Six-core Nehalem coming to LGA 1366 this year

[[XC] gomeler]

sell 975 at Christmas and get new EE for 200-300 dollars more investment....

$200-$300? EE chips depreciate ~50% when the latest and greatest comes out, so try $500 minimum.

[Movieman]

Tell us more, you meanie . Will you be seeing an ES by then or what can we expect in July?

there's an old line that goes like this:
"Ask me no questions and I'll tell you no lies"
As to chips, you never know. Sometimes things show up as planned and sometimes they don't.
hell, I've been looking for an unlocked pair of gainestowns for 2 months with no luck.
They do exist but that doesn't mean I can find them and also you get the money factor involved.
I'm not rich so even times when items become available it depends on whether the other person is looking to make thousands on the deal.

[Power5]

Stays sold out from so many folks buying them!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819117182

In stock.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819117184

Next model up not worth the price for 133MHz more.

Wow, only Intel can get away with how much they charge for the small increase in mhz in their lineup.

[CraptacularOne]

Six Core + 12 Threads + 32nm = Godlike :P

Yeah, six cores, 12 threads, 32nm...... and 2 games that will make any use of it....lol

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

Yeah, six cores, 12 threads, 32nm...... and 2 games that will make any use of it....lol

some of us have found the joy of crunching to help humanity, this will certainly make use of it. You didn't really buy that fancy i7 8-thread rig with all that horsepower just to play some silly video games did you?

$200-$300? EE chips depreciate ~50% when the latest and greatest comes out, so try $500 minimum.

thats why you keep your ear to the ground and sell a few weeks shy of release

[Shintai]

Yeah, six cores, 12 threads, 32nm...... and 2 games that will make any use of it....lol

Its the chicken and the egg syndrome. It needs to be there before they code for it. So one has to do the first step and its almost always the hardware companies.

[Hornet331]

some of us have found the joy of crunching to help humanity, this will certainly make use of it. You didn't really buy that fancy i7 8-thread rig with all that horsepower just to play some silly video games did you?

some do... for there epeen.

[geo]

Friends, Romans, Countrymen, Lend me your ears, For I have come to bury PII, not to praise him

Perkam

isn't pII gonna have hexa core out this year as well?

[orangekiwii]

I want a dodecahedron core processor

[icecpu]

Why in the world keep making more core chips, we want 4 cores at higher speed, useless 6 cores
what a looser... Intel

[Movieman]

Why in the world keep making more core chips, we want 4 cores at higher speed, useless 6 cores
what a looser... Intel

no, not useless, just not good for YOUR uses..
Like i said before, you want a top gamer, get a E8500-8600 and clock the hell out of it.
There are a lot of people, myself included, who want as many cores as possible per system for work done per electrical usage.

[Shintai]

Why in the world keep making more core chips, we want 4 cores at higher speed, useless 6 cores
what a looser... Intel

Because the problem is to scale them up in speed. Thats why AMD and Intel gives us more cores. CPUs might stop around 8-16 cores on the desktop due to Amdahls law.

But with the Turbomode Intel already gave you faster cores if you dont use them all.

Example is Lynnfield where you 1-2 core applciation/game can run up to 3.6Ghz instead of 2.93Ghz.

[Pinacolada]

some of us have found the joy of crunching to help humanity, this will certainly make use of it.

I hope you are joking

Help humanity, there is so much better ways to help humanity with this money .... in fact how do you know what are you crunching, maybe calculation is secretly used to develope next generation biologic warfare like new viruses ? Crunchers are polluting earth, because they use more electricity they actually need.
I feel some folks buy this to boast their small "ego".They can't afford ferrari but at least they can afford 1000$ CPU, so much cheaper but they both fast at the same time they can claim they are doing great favour for humanity just by doing nothing - excluding wasting resources.

Anything useful discovered by crunching ? ( taken into consideration electricity and money used for that )

[CraptacularOne]

some of us have found the joy of crunching to help humanity, this will certainly make use of it. You didn't really buy that fancy i7 8-thread rig with all that horsepower just to play some silly video games did you?

So what if I did? I'm a gamer and an overclocker, it's my hobby and I enjoy it. Is it really a crime to want all the performance I paid for to be used?

some do... for there epeen.

And this rig is hardly for epeen. If that were the case I'd have Quad SLI GTX295's and an i7 965/975

[Movieman]

So what if I did? I'm a gamer and an overclocker, it's my hobby and I enjoy it. Is it really a crime to want all the performance I paid for to be used?

No, not at all, but the issue is between you and the people who write the games or in your decision to buy a 4 core when 2 core is fine and in reality perfect for gaming.
It's all "different strokes for different folks" to be honest and no one chip will be right for all of us.

[[XC] gomeler]

Why in the world keep making more core chips, we want 4 cores at higher speed, useless 6 cores
what a looser... Intel

Because Intel isn't specifically catering to you with these chips. As a general consumer LGA775 was more than sufficient and Core i5 will be overkill for you. Nehalem and it's spawn are server chips adapted to a desktop platform.

[jcool]

I hope you are joking

Help humanity, there is so much better ways to help humanity with this money .... in fact how do you know what are you crunching, maybe calculation is secretly used to develope next generation biologic warfare like new viruses ? Crunchers are polluting earth, because they use more electricity they actually need.
I feel some folks buy this to boast their small "ego".They can't afford ferrari but at least they can afford 1000$ CPU, so much cheaper but they both fast at the same time they can claim they are doing great favour for humanity just by doing nothing - excluding wasting resources.

Anything useful discovered by crunching ? ( taken into consideration electricity and money used for that )

I really wish I had some kind or even understanding words left for people like you. Unfortunately, I am all out of sympathy tonight. Stupid ing greenies.

[Hornet331]

in fact how do you know what are you crunching, maybe calculation is secretly used to develope next generation biologic warfare like new viruses ? Crunchers are polluting earth, because they use more electricity they actually need.

oh noes, every man and cat get your tinfoil hats!!!111

[haschioz]

pinacolada,
some of spend a hell of a lot money but they are very few people.
and if you run your pc anyways its like 100w more which not really much.
for what we crunch, nobody knows but i dont thing a universaty prof would develop biowarfare stuff. and if you say that you would new datacenters to do the work we do it costs more electricity and money than if we'd do it.

[CraptacularOne]

No, not at all, but the issue is between you and the people who write the games or in your decision to buy a 4 core when 2 core is fine and in reality perfect for gaming.
It's all "different strokes for different folks" to be honest and no one chip will be right for all of us.

I know most games would have been fine with a dual core. But the more people adopt the new technology, the more the developers will get the message that it's really time to start developing more games that make use of these multi threaded machines we have. If we as games only sit there and hold on to our dual core systems and never upgrade or move to more capable platforms, the developers we want to give us more advanced games will in fact have no reason to if the vast majority of the gaming population just sits there.

[Movieman]

I hope you are joking

Help humanity, there is so much better ways to help humanity with this money .... in fact how do you know what are you crunching, maybe calculation is secretly used to develope next generation biologic warfare like new viruses ? Crunchers are polluting earth, because they use more electricity they actually need.
I feel some folks buy this to boast their small "ego".They can't afford ferrari but at least they can afford 1000$ CPU, so much cheaper but they both fast at the same time they can claim they are doing great favour for humanity just by doing nothing - excluding wasting resources.

Anything useful discovered by crunching ? ( taken into consideration electricity and money used for that )

Now perhaps snipe_dog shouldn't have let his passions show on crunching in this thread but definately you shouldn't have responded in this way.
I'm going to say it short and sweet and then we'll get off this topic ok?
The people that crunch do so in the hope and yes, I use that word intentionally, that what we do today will help find cures for people in say 2-3 or 10 years.
We are building a foundation of a database that will be billions of bits of info that will need to be sorted and tested.
Years of work but if all of us take the attitude of why waste time as it isn't showing immediate resuts then 10 years from now we'll still be dealing with this crap.
On Xs are some of the most powerfull privately owned machines in the world and what better place to put those machines to work for something that can help us all and our children.
I rarely push Dc work outside of the DC sections but when someone such as yourself posts like this I feel compelled to reply.
No one is breaking your arm to crunch but please respect our choice to do so..
One last point that I've said many times:
" If not us,who? If not now when?"

[Clairvoyant129]

Why in the world keep making more core chips, we want 4 cores at higher speed, useless 6 cores
what a looser... Intel

Stick with your little dual cores and games, other people have better things to do.

[naokaji]

I hope you are joking

Help humanity, there is so much better ways to help humanity with this money .... in fact how do you know what are you crunching, maybe calculation is secretly used to develope next generation biologic warfare like new viruses ? Crunchers are polluting earth, because they use more electricity they actually need.

Anything useful discovered by crunching ? ( taken into consideration electricity and money used for that )

Ever looked at the military budget of "insert country of choice"?
They certainly don't need us to crunch for the development of biological weapons.

Doing other things for humanity with the money? do you really think it would help humanity if I would buy fancy toilet paper instead of buying the value stuff and paying for a not so small electricity bill? Or do you mean throwing the money after some charity where you have no control whatsoever how the money is used and lots of it is lost in the administration?

Anything useful come out of crunching yet? how about this instead, did any of the charities that harass you on the street in a attempt to get your money wipe out world hunger yet?

Sometimes you just have to try and crunching is a really easy way to try to kick cancer and co in their ugly behinds.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

I know most games would have been fine with a dual core. But the more people adopt the new technology, the more the developers will get the message that it's really time to start developing more games that make use of these multi threaded machines we have. If we as games only sit there and hold on to our dual core systems and never upgrade or move to more capable platforms, the developers we want to give us more advanced games will in fact have no reason to if the vast majority of the gaming population just sits there.

the problem is not developers not multi-threading games. Its that graphics hardware is so far behind CPU hardware that NO game is ever CPU limited unless you are playing at less than 1680x1050 on very powerful graphics hardware. This is true of even a dual core.

[Speederlander]

lol at this thread.