alright so ive been trying to find a cooler to see how far i need to bend these tubes lil as possible i struck out tonight at sears so ill head back to home depot for a cooler of somesort...thanks for all the help gary u da man
alright so ive been trying to find a cooler to see how far i need to bend these tubes lil as possible i struck out tonight at sears so ill head back to home depot for a cooler of somesort...thanks for all the help gary u da man
mrnuke... Where are those pics you promised us?
Nope. I haven't gotten a good look at it, but it will be either a suction drier, or far more likely, an accumulator. Receivers are not used on cap tube systems.ok in the middle of the picture towards the compressor...(right side of compressor) what is that called and what does that do?
that can is called a "RECEIVER" its basicly a holding tanks for excess freon or r22 in your case .. this requires a high amont to be used to chargew the setup and aids in keeping a constant flow of freon at all times I would think.. PC directdie units almost neevr have these as they casue too much hastle.. anything else I forgot to add or was off on the masters can answer for ya
lil more progress!! cap tubbing ready to go...im gona bend that 90 degree angle in a few! hope fully well be talkin chilled water tomaro if nothing gets in my way!
and gary this is what i was talking about...the thing all covered in frost is what?
yes and no. that is an accumulator which is included to prevent liquid from entering the compressor. these are commonly used in ac units becasue of varying ambient temperature and heatloads (ie ac setting etc.). since you cant charge for a specific heatload you have to have an operating range for the system to work with. when the heatload is low (evaporator fan on slow, or high ambeint temperature) not all the liquid will evaporate and canOriginally posted by MickeyMouse
that can is called a "RECEIVER" its basicly a holding tanks for excess freon or r22 in your case.. this requires a high amont to be used to chargew the setup and aids in keeping a constant flow of freon at all times I would think.. PC directdie units almost neevr have these as they casue too much hastle.. anything else I forgot to add or was off on the masters can answer for ya
back up to the compressor, an accumulator prevents this. this is also common with expantion valve throttled systems where liquid slugging can be a problem on startup because the sensor bulb hasnt been cooled enough.
off topic:
freon = r12
if (refrigerant != r12)
{
refrigerant != freon
}
Last edited by ellsworth; 11-22-2003 at 10:03 PM.
electrical engineering lab rat
As always, there are three important questions involved:
What is the heat load?
How cold do you want it?
Will that be Visa, MC, or Discover Card?
-gary
ahh gotcha!! so i assume the machI and II have these to right? since ur heat load varries whith full load and idle? thanks for the good info ellsworth ur one smart guy...good to have u on the forums helping us noobs out!!!
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prometia's use somthing similar to prevent this without actually using an accumulator. they make a sharp bend in the pipe (u-shape) right before the inlet so that the liquid can collect and boil off before entering the compressor. the heatload doesnt vary enough i dont think to need an actual accumulator.
electrical engineering lab rat
As always, there are three important questions involved:
What is the heat load?
How cold do you want it?
Will that be Visa, MC, or Discover Card?
-gary
commin tomorrow, can't find my camera....... but i will have them tomorrowOriginally posted by Gary Lloyd
mrnuke... Where are those pics you promised us?
Pimpsho - i hope you have A LOT of STRONG anti corrosion additives as i see at least 4 metals there... aluminium, copper, steel and Zn (dunno the english name) wich is the coating on the steel... add brass on the joints... ouch
anti-corrosion = antifreeze
anti freeze is made for anti corrosion so your radiator doesnt corrode, and i think it is the glycol that makes it to where water cant react. the glycol fills the bonds so the water is saturated, if i remember my chemistry correctly. you need antifreeze anyways so you kill 2 birds with one stone.
electrical engineering lab rat
As always, there are three important questions involved:
What is the heat load?
How cold do you want it?
Will that be Visa, MC, or Discover Card?
-gary
anti-corrosion = antifreeze
nope, not always... glycol isnt the anti corrosion part of a antifreeze... neither is alcohol... its in antifreeze to lower the point where water freezes up ... there are special additives in a system wich dont let corrosion occur, there are different types of antifreeze's, like for full aluminium systems, aluminium-s'steel, copper/ aluminium etc. i qould go for copper-aluminium systems antifreeze, a highly concentrated one. And i wouldnt use water to make it less dense but pure ethyl alcohol
anyone know how many posts you have to have in order to post pictures on here? I got a few, but i can't put them upOriginally posted by Gary Lloyd
mrnuke... Where are those pics you promised us?
well i can be xtra sure and have some anti corrosion in the water and anti freeze to be sure... what kinda stuff is out there that works berkut? or do u use it?Originally posted by berkut
nope, not always... glycol isnt the anti corrosion part of a antifreeze... neither is alcohol... its in antifreeze to lower the point where water freezes up ... there are special additives in a system wich dont let corrosion occur, there are different types of antifreeze's, like for full aluminium systems, aluminium-s'steel, copper/ aluminium etc. i qould go for copper-aluminium systems antifreeze, a highly concentrated one. And i wouldnt use water to make it less dense but pure ethyl alcohol
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hmmm i would use G40 or G60 (for VW) or how's it called anti freeze. And as pure as you can get ethyl alcohol like i said. Soon ill do some testing beacause im planning to build in a water chiller and direct die chipset cooler to the cascade.
Ive had it for quite some time...maeby after 20 posts or so.Originally posted by mrnuke
anyone know how many posts you have to have in order to post pictures on here? I got a few, but i can't put them up
cool cool cool!
damnit, it won't let me post pictures inbetween options and rate this fourm, there is supposed to be a picture one, but i don't have that option
Last edited by mrnuke; 11-23-2003 at 12:02 PM.
Excellent thread guys, nice pics, keep them coming
Damn, thats a perfect fit !
yeah, Gary mentioned it and it fit my demensions perfect. Does anyone know what liquid to use so it won't freeze up. I am guessiong i can get temps in the -40c range.
go w/ winter grade anti-freeze
dude how did u bend the tubes liek taht there so hard....and thats a exact replica of mine...have u put ne water in there yet or anti freeze?
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