Phenomenal II

[over@locker886]

Amazing scores, event! Congrats!

I hope at once I can bench with LHe, it seems very fun..

[dinos22]

It was cool Sampsa. Fist time I saw the pot go below -200c, it was simply amazing. The way the helium roars up and expands into a gas so rapidly is really insane. This experience has ruined me because now LN2 benching is weak compared to that .
I talked to Sami on the phone right when I hit that 06 score, was pretty cool. I also got to watch your guys vegas video about ten million times on loop hehe

[Monstru]

First of all, "boo, you used ES CPU"

Extraordinary runs!!! The fabrication process for these CPU's is something truly phenomenal. Working at such low temps, with the behaviour you described is a dream for every overclocker, and this should be an example for others to follow. I get it that we will soon see k|ngp|n F1 LHe edition?

[Smartidiot89]

First of all, "boo, you used ES CPU"

Extraordinary runs!!! The fabrication process for these CPU's is something truly phenomenal. Working at such low temps, with the behaviour you described is a dream for every overclocker, and this should be an example for others to follow. I get it that we will soon see k|ngp|n F1 LHe edition?

LHe is nothing most overclockers can afford Expensive like hell.

[k|ngp|n]

Will you post your results on hwbot?

I didn't asnwer this right away because i didn't want the thread to turn into a debate about ES results. Let me speak my mind on the subject quickly here to show where I am at, and then thats it I dont want the thread derailed with discussion about hwbot.
My answer is NOT A CHANCE. Hwbot needs to adjust to the changing scene of overclocking and have a right place for results like these first. I get called arrogant or some stupid like that and take alot of flak if I suggest to remove myself from hwbot competition to make up for stuff like this...its ridiculous. I think some people are s no matter what you do
You can bet I am going back to AMD for sure to bury a few benchmarks just because it can be done and no other reason. The tech is there. It doesnt mean jack in the realm of hwbot or comparing myself to other overclockers. I dont even want to submit to FM until after this overclocking competition on FM is done, because I don't want to take away a prize from anyone, but the final results will get posted to the orb. AMD deserves it as they have done something amazing here. Besides there are already alot of ES's on ORB.
The solution for hwbot IMO needs to be some sort of a seperate uber league or something where everything goes period and IT IS KNOW AS SUCH OPENLY. Look at my screenshots, it looks like a retail cpu but it's not quite A manuf. can seed someone with an ES that looks retail so easily. AMD was completely open about the fact that these are ES samples to the press and I thought that was cool, not trying to hide anything only showing what their tech can do. They are pushing the boundaries of extreme cooling farther than anyone right now, thats a fact. Maybe their needs to be a whole new F1 style manuf backed overclocking league or something. I am going to push for it..
If team brawn has a much better product to put on the track then bmw, mclaren, or ferrari does that mean they are not allowed to compete?? Those other guys wish!

Ok enough of that check out my new phenom pot. This thing is for 15000rpm phenom benching on LN2 and DI . I tried to make the best pot I possible could for everything that this type of benching requires, I'm pretty happy with it at this point and it might be ready soon..

[dpa]

I love the benching Vince, really cool to see AMD back at it again.. PII scale like hell on cold it seems

shift, that pot was HUGE?!

[Achill3uS]

very well done with the LHe results so far and pretty much amazing new pot Vince, basically an extended, taller full cu F1EE? cant wait to see in more action hope there will be some vids out from the event soon...

[chew*]

Great Post.

I can attest to the fact that KP's pot is Like the super duper cherry ES of ES's ln2 pot for Phenom II benching, I was very pleased with it and I think for the first time ever i saw an ln2 pot hit -200.........

I will however wait to post something in his products page in the very near future.

Once again thx vince and it was an honor to say the least to give the prototype a spin under pressure in front of a crowd.

[eligray]

Sorry to be kinf of a ****, but colder than -196 of a reading on LN2 is just sensor inaccuracy. Not to say that its not the best pot in the world though. KP, I know you obviously don't want to give away your secrets of the F1 PII Edition, but can you tell us how it's different from the other highly-classified F1 model for intels? (more mass? more surface area?) Feel free to totally ignore me if it's too much info

[k|ngp|n]

ahh you beat me to it.. My pot defies nature and the limits of liquid nitrogen itself!!

It has A LOT more surface area where it needs to be, more internal volume, more overall mass (again where it needs to be). F1 is a great pot with phenom as well especially with extension, but this pot pulls colder base temps and only loses around .25 of a degree under load at 6400mhz on LN2 with phenom2 1.8-1.9v.
This pot also integrates the top of the pot with old mounting bracket style pots to maximixe surface area and mass.
I can say that because I have tested and designed it as such. Not just biting off of what someone else has done and calling it my own

[youngpro]

great results vince, looking forward to seeing what happens with the unfinished business... something about an all AMD platform just feels so right

[dinos22]

wise words from Vince

Maybe their needs to be a whole new F1 style manuf backed overclocking league or something. I am going to push for it..
If team brawn has a much better product to put on the track then bmw, mclaren, or ferrari does that mean they are not allowed to compete?? Those other guys wish!

hahah Nick from The Overclocker will have some serious discussions at Computex with all manufacturers about this EXACT idea. We've been talking about this for the last year pretty much and it will now start getting actioned

i will let Nick know that you are keen and if you are OK with that throw your name in there as well as someone willing and open to that style of comp

[chew*]

Yep I know the limits of temps for ln2 but if all other pots did not cause that temp to show I think you get the idea or at least that was my intentions...regardless this is the pot that rocks..

[3oh6]

Not just biting off of what someone else has done and calling it my own

yeah, i caught that...certainly deserved and made my day, thanks Vince

as for the benching, what the hell else is there to say? you ran that AMD shyt down and beat it with a baseball bat Detroit styles...end of story

[perkam]

Is LHe cheaper than LN2? Because I'm under the impression its LN2 > LHe.

Perkam

[chew*]

Is LHe cheaper than LN2? Because I'm under the impression its LN2 > LHe.

Perkam

Ln2 $2.00 liter

Lhe $5.00 liter and less efficient

I also wanted to add because I think vince forgot this part......In my experience with his pot it burned less ln2 than any pot I have used to date ( I have used f1 EE as well )......its efficiency is incredible.....

Filling pot once and then making a coffee 100Ft away while running 32m or running 06 is priceless......

[G0ldBr1ck]

What is the rate of LHe usage with the new backpressure device?

[dinos22]

Ln2 $2.00 liter

Lhe $5.00 liter and less efficient

I also wanted to add because I think vince forgot this part......In my experience with his pot it burned less ln2 than any pot I have used to date ( I have used f1 EE as well )......its efficiency is incredible.....

Filling pot once and then making a coffee 100Ft away while running 32m or running 06 is priceless......

[chew*]

Ehhh thats not gonna happen on F1 EE benching 06 around 6.1g 1.85v dino We literallly had to stay on top of the f1 EE at all times when squeezing that last mhz out......This thing is another animal.....F1EE design was to maintain a specific temp and to avoid the coldbug......this thing is designed to hold max cold at max load.....

I think on one of my leakier chips we saw 10-15C temp swings in cpu test benching 06 with the F1EE.

[dinos22]

Ehhh thats not gonna happen on F1 EE benching 06 around 6.1g 1.85v dino We literallly had to stay on top of the f1 EE at all times when squeezing that last mhz out......

really?
we didnt
you REALLY should buy an Intel setup to see what i'm talkin about

i think i was planning my next vacation online with these Phenoms on LN2 with F1EE compared to Intel chips

[chew*]

really?
we didnt
you REALLY should buy an Intel setup to see what i'm talkin about

i think i was planning my next vacation online with these Phenoms on LN2 with F1EE compared to Intel chips

LOL I have one...no thanks 70C loaded with a true 120 I'll pass ln2 gets expensive...

[nguoisaigon]

simply amazing. This is what extreme overclocking is

[VoodooProphetII]

Great post Vince. I enjoyed that part where AMD told the media that it is actually an ES sample. But yes, even though it might be an ES sample, it is still incredible and and exciting to know that AMD is back, and what's to come.

[Lightman]

I'm with you Vince on splitting this mess into 'F1' like category and the rest. It will be interesting to see what the individual manufacturing process can do and if eventually 'Joe more than average' can beat that with retail part.

All should bear in mind that no manufacturer is setting up production line for handful of ES to break records - it's simply too expensive. ES are either the initial batch or simply parts sorted out because of very good/bad characteristics.

[Monstru]

That pot is pure evil!