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    T.Rex, real Vgpu max with soft is ~1,49V (due to the IC). You can move the slider forward, but Vgpu doesn't rise
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    Quote Originally Posted by ceemic View Post
    T.Rex, real Vgpu max with soft is ~1,49V (due to the IC). You can move the slider forward, but Vgpu doesn't rise
    oh,i dont knew that,but at this 1.49v i think 1325mhz is nice
    but maybe its the reason to the bad performance
    like it need more voltage ?


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    your canyon looks weak
    but i dont know AMD CPUs very well
    it would be nice if you had Intel tests as well
    1.4v is the limit actually not 1.49v
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    Quote Originally Posted by T.Rex View Post
    oh,i dont knew that,but at this 1.49v i think 1325mhz is nice
    but maybe its the reason to the bad performance
    like it need more voltage ?
    can you measure to confirm if the voltage applies or not?

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    rivatuner report ? of 1325MHZ
    why (ur/watch) stop all performance,at (MAX MHZ SET) in bios,(ur/watch)/gpu has a limit.
    i can clock high to,but gives no more in 3d,but more voltset help
    within the max limit of (ur/watch).

    next time you hit 1325MHZ ,get a rivatuner report to

    you ned a (ur/watch)which goes up to 1400/1500 MHz to the gpu max set, so I will show you a boost you get in performance
    so max must be in 1100 with this (ur/watch) here, http://forums.techpowerup.com/attach...8&d=1245187251

    had the same problem with the 3870x2 and (ur/watch) http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=805978 oc proceeded to watch the service was to fall, even with more volts .

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    dinos22, I just rechecked Vgpu on my Sapphire and it reads ~1,488V under load. I use GPUTool to change Vgpu...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinos22 View Post
    1.4v is the limit actually not 1.49v
    using which software?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin.v.r View Post
    rivatuner report ? of 1325MHZ
    why (ur/watch) stop all performance,at (MAX MHZ SET) in bios,(ur/watch)/gpu has a limit.
    i can clock high to,but gives no more in 3d,but more voltset help
    within the max limit of (ur/watch).

    next time you hit 1325MHZ ,get a rivatuner report to

    you ned a (ur/watch)which goes up to 1400/1500 MHz to the gpu max set, so I will show you a boost you get in performance
    so max must be in 1100 with this (ur/watch) here, http://forums.techpowerup.com/attach...8&d=1245187251

    had the same problem with the 3870x2 and (ur/watch) http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=805978 oc proceeded to watch the service was to fall, even with more volts .

    using XP 32BIT GPUTOOL ver:0.0.0 to a MSI 4890 OC
    i just got my new asus re,and test it later,then i use this 4890 and see what happens but 1.4v is nothing norm is about 1.31v,but martin i call you when im ready and then we can have a talk about it


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    ok T.REX
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinos22 View Post
    your canyon looks weak
    but i dont know AMD CPUs very well
    it would be nice if you had Intel tests as well
    1.4v is the limit actually not 1.49v
    And you would be 100% correct except for voltage under normal circumstances.

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    ATI cards can be funny when pushed too hard or at the wrong clocks

    but he very well may have a card that is capable of benching with stable 3D numbers past 1250 who knows heh

    to be honest 1.4v was something i was told recently. i benched 4890s and have returned them since without checking with DMM but if it says 1.488v that should be pretty good for high LN2 clocks
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinos22 View Post
    ATI cards can be funny when pushed too hard or at the wrong clocks
    You nailed that on the head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinos22 View Post
    your canyon looks weak
    but i dont know AMD CPUs very well
    it would be nice if you had Intel tests as well
    1.4v is the limit actually not 1.49v
    As others said, not true

    What's the actual limit? Did go up to 1.53v so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ownage View Post
    Did go up to 1.53v so far.
    Measured with DMM?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ceemic View Post
    Measured with DMM?
    Nope, but the program also reports the current voltage is 1.53v. I know it doesn't have to be reliable. Will do more testing next week, with DMM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SF3D View Post
    Brandy- What was the temperature and model of the card? Stock bios without mods and what was the core voltage?

    This thread is not about these rare LN2 clocks. If 100/100 cards would do 1200MHz on LN2 out of the box, then this thread would be worthless

    When this bios will be in public use, we will see some sick overclokcs for sure.
    Do you have any news for us?? Updates please!!
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    Petri and me tested the bios thursday-night, but it's not all positive news. I'm not sure if I can talk about this ... so you'll have to wait for SF3D to update.
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    Quote Originally Posted by massman View Post
    Petri and me tested the bios thursday-night, but it's not all positive news. I'm not sure if I can talk about this ... so you'll have to wait for SF3D to update.
    Hmm even more interesting....maybe I should just release my bios once it's served its purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    Hmm even more interesting....maybe I should just release my bios once it's served its purpose.
    What seems to be the hold-up??
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    Quote Originally Posted by runmc View Post
    What seems to be the hold-up??
    I have some 3d to tackle....how screwed would that be if someone beat me before I got a chance to fully utilyze it myself
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    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    I have some 3d to tackle....how screwed would that be if someone beat me before I got a chance to fully utilyze it myself
    LOL - not to cool I don't blame you chew*. Milk that baby for all it's worth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chew* View Post
    Hmm even more interesting....maybe I should just release my bios once it's served its purpose.
    Well, the issues we ran into were most definitly interesting.

    Would the only reason not to make your bios public be that you don't want others to beat you before you can make any results? Because ... that's not the reason why this one isn't made public yet
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    Quote Originally Posted by massman View Post
    Well, the issues we ran into were most definitly interesting.

    Would the only reason not to make your bios public be that you don't want others to beat you before you can make any results? Because ... that's not the reason why this one isn't made public yet
    Yah no problems with this bios toasting anything not that that bios your on did at least I hope it didn't.

    I to have tested on a stack of cards.....other than the weird screen over 1065 core....no issues. Of course I have not played cold on them but I doubt it will make a diff.....I know there is a bug just haven't found it yet. The screen issue is funky to.....03 gives gray/darker gray lines......vantage is hilarious a colorful reddish/orange/pink screen with an AMD logo.

    Software clock the cards easily higher.......however according to results well USE whats fast......not what you think is fast. Canyon points to the fact that software is not working.
    Vantage screen stutters like crazy when loading using software.....scores lower......

    This bios was done solely by me no outside help, It also only works on ref cards...
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    These secret BIOS' hardly matter considering how much power there is in 4x HD4890 at 1GHz, let alone stock. This is like HD4870x2 CFX, you are already CPU bottlenecked at 850/950 and see scaling in only 03. Plus chew*, you need LHe to be competitive on AMD

    What we need is another Vantage to even things out, Vantage sort of keeps scaling, especially High/Extreme, so where is 3DMark2010?

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    ehh scaling dies at 6.2 with 2 cards...till you increase clocks over 1000/1150....then they scale again.

    As for Lhe...eh 6390 3d stable on ln2 nothing to cry about.....see If i can push the bar higher in the future.....
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