32nm will ship in Q409, actually. And if one wanted to use AMD terminology, one would say they "started their 32nm production ramp in H109", in the same way AMD will have anything 32nm in H210...Originally Posted by Vozer
That's their Tick-Tock model.
And 32nm in Q1 '10 and Sandy Bridge in Q1 '11 is a little late compared with their initial promise, mind you.
And there has been this little global recession...
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Want.
Core 2 Duo(Conroe) was based on the Intel Core Duo(Yonah) which was based on the Pentium M(Banias) which was based on the Pentium III(Coppermine).
Core 2 Duo is a Pentium III on meth.
I think sooner or later, intel will release 32nm westmeres with only 4 cores from the salvaged 6 core chips. They could rebrand it as an i7 960 or something. What surprises me is why intel hasn't done this yet with the current failed i7 CPUs, but I guess dual/trip core on LGA1366 would tarnish the socket's 'high end' image.
X58s failed to boot ...
JC..so on whitch MB/socket you let the Gulftown boot and run your tests!
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Test results are always welcome with this Chess Test where all your cores/threads will run @100% ,Thanks
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post5259523
they do... but not for consumers, what do you think the Xeon E5502 is?
His are the dual socket, dual QPI Gulftowns ("Westmere EP", probably gonna end up the Xeon 56xx series) so he would be using a dual socket LGA1366 mobo designed around the Tylersburg (Intel 5500/5520) chipset.
Great info (wallpaper is not bad too)
Weissbier - breakfast of champions
that's gulftown right?
Just a BIOS code updated will do ...
As I know, even X58D need to update to make it bootable ...
Nothin' to worry, the times will come ...
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And it is!! I want one
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I'm not saying it's Gulftown(Desktop?) ...
that's gulftown right?
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A German site is claiming Gulftown isn't a native hexacore but 3 dualcore Westmere dies stuffed into a single package (with uncore on a separate die I presume).
http://winfuture.de/news,48822.html
Can anyone confirm it or is this a complete fabrication on their part?
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fabricated, since clarkdale has a PCIE controller on die and no external QPI link, but a DMI link. Gulftown needs at least one QPI link to communicate with the X58 northbridge or 2 for the DP version.
Though that doesn't mean that it couldn't be 3 dies, but it makes no sense. Since nehalem is modular and westmere ist just a shirnk they can add and remove cores as they like and make it all happen on one die.
Next rumor will be, that Beckton is only 2 Gainstown dies.
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Gulftown is native hexa-core. I've seen itA German site is claiming Gulftown isn't a native hexacore but 3 dualcore Westmere dies stuffed into a single package (with uncore on a separate die I presume).
http://winfuture.de/news,48822.html
Can anyone confirm it or is this a complete fabrication on their part?
isn“t itNext rumor will be, that Beckton is only 2 Gainstown dies.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I was under the impression Clarkdale's PCIe controller is a part of a separate uncore die together with the IGP and the IMC which are then linked to the core via QPI.^
fabricated, since clarkdale has a PCIE controller on die and no external QPI link, but a DMI link. Gulftown needs at least one QPI link to communicate with the X58 northbridge or 2 for the DP version.
Though that doesn't mean that it couldn't be 3 dies, but it makes no sense. Since nehalem is modular and westmere ist just a shirnk they can add and remove cores as they like and make it all happen on one die.
Next rumor will be, that Beckton is only 2 Gainstown dies.
I'd like to believe Intel are sticking with their original plan of bringing a native hex to the desktop... but you know, with the sheer amount of transistors the Gulftown contains and the relative freshness (immaturity) of the production process, the projected yields could have been too low to make it worth their while. Or the gain in thermals from switching to 32nm was too low to make it work as a single die (Beckton? silly me
Then again, they did publish die shots a while ago... Time for JC to pop the lid?
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$999-1499 wow.
Just found this:^
fabricated, since clarkdale has a PCIE controller on die and no external QPI link, but a DMI link. Gulftown needs at least one QPI link to communicate with the X58 northbridge or 2 for the DP version.
Though that doesn't mean that it couldn't be 3 dies, but it makes no sense. Since nehalem is modular and westmere ist just a shirnk they can add and remove cores as they like and make it all happen on one die.
Next rumor will be, that Beckton is only 2 Gainstown dies.
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Ha...el_32nm/2.html
It looks like the 2C/4T die will be used to form the whole lineup by simple MCM process. Yeah,it still is not convincing evidence that Gulftown is not "monolithic"and "native" part,but still adds to the veracity of the German link.The Gulftown variant of Westmere will package six cores (twelve threads) into one MCM (multi-chip module) - but other Westmere derived parts will instead package a dual core Westmere die with a GPU in the same package, thus bringing the GPU to the CPU. In fact, the two CPU core / four thread Westmere die will be used in various combinations, with and without GPU cores, to produce processors with 2/4/6 cores and 4/8/12 threads.
hehhee, somebody else paid attentionthey do... but not for consumers, what do you think the Xeon E5502 is?
yeah i noticed that too
just think about it for a second...A German site is claiming Gulftown isn't a native hexacore but 3 dualcore Westmere dies stuffed into a single package (with uncore on a separate die I presume).
http://winfuture.de/news,48822.html
Can anyone confirm it or is this a complete fabrication on their part?
so what, 3 dualcore cpus and a gmch on the same cpu package?
and how are they all connected to the gmch? via qpi?
that would mean the gmch needs 3 qpi links or they daisy chained the cpus, which is rather unlikely...
could intel do this? im sure, there might even be prototypes...
will they do this? unlikely... especially considering they showed some die shots of a monolithic die...
i think they and some others got confused...
the 6 and 8core parts are 1366 only and they are monolithic, most likely
they might be mcm, but surely not with gmch
there are 2 and 4 core parts for 1156 in 32nm, which will use a 45nm gmch, so yes, they will be mcm... whether the 4core igp parts will be 2 cpu dies and one gmch idk, but since gmch, as far as i know, only has 1 qpi link, thats unlikely...
so they probably misunderstood mcm and thought intel is just adding more and more cores on seperate dies. actually, as far as i know, its just the gmch and one cpu die, which is either 2 cores or 4 cores.
http://forums.techgage.com/showthread.php?t=4555
"After discussing the design with Intel though, we found out that like Dunnington, Gulftown will feature a similar design as Core i7, but will just be using Westmere cores at the base, rather than Nehalem cores. Simple explanation, really."
Isn't Westmere just a code name based on the "Nehalem" architecture or am I missing something here?
Just like AMD "K10.5" is used in both Shanghai and Istanbul for example?
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Westmere is the 32nm shrink of Nehalem. So in essence same arch just 45nm is Nehalem and 32nm is Westmere, and I can confirm as well that Westmere is native.
I think the wallpaper would be nice too
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Yes, Westemere is the codename of the new µarch as was/is nehalem for the current one.
Gulftown, Lynnfield, Clarkdale are codenames for the upcoming cpus in various core configuration base on either nehalem µarch (lynnfield) or westmere µarch (gulftown, clarkdale)
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