OCZ 8500 Low-Voltage Blade

[Don_Dan]

Which is good.

I cannot say for AMD, but for Intel, CAS 4 doesn't mean jack .

Faster CAS 5 or 6 will outperform CAS 4 anyway.

I mainly care about max CAS 5 & possibly 6 if it's enough of an increase over CAS 5.

Don't care about CAS 4 at all TBH.

I always thought you liked a more thorough and scientific approach to memory overclocking. I included CL4 because it is still what many people run and can compare to these sticks. Everyone can raise the voltage and setFSB them up for a quick validation.... Maybe I will do that later on too, but since this kit is so new I intended to generate a base line of results for everyone clocking this kit.

If you want to see CL5 so badly, I'll skip CL4-5-5-15 now and test CL5-5-5-18....

Where the hell did you get ocz blades with black pcb? It shuod be green, at least that is what the OCZ shows.

My Blade's PCB is black too, I wrote that in my first post!

Yeah! Probably those are the one's for testing and reviews....not for retail...

This is not a review-sample, it's a retail kit!

first batch to germany was black pcb
lets pray green pcb batch is good

I think all of them have black PCBs.

I'm not German but i got 'm from Alternate.nl, they have a store in Germany too, maybe that's why?

I'm not complaining though as i like black a lot better.

I bought my kit from alternate too, as they were the first to get shipment of these kits. Their headquarter is just 5 minutes from where I work!



Added CL4-4-4-12 results and first CL5, not final result for 1.80V!

[SpuTnicK]

Guys, what about radiator size, hight and fattness?

[Smartidiot89]

Tony can you please spill the beans on the pricings for the 1150/1200mhz kits?

[nightic]

Guys, what about radiator size, hight and fattness?

Heatspreader extends approximately 16mm above the PCB itself and is around 9mm in thickness.

Tony can you please spill the beans on the pricings for the 1150/1200mhz kits?

OcUK have the 1150MHz (PC2-9200) available to pre-order (ETA next week) for just GBP£7 (~USD$11) more than the PC2-8500 kit.

[Smartidiot89]

OcUK have the 1150MHz (PC2-9200) available to pre-order (ETA next week) for just GBP£7 (~USD$11) more than the PC2-8500 kit.

Awesome that was the place I was planning to order from

[Mescalamba]

Wow CL4 1000MHz .. only Microns could do this before. Really nice new chips.. (grats Samsung

[Eagle_Watch]

I haven't really posted much that could defeat the G.Skill 1100 anyway, can they do 533MHz CL5 @ 1.65V though?

550mhz 5-5-5-15 @ 1,8v (thats stock configuration of the gskill)

Looking forward to see all your results in CL5

[Xtreme Addict]

Black PCB is available in Germany (and Europe) because of european demand of Black PCB

[LiquidReactor]

Thank you.

I haven't been on icq for at least 4 years i guess but i do use msn often, please pm me so we can have a chat.

I have tested at what voltages i could get DDR1000 4-4-4-12 and DDR1200 5-5-5-18 stable so far, here's what i got:

Thanks for the update. Looking good

[BeepBeep2]

Black PCB is available in Germany (and Europe) because of european demand of Black PCB

Newegg.com photo's show black PCB's. Don't know about the actual ones being sold though.

Also, aren't the platinum heatspreader's holes kind of revealing to the IC's?

[xzulu]

Black PCB is available in Germany (and Europe) because of european demand of Black PCB

Oh, so that's why their black.

@Zeus

Could you post the results of the kit doing DDR1200 5-5-5-18? Looks like I want one too! LOL!

[18 is # 1]

Also, aren't the platinum heatspreader's holes kind of revealing to the IC's?

The holes don't show the ICs.

[Zeus]

Oh, so that's why their black.

@Zeus

Could you post the results of the kit doing DDR1200 5-5-5-18? Looks like I want one too! LOL!

I did mate, check post #70 in this thread.

[xzulu]

I did mate, check post #70 in this thread.

Oh yeah! Thanks

[-n7-]

I always thought you liked a more thorough and scientific approach to memory overclocking. I included CL4 because it is still what many people run and can compare to these sticks. Everyone can raise the voltage and setFSB them up for a quick validation.... Maybe I will do that later on too, but since this kit is so new I intended to generate a base line of results for everyone clocking this kit.

If you want to see CL5 so badly, I'll skip CL4-5-5-15 now and test CL5-5-5-18....

No offense was meant by my post.
I very much appreciate a detailed review of things
We don't get enough people willing to spend that time, so it's a good thing you are taking the time.

My post wasn't directed at you though...

I've already done the "scientifics" for Intel chipsets for years now.
The best performance always comes from higher speeds vs. tighter timings, so for myself & who i was replying to (18 is # 1), that's mainly what i look for.

Keep the good stuff coming.

[Serra]

me telling you what manufacturer part for these modules just gives any OCZ competitor an easy time...so i will not be telling you.

We have started marking blank IC's OCZ because of this...you guys are your own worst enemy.

Its not Micron and i won't comment any further on what they are...someone decides to rip off a spreader thats upto them, if it rips off the IC's also.. tough ..don't come for an RMA.

Tony, I am disappointed with you. I know I have had occasion to blast you before, but it has always been over things that I felt were things not in OCZ's best interests (ie. HydroZ, Cryo-z teasing), because I otherwise support OCZ so much. So please, take a second and read my response as someone who is generally willing to shill out an extra $10 for OCZ (and who suggests others do too). [okay, the stuff in my sig isn't OCZ, but my extenuating circumstances for that is that I had to buy it in 1 day from someone who didn't carry your brand].

So here are my thoughts about what you just said. I think it's a terrible position to take. The DIY community - who you absolutely depend on - is a very open one, closing off a flow of information to it will not be to your benefit. For example, people suggest your RAM series' because they know there's *generally* quality chips in them... but if we don't know what those chips are, the ONLY way we can buy any given sub-set within any given series is to go out of our way to find a quality benchmark on them, and that's not always convenient or possible. From there, you will be the only manufacturer I can think of that blocks this info... is that really how you want to be seen?

My final comment before going on to you next quote is this: half the time I buy memory, I do so because I am looking for specific compatibility. That is to say, I need to ensure that such-and-such chips have been tested as working, because I don't like buying twice. When I can find out what chips you run or zoom in to see what I need, I'm happy. When I can't, I have to go to vendors who offer that, and I'm not alone. I'm probably not in the majority on that one, but again... I'm not alone.

I have seen this so many times its untrue, we spill the beans on the IC's and you all go off looking for generic modules with the same IC's that clock well...I know you guys like cheap but we need payback for finding the IC's, binning them, branding them and offering awesome support on them.

I have to be paid a salary, i don't do this for free, and the sales of modules and SSD's are what I live off, hence I will NOT tell you, just go buy and enjoy the modules...if you need support come over to the OCZforum and we will look after you.

Its not just the modules you are buying into...its a whole lot more than that.

THAT is exactly why not telling people what IC's they're using is wrong. If, as you say, it is NOT JUST THE MODULES people are buying, but the superb support... then why are you hiding the modules? Would not your great support be the factor that makes people come to you, even knowing what the IC's are? Or is your resolve to have support so good that it is a draw in and of itself waning at OCZ? It used to be a core fundamental... but now you are stopping the sale of products based on that fundamental - and we all know what happens to companies who forget the fundamentals.

Don't let the economic slowdown ruin your company Tony. It's a slippery slope blaming a slowdown of IC sales on enthusiasts who can choose competitors when they know your IC types, rather than just admitting that sales will be down and that it is your job to improve your marketing, support, and brand awareness.

[SpuTnicK]

Here are the prices i found on the net:

9200 blade:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/NEW-OCZ-PC2-9200-...520162001r8004
http://pccyber.com/?v=product&i=RAM-OCZ2B1150LV4GK

9600 blades:
http://pccyber.com/?v=product&i=RAM-OCZ2B1200LV4GK

8500 blades:
https://www.providentpc.com/ramocz-p...gk-p-2834.html
http://www.freestyle-it.nl/winkel/in...ducts_id=23119
http://www.azerty.nl/8-745-216486/oc...?wis_bekeken=1
http://www.pccomponentes.com/OCZ_BLA..._5_5_5_18.html
http://cgi.ebay.it/RAM-OCZ-DDR2-4GB-...509126001r5087
and the list goes on...

[SpuTnicK]

Btw, Atca168, ebay member, has ALL the blade and platinum models of OCZ low voltage ram FOR SALE.

[zsamz_]

99can$ for pc2-9200
to be honest i dont care if it takes 2.5v as long as they perform
hope ocz is not binning em like gskills is doin now

[CobraXP]

I have a set of PC2-8500 ordered. Hope to test it soon but from the sounds of it, sounds like a winner. Thx for the testing guys.

[18 is # 1]

Has anyone seen testing with Intel?

[YMAA]

Any 8GB testing being done? I'd probably spring for two kits if they could do 1200MHz with 4 DIMMs on P45.

[Nomadsoul]

I'd probably order these, awesome overclocking potential

[Tony]

Tony, I am disappointed with you. I know I have had occasion to blast you before, but it has always been over things that I felt were things not in OCZ's best interests (ie. HydroZ, Cryo-z teasing), because I otherwise support OCZ so much. So please, take a second and read my response as someone who is generally willing to shill out an extra $10 for OCZ (and who suggests others do too). [okay, the stuff in my sig isn't OCZ, but my extenuating circumstances for that is that I had to buy it in 1 day from someone who didn't carry your brand].

So here are my thoughts about what you just said. I think it's a terrible position to take. The DIY community - who you absolutely depend on - is a very open one, closing off a flow of information to it will not be to your benefit. For example, people suggest your RAM series' because they know there's *generally* quality chips in them... but if we don't know what those chips are, the ONLY way we can buy any given sub-set within any given series is to go out of our way to find a quality benchmark on them, and that's not always convenient or possible. From there, you will be the only manufacturer I can think of that blocks this info... is that really how you want to be seen?

My final comment before going on to you next quote is this: half the time I buy memory, I do so because I am looking for specific compatibility. That is to say, I need to ensure that such-and-such chips have been tested as working, because I don't like buying twice. When I can find out what chips you run or zoom in to see what I need, I'm happy. When I can't, I have to go to vendors who offer that, and I'm not alone. I'm probably not in the majority on that one, but again... I'm not alone.





THAT is exactly why not telling people what IC's they're using is wrong. If, as you say, it is NOT JUST THE MODULES people are buying, but the superb support... then why are you hiding the modules? Would not your great support be the factor that makes people come to you, even knowing what the IC's are? Or is your resolve to have support so good that it is a draw in and of itself waning at OCZ? It used to be a core fundamental... but now you are stopping the sale of products based on that fundamental - and we all know what happens to companies who forget the fundamentals.

Don't let the economic slowdown ruin your company Tony. It's a slippery slope blaming a slowdown of IC sales on enthusiasts who can choose competitors when they know your IC types, rather than just admitting that sales will be down and that it is your job to improve your marketing, support, and brand awareness.

The fact is this, sales slow down when chip type and die leak out..and in this market that matters a great deal.

be disappointed with me...buy the ram and respect the warranty we offer.

[YMAA]

Doesn't make much sense to insult the company bringing a high-performance product to an almost-dead platform. If the company doesn't want to release the type of IC used, that's their choice. Not like DDR2 is that expensive anymore, the savings won't be that great if you find generic sticks with generic ICs. I'll take the warranty over saving a few bucks any day of the week - hence my Mushkin memory. And if OCZ's RAM warranty is anything close to Mushkin's (no offense to anyone else, but their customer service is the absolute best of any product I've ever owned - and not just computer parts), the extra money is worth it.

Besides, sometimes enthusiasts and DIYers forget that their market share is infinitesimally smaller than that of the OEM market. A lot of companies could lose the DIY market entirely and not even shed a tear...that being said, I don't know if OCZ caters to OEMs as well, so my logic may be flawed in this case.