OCZ 8500 Low-Voltage Blade

[Mescalamba]

Because others get to know what IC's you use, so they can compete, and we get lower prices on better mems? Don't see how that makes us our own enemies.

Well, philosophy of those manufacturers is quite simple. You need to keep customers in dark area, without knowing anything, except speed and CL. Plus is good to make things non-OCable, so they MUST buy faster ones.

Its same as any goverment, give us your money and don't ask any questions. Cause, WE! want to profit, got it? So STFU and buy those hyper-expensive rams.

Ofc. its all by economical rules etc. but it kinda lacks any enthusiasm and ethics. And I wonder, where world of IT would be without entusiasts..

But, go on OCZ, kill yourself, we have lots of other manufacturers. You are not needed, you need to make yourself to "be needed". Which is part that you don't get Im afraid.

//Sorry for being little more off-topic. Those rams are surely great and if I had DDR2 setup, I would probably buy them. And cause I don't, I'll at least recommand them to ppl who need good DDR2..

[zsamz_]

Because others get to know what IC's you use, so they can compete, and we get lower prices on better mems? Don't see how that makes us our own enemies.

its all about the $$
after 20+ sets i still lookin to buy

[SpuTnicK]

Ok with the chips, let's see real performance: max 24/7 freaquency with timings(CL3, CL4, CL5) and voltage...

[Don_Dan]

nice looking kit. what ICs do they use?

Sorry, I don't know what chips they use, and I won't try to rip off the heatspreader and risk killing my sticks.

Nice kit u have there m8,could u show us what this kit can do with tight subtiimings?

Thanks mate! Wait for more tests, I should have finished CL4 testing tomorrow evening, but I can already say that these sticks aren't built for tight subtimings.

Looking forward to results! Still looking for that stock Newegg has shipped to show up on the site

Stay tuned, results look very promising!

yes it does. If the sticks, by any chance, are micron based, then the sticks wil be a no-go for me. Other guys may have othere reasons for asking for the ICs. So what ICs do the sticks use?

Why 1.93V is the limit? Will they degrade while using higher voltage or just no OC gain? What's the story with the wrong SPD?

DON_DAN - is standard retail kit purchased by you or perhaps you got it from an OCZ representative for testing?

The limit on voltage is set because Tony mentioned it in the other thread, for now I decided to test them up to 1.90V, as that's already enought work. More voltage will only create more heat, remember those aren't D9GMH sticks. This time it's about finding the sweet spot for voltage!

The kit was bought in a regular hardware shop and it's a normal retail sample!

are those the platinum's?picture shows blades but it says platinum.im kind of confused.i want the blades.

Where does it say Platinum?
Look at the part number in the pic of the SPD I posted. This is the Blade series, though it doesn't matter much anyway!

The part number is for the blades so I guessing there the blades. I am wanting a set of the 9600s if the price is right.

http://www.ocztechnology.com/aboutocz/press/2009/339

Correct!

my gut tells me its ddr3

That's what I was thinking at first too!

You should definitely get yourself a kit of this stuff zsamz_, it's a lot of fun to play with them.

Because others get to know what IC's you use, so they can compete, and we get lower prices on better mems? Don't see how that makes us our own enemies.

Do you remember what happened last time when a "special" 4GB-kit was released by another RAM-manufacturer? Those sticks were already expensive in the beginning, but when people found out which chips they used they became even more overpriced because no company could fill up its stock.
For now please stop discussing what ICs they have, Tony won't tell it and I won't try to find it out the hard way. We will know it sooner or later anyway!
( Please don't get me wrong though, I'm also very very interested in what ICs they use... )

Ok with the chips, let's see real performance: max 24/7 freaquency with timings(CL3, CL4, CL5) and voltage...

Thanks for stopping the discussion.
Did you actually read what I posted up to know? I will skip CL3 testing, and replace it with CL6 tests.
I will post more results tomorrow, I should have finished my initial CL4 tests by then, but please understand that thorough testing takes some time.

[-n7-]

1.65v DDR2-1066 tCL 5

I am desperate to see max tCL 5 & 6 results @ ~ 1.8v.

This is amazing stuff.

[18 is # 1]

Where does it say Platinum?
Look at the part number in the pic of the SPD I posted. This is the Blade series, though it doesn't matter much anyway!

I think he was referring to the Amazon.com page I purchased mine from: http://www.amazon.com/OCZ2B1066LV4GK.../ref=de_a_smtd

[Tony]

I will tell you all 8 week from today if it hasn't leaked already...

[radaja]

Sorry, I don't know what chips they use, and I won't try to rip off the heatspreader and risk killing my sticks.



Thanks mate! Wait for more tests, I should have finished CL4 testing tomorrow evening, but I can already say that these sticks aren't built for tight subtimings.



Stay tuned, results look very promising!



The limit on voltage is set because Tony mentioned it in the other thread, for now I decided to test them up to 1.90V, as that's already enought work. More voltage will only create more heat, remember those aren't D9GMH sticks. This time it's about finding the sweet spot for voltage!

The kit was bought in a regular hardware shop and it's a normal retail sample!



Where does it say Platinum?
Look at the part number in the pic of the SPD I posted. This is the Blade series, though it doesn't matter much anyway!



Correct!



That's what I was thinking at first too!

You should definitely get yourself a kit of this stuff zsamz_, it's a lot of fun to play with them.



Do you remember what happened last time when a "special" 4GB-kit was released by another RAM-manufacturer? Those sticks were already expensive in the beginning, but when people found out which chips they used they became even more overpriced because no company could fill up its stock.
For now please stop discussing what ICs they have, Tony won't tell it and I won't try to find it out the hard way. We will know it sooner or later anyway!
( Please don't get me wrong though, I'm also very very interested in what ICs they use... )



Thanks for stopping the discussion.
Did you actually read what I posted up to know? I will skip CL3 testing, and replace it with CL6 tests.
I will post more results tomorrow, I should have finished my initial CL4 tests by then, but please understand that thorough testing takes some time.

not your pic but the one that 18 is # 1 posted from amazon
OCZ2B1066LV4GK PC2-8500 Platinum Low Voltage Dual Channel Kits
but pic shows blades.

[Hoss331]

I will tell you all 8 week from today if it hasn't leaked already...

Tony can you tell me the planned pricing on the 9600 blades?

[dro]

damnnn

i hope it'l be cheap in my country~

[SpuTnicK]

Don_Dan
How fat and high are the rads? Is it possible to insert 2 sticks in the nearby slots?

[punx223]

guys i dont see how tony is the bad guy here... they make some great chips.... and you have seen what they do, now thanks to the OP you know its good stuff, and since you know its good, what does it matter what IC it is, even if it is samsungs its still good... i dont care is theyre powerchips.... if they work they work

[Tony]

I have seen this so many times its untrue, we spill the beans on the IC's and you all go off looking for generic modules with the same IC's that clock well...I know you guys like cheap but we need payback for finding the IC's, binning them, branding them and offering awesome support on them.

I have to be paid a salary, i don't do this for free, and the sales of modules and SSD's are what I live off, hence I will NOT tell you, just go buy and enjoy the modules...if you need support come over to the OCZforum and we will look after you.

Its not just the modules you are buying into...its a whole lot more than that.

[18 is # 1]

Its not just the modules you are buying into...its a whole lot more than that.

+1
You guys have great support!

[LiquidReactor]

Its not just the modules you are buying into...its a whole lot more than that.

Understandable, and I have no problem supporting you guys by buying expensive ddr2 gear.

So are the pc2 9200 / 9600 LV blades going to be priced like G.Skill PI PC2 9600 sticks?

More importantly can they reach DDR2 1300 speeds?

[BeepBeep2]

I'm debating so badly between the Low-Voltage Blades or the 1.8v 8800 G*Skill kit.
Then again, the 2.1v blades are already on newegg for $66 and the only review has gotten 5-4-4-13 @ 1066 2.1v without trying.

If Tony is still here, would you guys still RMA this if it was running say, 1085-1100 ish?

[tool_462]

Then again, the 2.1v blades are already on newegg for $66 and the only review has gotten 5-4-4-13 @ 1066 2.1v without trying.

Doesn't 5-4-4-13 @ 1066 with 1.5-1.6v sound better?

[BeepBeep2]

Doesn't 5-4-4-13 @ 1066 with 1.5-1.6v sound better?

Yes, but I'm on a budget.
If the low-voltage version can stay under $75...
I just need to get my hands on a good 2x2GB kit that will do something close to 5-4-4-12 @ 1066. My current 2x1GB's will do 5-4-4-12 @ 1066.

[RyderOCZ]

I'm debating so badly between the Low-Voltage Blades or the 1.8v 8800 G*Skill kit.
Then again, the 2.1v blades are already on newegg for $66 and the only review has gotten 5-4-4-13 @ 1066 2.1v without trying.

If Tony is still here, would you guys still RMA this if it was running say, 1085-1100 ish?

Overclocking any of OCZ's products does not effect the warranty at all. Stay within the voltage limits, don't remove the HS, those are our only criteria.

[mach82]

The sticks are rated DDR2 1066@1.8 and 1.85V EVP. My Asus X48 Formula overvolts quite a lot - about 1.89V when i set 1.8V in BIOS. Will I instantly lose my warranty when i use the sticks with my asus mobo? This is a serious question - I won't be able to run the sticks within the voltage of 1.8-1.85V.

[Don_Dan]

not your pic but the one that 18 is # 1 posted from amazon
OCZ2B1066LV4GK PC2-8500 Platinum Low Voltage Dual Channel Kits
but pic shows blades.

I see.

Don_Dan
How fat and high are the rads? Is it possible to insert 2 sticks in the nearby slots?

Should be possible in my opinion, I will make sure for you though.

More importantly can they reach DDR2 1300 speeds?

I will try what I can do!


Sorry guys, at the moment I can't show more results, as I corrupted my OS an hour ago when pushing 500MHz 4-4-4-12 on 1.84V.... Maybe I was a bit over-optimistic and should have made sure with 1.86V. Settings were stable to some extent, but Linpack made the PC reboot and it took Windows with it.
Thursday is a public holiday, I'll install my new OS then and bench all day to show you more results.
You can't imagine how frustrated I am right now...

[BeepBeep2]

Overclocking any of OCZ's products does not effect the warranty at all. Stay within the voltage limits, don't remove the HS, those are our only criteria.

You guys have just sold me. When newegg gets a shipment of the platinum's I'll be buying them.

Sorry guys, at the moment I can't show more results, as I corrupted my OS an hour ago when pushing 500MHz 4-4-4-12 on 1.84V.... Maybe I was a bit over-optimistic and should have made sure with 1.86V. Settings were stable to some extent, but Linpack made the PC reboot and it took Windows with it.
Thursday is a public holiday, I'll install my new OS then and bench all day to show you more results.
You can't imagine how frustrated I am right now...

If you have an install disk sometimes a repair is all that's needed. The only corrupt files will be what was stored in the memory/page file at the time. If you do an install repair from the disc it should fix it. I've done that about 4 times.

[Don_Dan]

If you have an install disk sometimes a repair is all that's needed. The only corrupt files will be what was stored in the memory/page file at the time. If you do an install repair from the disc it should fix it. I've done that about 4 times.

Yes, it's showing the dreaded "do you want to repair Windows" screen. I'll try it, but up to now it never worked for me...

[RyderOCZ]

The sticks are rated DDR2 1066@1.8 and 1.85V EVP. My Asus X48 Formula overvolts quite a lot - about 1.89V when i set 1.8V in BIOS. Will I instantly lose my warranty when i use the sticks with my asus mobo? This is a serious question - I won't be able to run the sticks within the voltage of 1.8-1.85V.

Have you measured the overvolt using a DMM, you know it is actually that high? No setting in the bios below 1.8V, I take it.

No, you won't void your warranty.

[breakfromyou]

I'm assuming these have the same IC's as the Platinum Low Voltage series, just not binned as well as the 1150 and the 1200 models...?