Intel brings forward schedule for Clarkdale CPUs to 4Q09

[onethreehill]

Intel has brought forward the mass-production schedule of its new 32nm processor codenamed Clarkdale to the fourth quarter of 2009 from the originally planned first quarter of 2010, according to sources from motherboard makers.

The company's 32nm Clarkdale CPUs will account for 10% of Intel's total OEM desktop CPU shipments in the fourth quarter, while 45nm Core i7 processors will account for 1%, Lynnfield-based processor 2%, Core 2 Quad processors 9%, Core 2 Duo E8000/E7000 series processors 35%, Pentium E5000/E6000 series 31%, Celeron E3000 and Atom series together 8%, and 65nm-based Pentium E2000 and Celeron 400 together 4%.

In the first quarter of 2010, the proportion of Clarkdale-based CPUs will rise to 20%, while 45nm-based processors will account for 78%, and 65nm-based Celeron 400 series will drop to only 2%, the sources noted.

Intel declined the opportunity to respond to this report saying it cannot comment on unannounced products.

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20090629PD207.html

[Shintai]

Its a repost. And its not news.

[perkam]

Its a repost. And its not news.

It's OTH, I doubt its a repost

State your evidence, Mr. Shintai.

Perkam

[Marduk_25]

It's OTH, I doubt its a repost

State your evidence, Mr. Shintai.

Perkam

[***Deimos***]

High expectations for Clarkdale.

Repeatedly Intel promised proper IGP with G35 and G45, only to fall flat on face. AMD/nVidia solutions are defacto standard.

But its not just performance or infamous driver stability and compatibility. For a decade Intel tried branding "Intel xtreme graphics" to horrifying failure as real gamers ridiculed gulible ePC owners trying to play Unreal Tournament with frag after frag in their face.

Hopefully, Clarkdale lower costs will bring prices further down. I dont think anybody expects 3DMark records from this mainstream part, but I hope Intel hasn't engineered any anti-overclocking features to precent 4Ghz on AIR.

Maybe notebooks with 6 or even 8 hour battery life will become the new norm... maybe...

[terrace215]

Clarkdale is a desktop part.

Arrandale is the mobile equivalent.


Intel's slide from a while back shows ~2.5 times more performance than their current best IGP performance, and IIRC, Dr. Who? has suggested that is a "minimum" promise, and that overclocking will deliver surprisingly nice results here.

[saaya]

interesting numbers...
i remember that intel originally planned core i7 cpus to reach 5% of their sold cpus in 2009... now they expect 1%... ouch... and 1% could be anything below 1% as well, cause they would never say they expect .3%...

so they basically expect 1156 lynnfields to fail and only the cheapo 1156 clarkdale chips with big oem orders will actually reach reasonable market share?
makes sense... so nehalem cpus will never reach a real notable market share... westmere might...

[saaya]

Intel's slide from a while back shows ~2.5 times more performance than their current best IGP performance, and IIRC, Dr. Who? has suggested that is a "minimum" promise, and that overclocking will deliver surprisingly nice results here.

i havent actually tested it but im pretty sure its UP TO 2.5x...
what i do know is that its HOT... and imo intel completely missed the point here...

they have larrabee for performance, and they have igp to cater to the semgnets where power efficiency and price matters... and what do they do? they develop a huge power hungry, much better than before but still sucky igp... wow... so where can you use it? its still slow, its too hot for laptops really, and faster than any office pc will need which is basically ok with 2d graphics and some super basic 3d for vista and win7 interfaces... and its way too slow for actual gaming... i really dont get what the point of this igp is supposed to be...

[drjunk]

i havent actually tested it but im pretty sure its UP TO 2.5x...
what i do know is that its HOT... and imo intel completely missed the point here...

they have larrabee for performance, and they have igp to cater to the semgnets where power efficiency and price matters... and what do they do? they develop a huge power hungry, much better than before but still sucky igp... wow... so where can you use it? its still slow, its too hot for laptops really, and faster than any office pc will need which is basically ok with 2d graphics and some super basic 3d for vista and win7 interfaces... and its way too slow for actual gaming... i really dont get what the point of this igp is supposed to be...

I take it that the igp disables when playing a game using a dedecated gfx card?...in which case if the cpu is overclocked, then there shouldnt be any added heat from the igp....correct me if im wrong

[metro.cl]

i havent actually tested it but im pretty sure its UP TO 2.5x...
what i do know is that its HOT... and imo intel completely missed the point here...

they have larrabee for performance, and they have igp to cater to the semgnets where power efficiency and price matters... and what do they do? they develop a huge power hungry, much better than before but still sucky igp... wow... so where can you use it? its still slow, its too hot for laptops really, and faster than any office pc will need which is basically ok with 2d graphics and some super basic 3d for vista and win7 interfaces... and its way too slow for actual gaming... i really dont get what the point of this igp is supposed to be...

HD playback? isn't it the only purpose for crappy IGPs?

[Shintai]

High expectations for Clarkdale.

Repeatedly Intel promised proper IGP with G35 and G45, only to fall flat on face. AMD/nVidia solutions are defacto standard.

But its not just performance or infamous driver stability and compatibility. For a decade Intel tried branding "Intel xtreme graphics" to horrifying failure as real gamers ridiculed gulible ePC owners trying to play Unreal Tournament with frag after frag in their face.

Hopefully, Clarkdale lower costs will bring prices further down. I dont think anybody expects 3DMark records from this mainstream part, but I hope Intel hasn't engineered any anti-overclocking features to precent 4Ghz on AIR.

Maybe notebooks with 6 or even 8 hour battery life will become the new norm... maybe...

Whats wrong with Intels IGP besides gaming? And nVidia/AMD solutions there aint exactly fantastic. In terms of gaming its junk or crap when picking any IGP.

But looking on the rest of your post. You seem to have an issue...

i havent actually tested it but im pretty sure its UP TO 2.5x...
what i do know is that its HOT... and imo intel completely missed the point here...

they have larrabee for performance, and they have igp to cater to the semgnets where power efficiency and price matters... and what do they do? they develop a huge power hungry, much better than before but still sucky igp... wow... so where can you use it? its still slow, its too hot for laptops really, and faster than any office pc will need which is basically ok with 2d graphics and some super basic 3d for vista and win7 interfaces... and its way too slow for actual gaming... i really dont get what the point of this igp is supposed to be...

Thats why Clarkdale TDP is so high? Oh wait..it aint....

[labs23]

Why the hurry Intel? Feeling late now eh?

Oh wait, Clarkdale o be released on Q4 09, then a 20% rise on Q1 2010? They must be ramping up the manufacturing pretty fast. They'll be seeing overstocks, unless its decent in price/performance.

Hope they pull nice numbers on that chip, because one more player at the IGP sector is going to help. If not on the performance, well at least on the prices.

[saaya]

I take it that the igp disables when playing a game using a dedecated gfx card?...in which case if the cpu is overclocked, then there shouldnt be any added heat from the igp....correct me if im wrong

yes and no, the igp partially shuts down, but its in the same chip as the memory controller and system hub... so it will still consume more power... not much though, maybe only 10-20W...

HD playback? isn't it the only purpose for crappy IGPs?

and they fail at that ^^
the new igp will def be able to cope with 1080P, but you dont need such a big and power hungry igp to do that...

Thats why Clarkdale TDP is so high? Oh wait..it aint....

for a desktop is ok and masked by the tdp of the cpu, for a laptop... forget about it... i doubt there will be any laptops with that igp at all...

and thats plain stupid from intel... its all about laptops and mobility and they focus on an igp chipset that runs hot and has better but still not good enough 3d performance... whats the point? who do they think will buy all those desktop igp parts? businesses right? and what do they need better but still sucky 3d graphics for exactly?

its really really stupid... they have to graphics divisions, and instead of having one expertise on low power and mobility and price perf and the other on performance and high power, they give both almost the same direction... whats the point?

its like telling your mobile cpu division to go nuts on tdp and develop a performance cpu within a 65W envelope... why would you do that?

[Chrono Detector]

I want Core i9 to be released in Q4 instead. But oh well, guess I can wait.

[Shintai]

yes and no, the igp partially shuts down, but its in the same chip as the memory controller and system hub... so it will still consume more power... not much though, maybe only 10-20W...

and they fail at that ^^
the new igp will def be able to cope with 1080P, but you dont need such a big and power hungry igp to do that...


for a desktop is ok and masked by the tdp of the cpu, for a laptop... forget about it... i doubt there will be any laptops with that igp at all...

and thats plain stupid from intel... its all about laptops and mobility and they focus on an igp chipset that runs hot and has better but still not good enough 3d performance... whats the point? who do they think will buy all those desktop igp parts? businesses right? and what do they need better but still sucky 3d graphics for exactly?

its really really stupid... they have to graphics divisions, and instead of having one expertise on low power and mobility and price perf and the other on performance and high power, they give both almost the same direction... whats the point?

its like telling your mobile cpu division to go nuts on tdp and develop a performance cpu within a 65W envelope... why would you do that?

Honestly Saaya...you just spray useless BS now. You obviously dont have a clarkdale CPU or arandale...

[Anemone]

Based on the estimated top Clark Mobile quad speed of 2.0 and the current mobile quad 2.53, I don't think this is going to do anything all that amazing for the mobile arena. Even a 2.66 920 generates 130TDP, so 2.0 is a pretty reasonable prediction of top speed bin.

Have to wait and see, but I'm thinking a lot of folks are going to find the current C2D and C2Q to be plenty for mobile solutions.

[TheCarLessDriven]

When are 6 core, and 8 core chips coming around? I know intel has had working 8 core chips for years.

[breathemetal]

so whens the next big cpu come out?

its i7 right now...what tomorow?

[570091D]

Honestly Saaya...you just spray useless BS now. You obviously dont have a clarkdale CPU or arandale...

do you have one? if you do, what is the tdp for the igp? links? i'm not saying you're wrong and saaya is right, but you are claiming he's full of bs without providing proof.

though i can see saaya's point, most business' only need the power of a duel core atom+965g. if intel really has increased the power consumption and heat output of thier economy cpu without adding any usefull features for business', then intel might find it has quite a problem come q2 '10.

edit:

so whens the next big cpu come out?

its i7 right now...what tomorow?

core i9, 6 core for 1366, due out in q1 '10

[TheCarLessDriven]

core i9, 6 core for 1366, due out in q1 '10

omg, really!?!? Its gonna work with current 1366 x58 mobos!?

[dinos22]

omg, really!?!? Its gonna work with current 1366 x58 mobos!?

yeah it should

[Shintai]

Based on the estimated top Clark Mobile quad speed of 2.0 and the current mobile quad 2.53, I don't think this is going to do anything all that amazing for the mobile arena. Even a 2.66 920 generates 130TDP, so 2.0 is a pretty reasonable prediction of top speed bin.

Have to wait and see, but I'm thinking a lot of folks are going to find the current C2D and C2Q to be plenty for mobile solutions.

The 2Ghz mobile quad can do turbomode up to 3.6Ghz tho.

And a 2.93Ghz Lynnfield is 95W. With 65W coming later. A 2.66 Bloomfield just shares family TDP.

[duploxxx]

The 2Ghz mobile quad can do turbomode up to 3.6Ghz tho.

keep on dreaming that will ever happen in a laptop but real good fanboy talk

its btw only 1 core and it's upto 3.2ghz

[Jamesrt2004]

is clarkdale i5 32nm?

i always forget D=

[Shintai]

is clarkdale i5 32nm?

Clarkdale is a dualcore 32nm Westmere arch (With and without HT). With a 45nm NB with IGP in an MCM design.