Lynnfield 870, 860 and 750

[onethreehill]

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/c...13_301917.html
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[AuDioFreaK39]

Better translation.

Core i7 870, 850 and Core i5 750 coming soon



Upcoming LGA 1156 Lynnfield desktop SKUs

Back in June, Intel took the opportunity to share with the industry its focused approach to the naming scheme it will give its Core series processor lineup. Since its inception in the summer of 2006, the Intel Core brand lineup has progressed across several architectures and naming mechanisms all beginning with the same prefix.

Recently, Intel stated that its next generation socket LGA 1366 Bloomfield and LGA 1156 Lynnfield chips would be branded from high-end to entry-level as Core i7, Core i5 and Core i3 respectively. The high-end Core i7 branded chips will share sockets LGA 1366 for the Bloomfield quad-core 8-thread chips and LGA 1156 for the Lynnfield quad-core 8-thread chips. Core i7 Bloomfield chips launched in November use the Core i7 9xx modifier, while Core i7 Lynnfield chips will use the Core i7 8xx modifier.

The Core i5 performance-level brand will share both Lynnfield quad-core 4-thread chips and Clarkdale dual-core 4-thread chips that are yet to be announced. The entire brand will be operating on socket LGA 1156. As for the Core i3 entry-level brand, it will consist of all Clarkdale dual-core 4-thread chips that are yet to be announced. Finally, at the very bottom will be Pentium branded Clarkdale dual-core 2-thread chips running on LGA 1156 that are yet to be announced.

As for the bigger news, there will be three first upcoming LGA 1156 Lynnfield Core i7 and Core i5 desktop SKUs which are yet to be publicly announced by Intel. Sources at PC Watch in Japan state that they will be Core i7 870 2.93GHz, Core i7 860 2.80GHz, and Core i5 750 2.66GHz. All three models operate at a 95w TDP while Core i7 870 and 860 are quad-core 8-thread chips while Core i5 750 is a quad-core 4-thread chip respectively. As expected, the Core i5 version of Lynnfield does not support Simultaneous MultiThreading, and therefore it’s just a 4-thread CPU.

Back in January, we wrote that Intel was also planning to introduce low-power 65w TDP models of the Core i5 Lynnfield processors. This is still true, however, Intel has changed the TDP spec to 82w and plans to make low-power Core i7 chips as well. The first two models will launch in Q1 2010 and will be known as Core i7 860S 2.53GHz and Core i7 750S 2.4GHz.

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[Nerocz]

So basically the two top chips for i5 boards and P55 chipset are gonna be labeled Core i7 because they have hyperthreading?

[MomijiTMO]

Yes [that fact we already knew].

The 850 chip will sell well when they EOL the 920.

[Yakyb]

the big question is how much is the 860 going to cost ( nice to see they support virtualisation tho)

rough estimate $300??

[Nedjo]

800 series... told you so

also this numbering scheme imply that Linfield will go as far as 3.2 GHz:

860 - 2.8 GHz
870 - 2.93 GHz
880 - 3.06 GHz
890 - 3.2 GHz

I guess 32nm parts will have higher frequency and different nomenclature.

when it comes to prices this sound reasonable:

750 - $224
860 - $266
870 - $316
950 - $5++
975 - $999

[MomijiTMO]

the big question is how much is the 860 going to cost ( nice to see they support virtualisation tho)

rough estimate $300??

The mid range Lynnfield [2.8GHz] will be at the same price point as the 920.

[Yakyb]

The mid range Lynnfield [2.8GHz] will be at the same price point as the 920.

i can live with that thanks

(provided mobo is significantly less expensive i.e.~25% less)

[MomijiTMO]

Hmm like 100 at the most for upper market P55s. So is Lynnfield really worth it? Damn you Intel lol, why couldn't you have made Lynnfield 50 bucks cheaper than Bloomfield [920].

[perkam]

Unimpressed.

I was really hoping for sub-$200 models, even if they were non-HT

It's comforting to know that we'll finally have cheap(er) motherboards for these. Intel is milking the lack of competition to its chips very well, but then again, as did AMD back in Athlon X2 era

Perkam

[Nedjo]

Unimpressed.

I was really hoping for sub-$200 models, even if they were non-HT

It's comforting to know that we'll finally have cheap(er) motherboards for these. Intel is milking the lack of competition to its chips very well, but then again, as did AMD back in Athlon X2 era

Perkam

I wouldn't be surprised if i5 740 @ 2.53 GHz surface for $183... Intel need sub-200$ part to make LGA1156 popular and widespread. Only issue with this theory is that such CPU will make LGA775 platform completely absolute, and Intel still has huge amount of LGA775 chips.

[RPGWiZaRD]

I remember the non HT 2.66GHz SKU was said to cost $196 a while ago, whatever this is accurate or not (more like impossible to say at that time as things change all the time) I don't know but I'm expecting between 196 - $225 which is roughly same what I paid (189 EUR) for my E8400 at Penryn launch.

Personally I hope 860 will allow for easier 4.2~4.3GHz (200 - 205 BCLCK) stable clocks on air than 920.

[PatRaceTin]

i7 800 series may be interesting because it has lower TDP than i7 900 series (on air /water overclock)

[Chri$ch]

Yes, the Lynnfield w/o HT cost 196$

[labs23]

Unimpressed.
I was really hoping for sub-$200 models, even if they were non-HT

+1 .
Because why are they making this new 1156 socket board which is a lil ripped off of functionality(dual channel) over 1366,
if the 1156 cpus are still priced at that level? Intel would'nt have to make another socket, instead they could've just populate the entire s1366 cpu line-up by now.

Edit
I'm glad i haven't done the upgrade for i7 yet, I want that 860.

[twwen2]

Methinks the core i7 860 will take the bang-for-buck crown. Looking good!

[RPGWiZaRD]

Methinks the core i7 860 will take the bang-for-buck crown. Looking good!

Perhaps not instantly but it might be the next Q6600 that many people have hung onto forever...

[MomijiTMO]

Yeah well I'm in no hurry so I'll wait for tests. Of course, the 920 could face price rises thanks to etailers in the know. . ..

[Current Q6600 user]

[Nedjo]

Yes, the Lynnfield w/o HT cost 196$

those prices looks fishy... it makes no sense for i7 870 and i7 950 to cost same!

[MomijiTMO]

That's because apparently Intel plans to eol the 920 and 950 when 870 and 860 launch or soon after. The Xeons equivalents will still be available though.

[HKPolice]

That's because apparently Intel plans to eol the 920 and 950 when 870 and 860 launch or soon after. The Xeons equivalents will still be available though.

I have a feeling that the Xeon 920 equivalents produced after the 920 EOL date will clock worse because the 920 is the best selling bloomfield chip so I'm sure there are lots of chips that were binned for 940/950/965 speeds that were packaged as a 920 because of high demand for 920 and low demand for the higher grades.

[labs23]

That's because apparently Intel plans to eol the 920 and 950 when 870 and 860 launch or soon after. The Xeons equivalents will still be available though.

Is the EOL final? I mean the i7 920, 940, and 950, will say goodbye by the time the i7 1156 are released, because of the pricing. And, will this also mean that all of what is going to be left of the i7 1366 is the XE?

So it seems Intel isolating S1366 just for the high-end? Making much more sense on the 1366-hexa-core path.

[MomijiTMO]

I have a feeling that the Xeon 920 equivalents produced after the 920 EOL date will clock worse because the 920 is the best selling bloomfield chip so I'm sure there are lots of chips that were binned for 940/950/965 speeds that were packaged as a 920 because of high demand for 920 and low demand for the higher grades.

Yeah that could happen.

Well played Intel. Damn you lol.

Is the EOL final? I mean the i7 920, 940, and 950, will say goodbye by the time the i7 1156 are released, because of the pricing. And, will this also mean that all of what is going to be left of the i7 1366 is the XE?

So it seems Intel isolating S1366 just for the high-end? Making much more sense on the 1366-hexa-core path.

No one knows for sure. Bit Tech said yes then no then yes so my guess is as good as yours. This is primarily a server platform and it's obvious that Intel will make more money on Lynnfield than Bloomfield so they are going to push that.

[I'm just a normal dude. I have no knowledge of what is going to happen, that's better left to other guys who have posted info in this thread]

[perkam]

Is the EOL final? I mean the i7 920, 940, and 950, will say goodbye by the time the i7 1156 are released, because of the pricing. And, will this also mean that all of what is going to be left of the i7 1366 is the XE?

So it seems Intel isolating S1366 just for the high-end? Making much more sense on the 1366-hexa-core path.

There was no way Gulfy was coming to P55 or P57 anyway.

It's originally a Dual 1366 part. But even its 1366 variant I doubt, seeing as Intel doesn't need anything else right now to keep AMD at bay, at least until late 2010 when Bulldozer finally rears its lazy head.

Perkam

[geo]

Yes, the Lynnfield w/o HT cost 196$

if thats correct, is HT worth another $90 ?