES, or...?

[Hornet331]

^
they dont have a marketing name for it right now :p

SSE4.2 was NNI (nehalem new instruction).

[Chri$ch]

http://www.donanimhaber.com/ntelin_6...iyor-15156.htm

[saaya]

http://www.donanimhaber.com/ntelin_6...iyor-15156.htm

and?
whats special about that slide?

[FlanK3r]

Think, westemere (32nm) wiil only mainstream and extreme, not middle highend....

[sholvaco]

and?
whats special about that slide?

Something that had been previously assumed and is now official: Extreme Edition only.

[Chri$ch]

and?
whats special about that slide?

Something that had been previously assumed and is now official: Extreme Edition only.

right.

[Vozer]

Now let's guess its price: $999 or $1499?

[Jamesrt2004]

1499

[iTravis]

$1366

[saaya]

Something that had been previously assumed and is now official: Extreme Edition only.

hows that news?
it shows up as replacing the 975 in intel roadmaps for a while... they were posted here in the news section too..
and since it will replace the 975, it wouldnt make sense if it would cost more than 999$ imo...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=231115

[Hornet331]

Something that had been previously assumed and is now official: Extreme Edition only.

Which is quite uninteresting, cause everyone wants to see the Xeon roadmap, i bet theres more then one SKU based on gulftown.

[Vozer]

$1366

[zalbard]

$1366

$1337

[ajaidev]

If this is at $1350-$1500 its Ultra extrema price.... $999-$1250 is much better and would be a ok buy!!!

AMD can counter this by selling those 45nm hex's cheap when i say cheap i mean starting from $500-$600 or so... For the people who say this is not possible the 2.2Ghz hex Istanbul cost's around $449 on newegg.




EDIT:- Although the L3 does seems to be double to than the Hex Istanbul but the total cache "l1+l2+l3" difference is really 4MB.

[STRMX]

+1 for 1337$

[Chumbucket843]

+1 for 1337$

+1 for $13.37

[Xoulz]

+1 for $13.37

Sweet! @ that^^ price I'll take 10 ...!