Six-core Nehalem coming to LGA 1366 this year

[poke349]

the problem is not developers not multi-threading games. Its that graphics hardware is so far behind CPU hardware the NO game is ever CPU limited unless you are playing at less than 1680x1050 on very powerful graphics hardware. This is true of even a dual core.

Strategy games tend to be a lot more CPU intensive.

If I create enough units, I can easily lag even Red Alert 2 and Age of Empires 2 on my rig... Which is where I'd like to see them multithread.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

Strategy games tend to be a lot more CPU intensive.

If I create enough units, I can easily Red Alert 2 and Age of Empires 2 to lag on 3.2GHz Core 2's... Which is where I'd like to see them multithread.

well, lets revise it to not many games I was thinking in terms of graphically intensive games

[poke349]

well, lets revise it to not many games I was thinking in terms of graphically intensive games

Good call... Yes, even Crysis barely puts any load on the CPU when compared to an old strategy games with like 5000 units on the field...

And don't ask me why I'll have 5000+ units out at a time... Everyone has their ways of entertaining themselves.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

Good call... Yes, even Crysis barely puts any load on the CPU when compared to an old strategy games with like 5000 units on the field...

And don't ask me why I'll have 5000+ units out at a time... Everyone has their ways of entertaining themselves.

Its like when you use the cheat commands to spawn 8 boomers, smokers, hunters, and tanks at the same time right?

[poke349]

Its like when you use the cheat commands to spawn 8 boomers, smokers, hunters, and tanks at the same time right?

naaah.... That's WAAAAAAYYYYY TOOOOOOO SLOOOOWW...

Custom maps with triggers is a MUCH better way...

This is one of the reasons why I was swayed away from Starcraft and it's annoying 1640 unit limit...

[orangekiwii]

massively cpu limited game and awesome potential for huge mothaf-in armies...

Supreme Commander


totally epic game

[Chad Boga]

Stick with your little dual cores and games, other people have better things to do.

He specifically mentions he wants faster Quads and you then go and make snide comments about him advocating for Dual cores, what kind of behaviour is this?

[grimREEFER]

Yeah, six cores, 12 threads, 32nm...... and 2 games that will make any use of it....lol

dont blame intel for making faster cpu's, blame games for being crap

[ILikeCosmosS]

warcraft 3 puts my cpu on 100% load (p4) and lags in footman frenzy custom game while other games the gpu is on more load

as long as i see a affordable 1 i going to go buy to upgrade my i7 after summer

[Movieman]

You guys know I don't game but last night for sheets and giggles I gave 3DMark06 a shot on the gainestown rig.
Single 192 shader GTX260 and max I went was 670/1240 on the card..
great graphics running at well over 100FPS so I'd guess this will game also..

[MomijiTMO]

Just to chime in on the whole 6 core 4 crunchers union or whatever it is but you cannot expect people to not raise an eyebrow when people who we all respect say stuff like,

To all of you who don't need more cores and are happy with Dualies, fine - just keep out of people's way that are trying to make a difference by crunching.

That is the nicest put down I've ever read lol.

So what am I getting to? Don't prod people and then be surprised when they react. [=



Now back to this 6 core beast - if a lot of people are crying with high temps on their 920s so I fear how hot these guys will be with a high oc.

Regarding games, Supreme Commander makes my computer scream in pain with a high unit cap. The computer will build 200 troops and then steamroll them through your base . . . . totally destroying my cpu.

[ILikeCosmosS]

momi the temps probably will be more crazy leading too people going farther then Ln2 to get 1-4 kelvins to OC them, but of course most people wont

[570091D]

Good call... Yes, even Crysis barely puts any load on the CPU when compared to an old strategy games with like 5000 units on the field...

And don't ask me why I'll have 5000+ units out at a time... Everyone has their ways of entertaining themselves.

i'm with you there!

i'm excited about this six-core, i've been waiting for this processor to make the transition to lga1366. but, if i had to throw a dart at the callander for a release date, i'd be aiming for november. i'm willing to bet that intel will want to work the kinks out of the 32mn process with this processor because there will be far less volume than the duel core + graphics cpu.

[poke349]

You guys know I don't game but last night for sheets and giggles I gave 3DMark06 a shot on the gainestown rig.
Single 192 shader GTX260 and max I went was 670/1240 on the card..
great graphics running at well over 100FPS so I'd guess this will game also..

Of course it will.

My dual-harpers with a 9800 GTX+ runs Crysis fine on high. (not max though...)
Your dual X5560s with a 260 is better in every single aspect... except for memory quantity... which doesn't matter in this case.

[Movieman]

Of course it will.

My dual-harpers with a 9800 GTX+ runs Crysis fine on high. (not max though...)
Your dual X5560s with a 260 is better in every single aspect... except for memory quantity... which doesn't matter in this case.

My best at 06 on the gainestown with a single GTX260

[Anemone]

Let me throw one interesting tidbit out there for those who know the world is still 1 and 2 threaded... Lynnfield has far improved scaling in turbo modes with fewer cores. It doesn't take much to think that if you put 6 cores @ 3.33 on 32nm with a 130w TDP imagine if you could scale that down to 2 or 3 cores running at 4.0+ when the threads get reduced.

That said, let me highlight what a dirty PC world we live in now. Your GAME might run on 2 threads, but your sound, video driver, and background tasks can all get cores if they are available. Gone are the days where the only background app was a single antivirus program. Modern PC's might have a dozen or more apps sitting the background for chat, firewall, printer utilities, wireless, bluetooth, FRAPS, and so forth. Even high end USB parts, gaming mice, and such, use some cycles. I don't see this trend slowing down. Now imagine what such a chip would be like 2 years from now.

So just some food for thought before thinking there are zero uses for 6 core machines.

As for availability, since EE chips tend to sell in low quantities anyway, it's not impossible to imagine that the EE Gulftown shows up in a few months and the lower end 920/950 replacements come sometime next year.

$.02


ps: Also allow for the potential that the memory controller might have been refined somewhat. Would be funny if the EE's could do 1600 natively eh?

[poke349]

My best at 06 on the gainestown with a single GTX260

I'd run the same bench right now to see how they'd compare with yours... but my rig is in the middle of a week-long code-testing session @ 100% cpu and 95% ram...
And it won't be done until Friday...

[chris.c]

To all of you who don't need more cores and are happy with Dualies, fine - just keep out of people's way that are trying to make a difference by crunching.

Sort of ironic that unless your computer(s) is solar powered, you'd be making our world a better place by turning your stuff off when it isn't used, instead of running it at full blast. Keep telling yourself you're doing us a benevolent service by burning more coal or using more uranium to run your systems for a trivial cause that's yielded no appreciable benefit to society.

[gOJDO]

Why would you even consider the 950 if you already have a 920?

For no objective reason. Subjective reasons are that it has a better stepping(D0, instead of C0/C1) and it OCs more than my 920 although I would not notice any difference between my current 24/7 4.2GHz and 4.6GHz with the 950.

[Chrono Detector]

Sounds good, but knowing Intel they would charge an arm and leg for this. And hopefully AMD will release one soon after as well, since they already have a 6 core server CPU they will most likely make a desktop variant as well.

[inCore]

Sort of ironic that unless your computer(s) is solar powered, you'd be making our world a better place by turning your stuff off when it isn't used, instead of running it at full blast. Keep telling yourself you're doing us a benevolent service by burning more coal or using more uranium to run your systems for a trivial cause that's yielded no appreciable benefit to society.

When half your family has died of cancer, you stop caring so much about the environment.

[jcool]

When half your family has died of cancer, you stop caring so much about the environment.

Yeah... still, I am working to set up some solar panels that can power the rigs. And if I ever build a home for myself it will have huge solar power capacity, a basement for all the rigs with valves to dump their heat into the heating system, and no conventional central heating based on burning oil or gas

[kl0012]

When half your family has died of cancer, you stop caring so much about the environment.

+1


People don't care too much about the enviroment when playing games with CF/SLI (sucking power like mad). Here is new slogan: "Reduce FSAA/AF - save trees"

[Shintai]

When half your family has died of cancer, you stop caring so much about the environment.

I have had 5 people dying of cancer. Including my mother. However alot of people die of cancer due to smoking, particles from cars and coal/petro power plants etc.

So for me the environment comes before. Also due to changes in the environment kills even more. However we still need to cure cancer or find some vaccine.

The 32nm 6 Core should also take less space and use same or less power than a 45nm i7. So its a bonus all the way around. Nomatter if you fold or not.

[johnp1983]

Seriously... I don't believe bit.tech anymore in regards to i7 news.

That's just trash-rumors just to improve click-counter.