nice box boss .. I didnīt read the ppd output
nice box boss .. I didnīt read the ppd output
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Woody: It's not a laser! It's a... [sighs in frustration]
I have one of these: an AM2 Retention Mount Adapter Kit for Socket AM2/AM2+/AM3 from Prolimatech (for the megahalems) that I am going try out with my TRUE. I'll let you know if it works (which would be good).
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The only thing future proof in electronics, is the electricity itself.
Any one who relies on only one source of information is a fool.
You try and be honest with yourself and others as much as possible. What I've seen here is that although the computational power of the i7 is greater at the same speeds the effective seen speed isn't any different for normal everyday usage.
I said smoothe a few times in this thread and that is the perception. The flow from screen to screen is smoother than on my Intels.
The feeling when using it is less of a mechanical feeling and more of a natural one. There is no provable logic to this but that is what is felt on this system.
They really hit it right with this system and give credit to AMD or Gigabyte or both, I don't know, but it works and works well.
When all is said and done, that is what matters for everyday usage.
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Yeah pretty much the one thing that draws me to X58 is the ability to run both CF and SLI.
The thing i like about PH II is they are a little cheaper overall and seem to be much cooler running.
Plus have read when oc,ed they are on par with the s775,s performance wise.
And im satisfied with the performance of my Q66.
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Any one who relies on only one source of information is a fool.
I'm really happy to see a respected Intel guy try a PhenomII...
Just be careful with the smooth word MM, it's gotten me in trouble with the Blue crowd a number of times...
Glad to see your enjoying your new rig, I'm sure I7 is fun to play with too but I'm an unapologetic AMD fan... Nice to see you give PHII some honest, personal experience props.
I spent $100 on my 550 X2, it unlocks to an X4 and clocks to 3.9Ghz!
It's really hard to dismiss the Price/performance value of my chip even if it is all a crap shoot....
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Thanks guys..
Sometimes we focus too much on numbers and is this one 2.5% better than that one where the reality is in "how much fun is the machine to use every day?"
On the machines I use for DC work I do look from the viewpoint of production/time/electrical cost but for a daily driver I don't.
I want a cool running, reasonably quiet, reasonably powerfull machine at a stable speed that I can count on every day.
This seems to be that machine from what I've seen so far.
As to an "Intel guy" that is a improper perception.
I buy what I think is best at the time and blue or green isn't an issue. Just a machine to do what I need from it.
Same with video cards.. I have both ATI and nVidia..
I have no loyalty to either, just what is the best for the usage at the time.
This is why it frustrates the living sheet out of me to see people that absolutely have their eyes closed to anything but what they love..fanboyism to a company is the worst mistake anyone can make.
Buy what you like, what you can afford and what makes you happy and the hell with what anyone else says.
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nice system you got........
for most cases it is not difficult to buy computer parts Money or brand or feature etc.
This
We have very similar POV despite age difference (not to mention geographical distance). I'm using AMD hardware right now because that's what I like. It's not as widespread as Intel and different to it. But I'm giving Intel full credit for bringing such a monster CPU as i7 is! If I will need that much power I will buy it!
I have my favorite CPU brand, but that doesn't stop me from typing this post on a C2D laptop. I bought Atom based nettop for my wife because that platform suited her needs best!
I'm basically loyal to brand as far as it fits within my needs.
In the end we all should be more or less fans of hardware/brands which suits us, but not fanboys whose only endlessly argue opposite side arguments without even trying to look at it from different POV.
If ever I will go to U.S. I would like to meet you and have some chat and beer! (not to mention torture a bit your Dualies!!! )
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I noticed that with my old AMD machine as well (X2 3800+, M2N-SLI Deluxe, 2GB DDR2-800, Raptor 74GB drive). It just "felt" fast. For normal Windows usage it seemed to run smoother than the E6600, Q6700, E8400, Q9550, and now the i7 920 that came after it.
They're all faster gaming chips, naturally, and I've had progressively faster GPUs, but it just surprised me how much more sluggish Windows felt with the Intel chips even though the Intel machines all had 4GB of DDR2-1000 or higher.
EDIT: And it's awesome that AMD is finally making a competitive product. A lot more people are running AMD than there used to be a year or two ago. Good for them!
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This perceived speed difference thing is really making me wonder. Do AMD CPUs process the Windows GUI/interface differently somehow? Maybe there are differences there in the way different CPUs handle different web browsers. AMD Phenoms are uber fast with Firefox for some reason. Browsers have been benchmarked and I think there are explanations as to why, but what can we do to test CPUs this way? I always figured AMD's HyperTransport smoothed things out when compared to FSB based Intel CPUs, but now yall are saying they seem faster than Core i7s. As I believe humans are capable of perceiving a lot, there has to be some way to test what this difference is.
especially cpu intensive games such as: solitare
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I have had a wide variety of components, from Intel, AMD, Nvidia, Ati. I just enjoy computer hardware, and tweaking it to the best of my abilities.
I have no respect for people that are close minded to the other side. I just comes down to the fact the AMD is a blast to tinker with, and I think Dave just found out why.
I will look forward to further updates.
BTW: How old are you Dave....really? I am errr......41 myself.
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The reason I don't like intel at the moment is that they are too darned easy to OC... I mean, my E8400 shot sky high with zero effort. I literally had my E8400 4Ghz stable in less than a week of testing. That's not really a "bad" thing, but how boring is that? A week and I already am done?
I've had my 720BE for a couple months now and I'm still tweaking in my OC. Now that is value... entertainment value
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Here's an interesting obsevation for you guys;
I've had the 940 system crunching WCG @3407mhz for the last 30 hours straight and the "credits per cpu second" are almost identical to my gainestown at 3458mhz..
I mean so close it's comical.
Now the gainestown has HT enabled so that is a factor but what it is showing me is the true power of the AMD system.
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