DFI UT X58-T3EH8 continued - Part 2

[Dami3n]

Im waiting for a 3845A935 w3520. Whats the best bios for xeons?

[ChrisB17]

Hey guys. How do I add QPI voltage on this board?

[ChrisB17]

I cant get this board stable with my I7 920 D0 for the life of me.

1.21 vcore (Proven stable at 1.2)
1.45 cpu vtt
1.08 nb voltage
1.65 dram voltage.

What else can I do?

[PRJ]

Could my 32M superpi instabillity problem be related to my SSD or only SP1 ( since SP2 is'nt on danish yet ) Could it be a software issue?

[Longbow]

I cant get this board stable with my I7 920 D0 for the life of me.

1.21 vcore (Proven stable at 1.2)
1.45 cpu vtt
1.08 nb voltage
1.65 dram voltage.

What else can I do?

it would help if you added more info.. im assuming 4ghz?

[Sam_oslo]

Im waiting for a 3845A935 w3520. Whats the best bios for xeons?

I'm using 5/08 offisial BIOS, and it is working fine with w3520.

Could my 32M superpi instabillity problem be related to my SSD or only SP1 ( since SP2 is'nt on danish yet ) Could it be a software issue?

I was thinking about SW/driver-problems the other day (after your system passed the memetest), because it had already passed prime95 too. I have seen many BSOD while OCing on a unstable i7-system, but not many errors. An instable i7 would BSOD on you.

If you can pass prime95 and memtest stability tests, and your daily application runs without problems, then you shouldn't care much about Superpi-errors, would i suggest.

[ci2kla]

Hey guys. How do I add QPI voltage on this board?

QPI = VTT

[PRJ]

[CPU Feature
Set VR Current Limit Max: Enabled
Thermal Management Control: Disabled
EIST Function: Enabled
CxE Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Virtualization Technology: Disabled

***** Logical Processor Setting *****
Intel HT Technology: Enabled
Active Processor Cores: All

DRAM Timing
Channel Interleave Setting: AUTO
Rank Interleave Setting: AUTO
Memory LowGap: 3072M ( Running quad SLi )

DRAM Command Rate: 1N
CAS Latency Time (tCL): 7
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 7
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 7
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 20
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): AUTO
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): AUTO
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): AUTO
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): AUTO
Row Cycle Time (tRC): AUTO
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): AUTO
Four ACT WIN Time (tFAW): AUTO
Ch1 Round trip latency: AUTO
Ch2 Round trip latency: AUTO
Ch3 Round trip latency: AUTO
tREFI: AUTO

Voltage Setting
O.C. Shut Down Free: Enable O.C.S.D.F
CPU VID Control: 1.39375V
CPU VID Special Add Limit: Enabled
CPU VID Special Add: Auto
Vcore Droop Control: Enabled
DRAM Bus Voltage: 1.665v
DRAM PWM Switch Frequency: Nominal
DRAM PWM Phase Control: 2 Phase Operation
CPU VTT Special Add: AUTO
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.39V
VTT PWM Switch Frequency: Nominal
VTT PWM Phase Control: 2 Phase Operation
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.80v
IOH/ICH 1.1V Voltage: 1.23V
IOH Analog Voltage: 1.20v
ICH 1.5 Voltage: 1.5v
ICH 1.05V Voltage: 1.05v
DIMM 1/2 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF: -00.0%
DIMM 3/4 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF: -00.0%
DIMM 5/6 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF: -00.0%
ADDR/CMD VREF Control: Disabled
x DIMM 1/2 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF: 110
x DIMM 3/4 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF: 110
x DIMM 5/6 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF: 110
CPU QPI Drive Strength: Normal
IOH QPI Drive Strength: Normal

Exit Setup Shut down: Mode 2
O.C. Fail Retry Counter: Enabled
O.C. Fail CMOS Reload: Disabled

PPM Function: Enabled
Turbo Mode Function: Enabled
1 core Max Turbo Ratio: 22x
2 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
3 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
4 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
CPU Non-Turbo Clock Ratio: 20x

* BCLK/UCLK/QPI Controller Settings *
QPI Control Settings: Enabled
QPI Link Fast Mode: Enabled
QPI Frequency: AUTO
CPU Base Clock (BCLK): 200 Mhz
Boot Up CPU Base Clock: AUTO
PCIE Clock: 100 Mhz
DRAM Frequency: 8x
UnCore Frequency: 16x

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

[eva2000]

Looking good - yes you might need more vcore in hyper pi for 8x 32m, happened on both my 2x i7 920 3851A368 D0 need 0.032v more vcore than prime95/linx stable vcore. Much different to my 2x i7 920 3836A756 C0 or W3520 3845A935 D0 cpus.

probably the ioh/ich and ioh analogue combined with higher vcore helped

[cheapseats]

200x21 HT off / 1000mhz / 7-7-6-20 / tRFC 60

+12h Prime Blend 5.4GB mem / LinX x 100 5.5GB

set vCore --------------- 1.3375V + vdroop control set 'enabled' (droops)
set vTT ----------------- 1.39V + 0.0375V spec add
set vDIMM -------------- 1.680V

DMM (idle) -------------- vCore 1.344 / vTT 1.421 / vDIMM 1.686

DMM (16K FFT load) ----- vCore 1.310 / vTT 1.435 / vDIMM 1.685
DMM (2048k FFT load) --- vCore 1.312 / vTT 1.442 / vDIMM 1.685

DMM (LinX load) --------- vCore 1.311 / vTT 1.440-4 / vDIMM 1.685

CPU Feature
Set VR Current Limit Max: Enabled
Thermal Management Control: Disabled
EIST Function: Enabled
CxE Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Virtualization Technology: Disabled

***** Logical Processor Setting *****
Intel HT Technology: Disabled
Active Processor Cores: All

DRAM Timing
Channel Interleave Setting: 6 Way
Rank Interleave Setting: 4 Way
Memory LowGap: 1536M

DRAM Command Rate: 1N 
CAS Latency Time (tCL): 7
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD)7
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 6
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 20
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): 60
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): AUTO
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): AUTO
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): AUTO
Row Cycle Time (tRC): AUTO
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): AUTO
Four ACT WIN Time (tFAW): AUTO

Voltage Setting
O.C. Shut Down Free: Enable O.C.S.D.F
CPU VID Control: 1.33750
CPU VID Special Add Limit: Enabled (Disabled = no droop)
CPU VID Special Add: Auto
Vcore Droop Control: Enabled
DRAM Bus Voltage: 1.680v
DRAM PWM Switch Frequency: Nominal
DRAM PWM Phase Control: 2 Phase Operation
CPU VTT Special Add: +0.0375
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.39v
VTT PWM Switch Frequency: Nominal
VTT PWM Phase Control: 2 Phase Operation
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.80v
IOH/ICH 1.1V Voltage: 1.11v
IOH Analog Voltage: 1.10v
ICH 1.5 Voltage: 1.5v
ICH 1.05V Voltage: 1.05v
DIMM 1/2 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF: -00.0%
DIMM 3/4 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF: -00.0%
DIMM 5/6 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF: -00.0%
ADDR/CMD VREF Control: Disabled
x DIMM 1/2 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF: 110
x DIMM 3/4 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF: 110
x DIMM 5/6 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF: 110
CPU QPI Drive Strength: Normal
IOH QPI Drive Strength: Normal

Exit Setup Shut down: Mode 2
O.C. Fail Retry Counter: Enabled
O.C. Fail CMOS Reload: Disabled

PPM Function: Enabled
Turbo Mode Function: Enabled
1 core Max Turbo Ratio: 22x
2 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
3 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
4 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
CPU Non-Turbo Clock Ratio: 20x

* BCLK/UCLK/QPI Controller Settings *
QPI Control Settings: Enabled
QPI Link Fast Mode: Enabled
QPI Frequency: 4.8GT/s
CPU Base Clock (BCLK): 200 Mhz 
Boot Up CPU Base Clock: 185 Mhz  
PCIE Clock: 100 Mhz
DRAM Frequency: 10x 
UnCore Frequency:20x

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

[eva2000]

nice work cheapseats... another tweaking master joins the thread

100 pass linx @DDR3-2000Mhz 7-7-6-x with trfc 60

[ci2kla]

Isn't that crazy that only around 70C @ 1.32v on AIR

[eva2000]

Isn't that crazy that only around 70C @ 1.32v on AIR

Not really both my i7 920 3836A756 C0 with TRUE120 4Ghz at 1.328v can do with 70-75C load temps with 26-30C ambients my i7 920 3851A368 D0 on water around 62-67C in 26C ambients

Some i7's just run cooler than others

[ci2kla]

Not really both my i7 920 3836A756 C0 with TRUE120 4Ghz at 1.328v can do with 70-75C load temps with 26-30C ambients my i7 920 3851A368 D0 on water around 62-67C in 26C ambients

Some i7's just run cooler than others

and one thing I didn't notice is HT is disabled!
man I gotta get rid of my red hot 3847A951 and go for W3520...
80C on water for just 1.28v is damn crazy and absolutely unacceptable...

[Lu523]

I have one of these mobos. I have not tweaked the bios yet. Running it at 175x91 with a 920 C0 chip. I need to speed it up or see about dropping the voltage on the cpu.

[Praz]

PRJ

Nice to see you able to get HyperPi to run. It's normally my first sop for stability testing once in Windows on the i7. It's quick and gets you at least 80% towards full stability.

[PRJ]

@ eva2000

Well, thanks for your tips on where to go

Now I can start optimizing, now that i finally have a stable setup

Would you be satisfied with these Voltages for 24/7 use?


@ Cheapseats

Set VR Current Limit Max: Enabled Does this not need to be disabled when OC..?

[eva2000]

yes very good for 24/7 - i use 19x211bclk 844mhz 6-7-6-x 24/7 hehe

Set VR Current limit max = enabled for best clocks - tip #4 http://i4memory.com/102537-post3.html to disable TDC/TDP protection

[p2501]

PRJ, what kind of block are you using on your 'Northbridge'? Looks clean!

[ACE76]

I finally got to building the w3520 system yesterday but couldn't even get win7 to install....it kept on freezing during the percentage part...sometimes it would make it to 30% and othertimes not even 1 percent....I had everything in the BIOS set to defaults and made no changes...I put my Areca 1231ML on the 2nd PCI-E 16x slot (where your 2nd SLI or crossfire videocard would normally go) and my PCI-E X-Fi on the x16 yellow slot which is supposed to run at 8x....I didn't update the BIOS yet and am thinking that is the problem, but could anyone help me figure this out?

Almost forgot - I'm running a single 4870x2 videocard.

[PRJ]

PRJ, what kind of block are you using on your 'Northbridge'? Looks clean!

It's a MIPS, but dont buy the mosfets cooler, a mis-installation just costed me a new motherboard.

[ChrisB17]

it would help if you added more info.. im assuming 4ghz?

Yes 4.0ghz.

[p2501]

It's a MIPS, but dont buy the mosfets cooler, a mis-installation just costed me a new motherboard.

Ooooh, shiny!

But no I wouldn't buy a Mosfet block, I particularly like the fact that one can cleanly cool the whole board with just that one block. Low pressure drop and temps are also fine, plus it looks clean!

Edit: It would be also interesting to know what mounting kit exactly it was that you used. The one supplied with the blocks or self-brewed?

[jcool]

Hey guys,

seems I "fixed" my issue from earlier. After days of testing I finally decided that the mobo doesn't like the ram I was using (2 kits of Gskill F3-12800CL8T-6GBPI)
The DFI seems really picky about ICs, so just a heads-up for anyone looking to buy that ram for the DFI.. don't. It really only likes HCF0 and MNH-E.

[eva2000]

Hey guys,

seems I "fixed" my issue from earlier. After days of testing I finally decided that the mobo doesn't like the ram I was using (2 kits of Gskill F3-12800CL8T-6GBPI)
The DFI seems really picky about ICs, so just a heads-up for anyone looking to buy that ram for the DFI.. don't. It really only likes HCF0 and MNH-E.

memory tips http://i4memory.com/102537-post3.html - different ic types have varying cpu vtt to vdimm optimal differential voltages as well as dram / pwm switch values. Just a matter of finding which values are for which memory ics and cpus. Micron ics like decrease 15% while samsung hcf0 and elpida like nominal or increase 15%. Of course my experiences might not translate the same for you.