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    ok, I was playing around some more.

    On Asus P6T deluxe (V1) and Bios 1504. When the cpu hit 80C, both Calculated and MSR multiplier would drop back down to 20x. when dropped back under 80C, it would go back up 21x.

    this though looks more like thermal throttling kicking in.

    I tried to get a screenshot, But it kept switching too fast on me

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    For me and another W3520 cpu use, C1E fixed the 12x multi turbo mode issue. For me upto around VID Special add percentage of 114.17% after than 12x comes back. But another W3520 user doesn't have problems with >114% VID add on VID Auto main vcore. The issue varies from individual cpu to another which is weird.

    Win7 Ultimate 64bit RC Power management

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    oke will do with log file this time since will help you improve this tool.

    1 question tough.
    1.20 vcore
    3482 mhz oc with 21x multi 166 bclk
    full load temp linpack 60c prime95 55 60c.
    so it wont throtle thru heat.

    everest showing max 57 60w output cpu i dunno if this the tdp or real tdp or whatever.
    would be any other way seeing if hit tdp limit or not.
    or any other limits.

    edit: log
    dunno if acurate but i did see my usage drop the same momment calculated multi dropped.

    Code:
    05/31/09 18:21:22 21.000 21.000 98.89
    05/31/09 18:21:23 21.000 21.000 98.77
    05/31/09 18:21:24 21.000 21.000 98.61
    05/31/09 18:21:25 21.000 21.000 99.05
    05/31/09 18:21:26 21.000 21.000 98.84
    05/31/09 18:21:27 21.000 21.000 98.78
    05/31/09 18:21:28 21.000 21.000 98.79
    05/31/09 18:21:29 21.000 21.000 98.89
    05/31/09 18:21:30 21.000 21.000 98.81
    05/31/09 18:21:31 21.000 21.000 98.75
    05/31/09 18:21:32 21.000 21.000 99.02
    05/31/09 18:21:33 21.000 21.000 98.73
    05/31/09 18:21:34 19.573 21.000 98.69
    05/31/09 18:21:35 21.000 21.000 98.71
    05/31/09 18:21:36 21.000 21.000 99.04
    05/31/09 18:21:38 21.000 21.000 98.83
    05/31/09 18:21:39 21.000 21.000 98.27
    05/31/09 18:21:40 21.000 21.000 88.24
    05/31/09 18:21:41 21.000 21.000 94.29
    05/31/09 18:21:42 21.000 21.000 97.66
    05/31/09 18:21:43 19.605 21.000 97.94
    05/31/09 18:21:44 21.000 21.000 98.95
    05/31/09 18:21:45 21.000 21.000 98.59
    05/31/09 18:21:46 21.000 21.000 98.77
    05/31/09 18:21:47 21.000 21.000 98.79
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    05/31/09 18:21:49 19.651 21.000 98.77
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    05/31/09 18:21:51 21.000 21.000 99.05
    05/31/09 18:21:52 19.849 21.000 98.80
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    05/31/09 18:21:54 21.000 21.000 98.57
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    05/31/09 18:21:58 21.000 21.000 99.01
    05/31/09 18:21:59 21.000 21.000 98.65
    05/31/09 18:22:00 19.529 21.000 99.14
    05/31/09 18:22:01 18.720 21.000 98.89
    05/31/09 18:22:02 21.000 21.000 98.77
    05/31/09 18:22:03 21.000 21.000 98.99
    05/31/09 18:22:04 21.000 21.000 98.61
    05/31/09 18:22:05 21.000 21.000 98.78
    05/31/09 18:22:06 21.000 21.000 98.86
    05/31/09 18:22:07 21.000 21.000 98.93
    05/31/09 18:22:08 21.000 21.000 99.12
    05/31/09 18:22:09 21.000 21.000 98.57
    05/31/09 18:22:10 21.000 21.000 98.79
    05/31/09 18:22:11 21.000 21.000 95.17
    05/31/09 18:22:12 21.000 21.000 98.05
    05/31/09 18:22:13 21.000 21.000 98.18
    05/31/09 18:22:14 21.000 21.000 98.67
    05/31/09 18:22:15 19.852 21.000 99.34
    05/31/09 18:22:16 21.000 21.000 98.53
    05/31/09 18:22:17 21.000 21.000 98.53
    05/31/09 18:22:18 21.000 21.000 95.09
    05/31/09 18:22:19 21.000 21.000 98.58
    05/31/09 18:22:20 21.000 21.000 98.78
    05/31/09 18:22:21 21.000 21.000 97.77
    05/31/09 18:22:22 21.000 21.000 98.44
    05/31/09 18:22:23 21.000 21.000 98.08
    05/31/09 18:22:24 21.000 21.000 98.28
    05/31/09 18:22:25 21.000 21.000 98.54
    05/31/09 18:22:26 21.000 21.000 97.82
    05/31/09 18:22:27 21.000 21.000 97.94
    05/31/09 18:22:28 21.000 21.000 98.46
    Last edited by zer0kewl; 06-01-2009 at 02:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nutcase View Post
    ok, I was playing around some more.

    On Asus P6T deluxe (V1) and Bios 1504. When the cpu hit 80C, both Calculated and MSR multiplier would drop back down to 20x. when dropped back under 80C, it would go back up 21x.

    this though looks more like thermal throttling kicking in.
    Edit: Here's what the Intel Turbo White Paper says.

    1.2 Dependencies / Algorithm
    Intel® Turbo Boost technology core frequency upside availability is ultimately constrained by power delivery limits, but within those constraints, it is limited by the following factors:

    • The estimated current consumption of the processor
    • The estimated power consumption of the processor
    The temperature of the processor
    ------------------------------------------------------

    Typical thermal throttling doesn't happen until the CPU hits about 97C. In your case, when the CPU hits 80C it is definitely Turbo throttling. This isn't as severe as thermal throttling as it only dumps your Turbo boost. As soon as the temps are back under the trigger point, Turbo boost automatically resumes.

    When thermal throttling happens at 97C, it will rapidly cycle your multiplier between 20 and down to 12. You'll definitely notice that when using your computer.

    zer0kewl: Are you running any other monitoring software while testing? I know HWMonitor can interfere with the Calculated Multiplier. There might be other monitoring programs as well that can cause troubles. Your results are not typical when running a constant load in the high 90% range. When rge and I were testing using Prime 95 Small FFTs, we both went over 4 hours each without a single dropout in the Calculated Multiplier.
    At the moment, what might be causing this problem for you. Are you using Prime for that log file?

    Thanks eva2000 for posting that. I haven't had a chance to install Win 7 RC1 yet so I just wanted to make sure that the Minimum processor state option is still available.
    Last edited by unclewebb; 05-31-2009 at 08:48 AM.

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    cpu-z realtemp core temp asus probe.
    rivatuner.

    if turbo throtles i should basicly see my multi drop in cpu-z to i gess wich does't happen.
    yeah i did use small fft.
    the logfile comes from your own tool.

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    thanks for the Info.

    Now I am starting to understand what it is.

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    zer0kewl: When testing, how about turn off CPU-Z, Core Temp, RealTemp and Asus Probe. Run Prime95 Small FFTs again to see if that gets rid of the drop outs. At the moment this tool is not giving you good results. You need to make sure that some other program is not interfering with the system timers. Unfortunately the timers that are used are not protected.

    Severe Turbo throttling will show up in CPU-Z but for brief moments of Turbo throttling, CPU-Z might miss it.

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    i7 Turbo 5.2

    http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/3/3/1794507/Turbo.zip

    -Fixed incorrect multiplier result when only 1 core was active. Was showing +1 when it should have been showing a +2 Turbo boost. Thanks rge for finding and testing that out.

    -added an INI file to remember the previous Load Filter used.

    -added the CPU name string so when I see results posted, I'll know what CPU you're using.

    -added the ability to toggle C1E but only for Core 2 users so far.

    -added an INI option called Delay=0 which controls how long of a delay in milliseconds there is before the multiplier is read from the MSR. The range is 0 to 10 ms.

    When reading the multiplier from a CPU, the act of reading this information momentarily loads the CPU which can increase the value of the multiplier returned. Most software that reports the multiplier will use a tiny delay just before reading the multiplier to give the CPU a chance to settle down.

    Delay=0 will result in a more responsive and accurate MSR Multiplier while Delay=1 will give the CPU a millisecond to settle down and at idle will result in an MSR Multiplier that doesn't float around as much. Default is Delay=1.

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    seems oke now with all monitoring software turned off.
    and new turbo prog.

    log about 15 mins.
    i pm you the whole log since think might be to long to post.
    edit: its with default load filter set to 95%
    Code:
      DATE     TIME    MULTI   MSR  LOAD%  NOTES
    05/31/09 19:43:27 21.000 21.000 96.48
    05/31/09 19:43:28 21.000 21.000 97.34
    05/31/09 19:43:29 21.000 21.000 99.17
    05/31/09 19:43:30 21.000 21.000 99.22
    05/31/09 19:43:31 21.000 21.000 99.20
    05/31/09 19:43:32 21.000 21.000 99.18
    05/31/09 19:43:33 21.000 21.000 98.03
    05/31/09 19:43:34 21.000 21.000 98.97
    05/31/09 19:43:35 21.000 21.000 98.41
    05/31/09 19:43:36 21.000 21.000 99.14
    05/31/09 19:43:37 21.000 21.000 99.18
    05/31/09 19:43:38 21.000 21.000 98.83
    05/31/09 19:43:39 21.000 21.000 99.11
    05/31/09 19:43:40 21.000 21.000 99.22
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    When posting a big log file you can always use the code HTML tags before and after the data like this

    [code ]

    *** put the log file results in here ***

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    Leave out the last space after the word code.

    Your results look much better. i7 Turbo is a decent tool but too many other monitoring programs can cause a problem for it. Hopefully you can find which one is causing the problem on your computer.

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    well its certain no throtling happening posibly rivatuner coretemp or realtemp causing or either combination off to much monitoring software running.
    especialy since minimum off 17x ? wich is't even a turbo multiplier.

    edit: i just saw my gfx thru rivatuner pcb temp go -60c for a sec posibly could be rivatuner.

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    i7 Turbo 5.4

    http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/3/3/1794507/Turbo.zip

    Just a couple of minor updates. I added the ability to toggle C1E for Core i7 CPUs. I also changed the EIST status flag so it is updated in real time and not just when you first start the program.

    Many thanks to Felix for working hard by trial and error to discover this information and being a good guy and sharing it with me.
    Intel thinks stuff like this doesn't belong in their documentation.

    Here's where you can read about Felix's latest version of his program CPU Tweaker for Core i7:

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1220

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    i7 Turbo 5.6

    http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/3/3/1794507/Turbo.zip

    At full load, your calculated multiplier should be nice and steady at 26.000.
    It looks good to me.

    Edit: The ability to toggle EIST does not seem to result in any change so this option has been removed.

    Added a fix for CPUs with unlocked multipliers like the 965/975.
    Thanks NaeKuh for helping out.
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    Ran i7 Turbo 5.4 on my DFI last night and found that it is throttling - from 12x it goes straight to 21x on starting Linx but very quickly drops to 20x and stays there ..... max temp was 68c

    Does this mean that there is a setting in the BIOS that I need to change (disable) to stop it from throttling ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ_64 View Post
    Ran i7 Turbo 5.4 on my DFI last night and found that it is throttling - from 12x it goes straight to 21x on starting Linx but very quickly drops to 20x and stays there ..... max temp was 68c

    Does this mean that there is a setting in the BIOS that I need to change (disable) to stop it from throttling ?
    If it is dropping to 20 instead of 12 there is nothing you can do at the present time. DFI is investigating. Could be worse. Above 190 BCLK my board drops to x12 even with Turbo off in Win7.

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    Cheers, Praz - will look out for an update on DFI club .......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ_64 View Post
    Cheers, Praz - will look out for an update on DFI club .......
    You do have the following two entries set as shown, correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ_64 View Post
    it goes straight to 21x on starting Linx but very quickly drops to 20x and stays there ..... max temp was 68c

    Does this mean that there is a setting in the BIOS that I need to change (disable) to stop it from throttling ?
    Yes, the DFI boards should have a BIOS option for this. I think it's called CPU VR limit or something like that.
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    Thanks - I will check those settings tonight .............
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    Praz: I wrote a small tool to try to help out with the DFI 12 multi issue. It's called MultiBoost.

    http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/3/...MultiBoost.zip

    I was just looking for some feedback. When your CPU is stuck at 12, does MultiBoost do anything to your multiplier when you are running Prime? Try it with EIST enabled or disabled in the bios. You could also try toggling C1E with i7 Turbo while MultiBoost is running.

    Any feedback I get might help me find a fix for this problem if it's possible.

    Edit: One user had some success.
    http://i4memory.com/115485-post45.html
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    25? 30?
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    Been able to reproduce the 12x turbo multi issue in winxp now it happens when you disable all but 1 core and try to use 22x multi above 210bclk.

    22x 209bclk okay under load all the way up to 209bclk.



    22x 210bclk started at 12x multi then used cputweaker v1.2 beta 8 to set and apply 21x multi which fixed it at 22x with occasional drops from 22x in cpuz. Cpu tweaker and coretemp don't read 22x multi at all but realtemp and cpuz do.

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    i7 Turbo 5.9

    http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/3/3/1794507/Turbo.zip

    -Fixed a bug that was causing a problem for 965 and 975 owners.

    -Added a standard deviation calculation box to the Calculated Multiplier as well as logging of this data. This should be near zero, especially at full load.

    -Added a separate utility called MultiBoost which helps some Core i7 owners running Windows 7 to keep their multiplier at its maximum instead of only 12.

    I'm hoping this new stat will help you spot when another monitoring program is not compatible with the Calculated Multiplier in i7 Turbo or RealTemp. Start up HWMonitor at idle while i7 Turbo is running and you should see what I mean.

    Thanks once again rge for your infinite testing.

    Another use for standard deviation data is to spot when there is serious trouble with your CPU and or power settings.

    In the first pic, my Q6600 has EIST enabled and has settled down to a multiplier of 6.0 which is what it should do at idle. The standard deviation shows 0.000 which is a good sign that there are no problems. CPU-Z can be set to look at both Dual Cores within a Quad and both are reporting the same thing.




    In the second screen shot, the standard deviation is reporting 1.500 at idle which is a big warning sign that there is a serious problem here. If you only looked at Core #0 of CPU-Z, it's still happily reporting 6.0 so you would probably think that i7 Turbo is out to lunch. Have a look at what CPU-Z shows for Core #2. Sure enough, there is a problem here. That side of the Quad is running at 3000 MHz while the other half of the Quad is only running at 2000 MHz.



    The average calculated multiplier is 7.500 since half the CPU is at 6.000 and the other half is running at 9.000.
    Even the MSR multiplier is reporting the correct 7.500 which best describes what the average multiplier really is.

    I kind of like this new tool.
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    One program that does not play nicely is HW Monitor, ? hogging the timers. My multi is on 21 with turbo/eist/c1e all disabled, so multi should stay near 21, not wandering more than ~.2 from it.

    First pic is just turbo running for an hour, and it works perfectly. I kept log for the hour, the largest Standard deviation was .14, average was .06. I turned load filter percent to zero so would catch the full range of calculated multi, showing it staying 21 within 0.13.



    Now watch what happens as soon as you start HW monitor, the SD goes up to 36, 20, etc. The multi says 23, only because turbo is filtering what HW monitor is really doing to the multi, limiting the error to max multi of my cpu (23), otherwise multi would be reading 80, etc, hence the crazy SD. Soon as you turn HW monitor off, turbo works perfectly again. Maybe HW monitor was absent during playschool when sharing was taught.

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