Retard need help ocing BloodRage/I920 please!

[INFRNL]

I have the bloodrage with I920 cooled by TRUE 1366. I started by trying to figure out max bclock.

No matter what I do I cannot get 180 or higher. I am pretty sure that its not my chip (3837B317)supposed to be a really good batch. I think I am just an idiot. I used to be able to oc the AMD processors pretty well, but this does not seem familiar to me as people say its about the same.

any help would be greatly appreciated.

BloodRage rev.1.0 P06
920: 3837B317 TRUE 1366RT
ATI: 4850 (stock)
WD6401AALS Vista Ultimate64
Ultra xPro 800w

let me know what other info you may need from me. Thanks in advance

[BenchZowner]

You can start by showing us your BIOS settings.

[maxxx]

Maybe filling up the values can help. Sorry folks, I don't know how to make a template here. I do have this in Excel though.

Quantum BIOS (P06)

CPU Features
PPM :
EIST :
CxE :
Execute Disable Bit :
Virtualization :
Hyper Threading :
Active Processor Cores :
Memory Settings
Memory Controller Settings
IMC Configuration :
Channel Congifuration :
Channel Interleaving :
Rank Interleaving :
Memory Timings
Extreme Memory Profile XMP :
Memory Profile Select :
DRAM Timing Control :
tCL (CAS Latency) :
tRCG (RAS to CAS Delay) :
tRP (RAS Precharge) :
tRAS (Precharge Delay) :
CR (Command Rate) :
tRFC (Refresh Cycle Time) :
tWR (Write Recovery Time) :
tWTR (Write to Read Delay) :
tRRD (RAS to RAS Delay) :
tRTP (Read to Precharge) :
All Voltage Settings
CPU Voltages
CPU Core Voltage :
CPU Target Core Voltage :
CPU Vdroop Compensation :
CPU VTT (UnCore) Voltage :
1.8 PPL Voltage Setting :
CPU Clock Amplitude Ctrl :
Memory Voltages
DRAM Voltage :
DIMM1 Vref CA (Addresses) :
DIMM1 Vref DQ (Data) :
DIMM2 Vref CA (Addresses) :
DIMM2 Vref DQ (Data) :
DIMM3 Vref CA (Addresses) :
DIMM3 Vref DQ (Data) :
Chipset Voltages
X58 IOH Core Voltage :
X58 IOH VCCA 1.1V :
X58 IOH VCCA 1.5V :
ICH10 SB Voltage :
OC Gear : Skipping this part
CPU Turbo :
System Turbo :
Clock Speed Control Center
CPU Bclock (FSB) :
QPI Link Fast Mode :
QPI Multiplier :
QPI Target Speed :
CPU Core Multiplier :
CPU Core Target Speed :
CPU Uncore Multiplier :
CPU Uncore Target Speed :
Memory Bus Multiplier :
Memory Bus Target Speed :
CPU Clock Skew :
IOH Clock Skew :

[Hoyas]

Hi maxx, hoyas here from TPC. can you send me a sample bios settings for 4ghz. thanks!

[maxxx]

Hiya Hoyas, nice to see you here. What other parts do you have? Mems, processor (batch)? I'll send you what I have and I am using a 940 at the moment. My 920 needs an enormous amount of vcore to become stable at 4Ghz.

4Ghz may vary so you may have to try playing around with the settings. Its better to start at default then work your way up (at least its how I do it). Set mems to default and the CPU multi to 20x then increase the CPU Bclock. At the same time, you may need to watch the CPU Vcore and VTT voltage as you may need to increase them. Just watch your temps as you go along.

You may also want to look through here in Saaya's post to see how to find the max cpu clock. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...90&postcount=1

[ProStock]

How about having a sticky thread "Foxconn BloodRage Shared BIOS Settings"
that will be helpfull if we can share bios setting using the same format Maxxx just post

thx

[maxxx]

How about having a sticky thread "Foxconn BloodRage Shared BIOS Settings"
that will be helpfull if we can share bios setting using the same format Maxxx just post

thx

+1

[INFRNL]

How about having a sticky thread "Foxconn BloodRage Shared BIOS Settings"
that will be helpfull if we can share bios setting using the same format Maxxx just post

thx

I second this: +2

I will get as much data as I can in a bit. Basically everyything is at default settings and I went through the steps to find max bclock.

EDIT: Got some infos for you guys. some of the sttings may be a little high; I figured I would start a little high and back off what I need to.

Quantum BIOS (P06)

CPU Features
PPM : Enabled
EIST : Enabled
CxE : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
Virtualization : Disabled
Hyper Threading : Enabled
Active Processor Cores : All
Memory Settings
Memory Controller Settings
IMC Configuration :Enabled
Channel Congifuration :Independent
Channel Interleaving :6way
Rank Interleaving :4way
Memory Timings
Extreme Memory Profile XMP :virtual xmp: Disabled
Memory Profile Select :N/A
DRAM Timing Control :Manual
tCL (CAS Latency) :9
tRCG (RAS to CAS Delay) :9
tRP (RAS Precharge) :9
tRAS (Precharge Delay) :28
CR (Command Rate) :2T
tRFC (Refresh Cycle Time) :Auto
tWR (Write Recovery Time) :Auto
tWTR (Write to Read Delay) :Auto
tRRD (RAS to RAS Delay) :Auto
tRTP (Read to Precharge) :Auto
All Voltage Settings
CPU Voltages
CPU Core Voltage :+140mv (cpu-z says 1.47...need to lower
CPU Target Core Voltage :
CPU Vdroop Compensation :Enabled
CPU VTT (UnCore) Voltage :Default
1.8 PPL Voltage Setting :1.8
CPU Clock Amplitude Ctrl :
Memory Voltages
DRAM Voltage :1.6
DIMM1 Vref CA (Addresses) :0.5
DIMM1 Vref DQ (Data) :0.5
DIMM2 Vref CA (Addresses) :0.5
DIMM2 Vref DQ (Data) :0.5
DIMM3 Vref CA (Addresses) :0.5
DIMM3 Vref DQ (Data) :0.5
Chipset Voltages
X58 IOH Core Voltage :1.18
X58 IOH VCCA 1.1V :1.125
X58 IOH VCCA 1.5V :1.530
ICH10 SB Voltage :1.530
OC Gear : Skipping this part
CPU Turbo : Always On
System Turbo : Enabled
Clock Speed Control Center
CPU Bclock (FSB) : 179
QPI Link Fast Mode : Enabled
QPI Multiplier :18
QPI Target Speed : 3227
CPU Core Multiplier :16
CPU Core Target Speed :2869
CPU Uncore Multiplier :16
CPU Uncore Target Speed :2871
Memory Bus Multiplier :6
Memory Bus Target Speed :1077
CPU Clock Skew :0ps
IOH Clock Skew :0ps
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let me know what you think and if you need more info.
I can tell you that if I try to go to 180 or higher the mobo will stop on C1 and beep like crazy. will lover vcore to approx 1.4v which should be enough to get me higher.

[Utnorris]

Right off the back I would suggest setting your ram to auto, eliminate that as being an issue. Second, your CPU VTT (UnCore) Voltage needs to be close to what yout vcore is, which means if vcore is at 1.41v then try to get your uncore near that. I run my vcore at 1.32v-1.36v and my uncore is at 1.32v (+220mv I believe). Next you will need to adjust these:
X58 IOH Core Voltage :1.3v
X58 IOH VCCA 1.1V :1.3v
X58 IOH VCCA 1.5V :1.65v

I am at 200x19 with HT and turbo on. I would also recommend using a odd multiplier like 17, 19, etc... These are just suggested areas, voltages will vary from setup to setup, so keep that in mind.

Hope that helps.

[INFRNL]

thanks I will give it a shot. as for ram. right now with current settings; if I set to auto will not boot. I set those timings as they should be plenty loose.
However I was looking at current prices on ram and was thinking that maybe my ram doesnt work well with this mobo. I am running the tri-ch 1600 kit from supertalent. I think I will try some stuff as you mentioned and try to get either corsair or ocz ram to try and see if that helps any too. I will check compatability list before buying.

[INFRNL]

tried those settings UT; along with others...No Dice. cannot get past 179. I got 180 to try and start but ended up w/a bsod. also with ram set to auto I cant even get it to boot at 150. I am going to order some other ram tonight; either ocz or corsair; something cheap. will see if that does something. I dont know what else it could be. I do not have another mobo or cpu to try. I think I am just losing my mind and possibly overlooking something simple. I hope that I dont have a defective board. I cant imagine it being the cpu, its on the hot list, but ya never know.

If I cant figure it out; I will just wait a few weeks till I can get some other parts in to troubleshoot with.

[maxxx]

@INFRNL: Did you try to increase your VTT? Somewhere around 0.5v less than the Vcore. Sometimes, it may not be your CPU limiting it but the RAM. Increase the vDimm to 1.65v, see if it helps.

[INFRNL]

@INFRNL: Did you try to increase your VTT? Somewhere around 0.5v less than the Vcore. Sometimes, it may not be your CPU limiting it but the RAM. Increase the vDimm to 1.65v, see if it helps.

I will try. my ram is actually rated @1.5v, but I will try changing it . I also even tried just 1 stick last night with no changes in results. I will be ordering some ram and getting it for the weekend; once I decide what ram to get,lol. I am thinking either the new corsair ram or ocz xmp series. I dont think I need to spend any more than $100 on ram (6gb), but i could be wrong, lol.

[maxxx]

@INFRNL: just run some fan(s) on top of the RAM temporarily to cool them down when you increase the vDimm. I've ran my G.Skills PI Black up to 1.70v without any cooling and they don't get hot.

I dont think I need to spend any more than $100 on ram (6gb), but i could be wrong, lol.

I thought the same, and boy, was I wrong....

[INFRNL]

@INFRNL: just run some fan(s) on top of the RAM temporarily to cool them down when you increase the vDimm. I've ran my G.Skills PI Black up to 1.70v without any cooling and they don't get hot.

I thought the same, and boy, was I wrong....

I bumped up the voltage to 1.67 in bios. made it into windows for a few seconds befre it crashed. Tried adjusting some of the other settings as well with no results. I just dont get it. on some of the v settings even if I bumped it up 1 notch made it worse.

as for ram; funny thing is your ram is now $100 give or take (g-Skill)
What would you recommend I get for ram? I need 3x2gb kit. Im thinking either Corsair or OCZ.

[maxxx]

What would you recommend I get for ram? I need 3x2gb kit. Im thinking either Corsair or OCZ.

You can prolly start here http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...92&postcount=1
I am using those Corsair Dominator GT's (3x1GB kit) at the moment. Just some quirk with SPD and XMP, but manually, they work fine. Also in the waiting list for the 6GB GT's as well and some 6GB ADATA's, if they ever get available again, that is (thats for the Classified though, ).

A friend also tried some Kingston HyperX and worked great. Maybe you'd want to check them out.

[INFRNL]

You can prolly start here http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...92&postcount=1
I am using those Corsair Dominator GT's (3x1GB kit) at the moment. Just some quirk with SPD and XMP, but manually, they work fine. Also in the waiting list for the 6GB GT's as well and some 6GB ADATA's, if they ever get available again, that is (thats for the Classified though, ).

A friend also tried some Kingston HyperX and worked great. Maybe you'd want to check them out.

I would love to get a set of Dominator GT's, but thats way too much money for me; although its a lot cheaper than I anticipated. The dominators are dropping in price (165) but I think better ram is available for cheaper. Im not sure. I just want the best bang for my buck I guess.

I would love to just be able to figure out what is going on with my systems, going to be trial and error I guess. Thanks for your input.

[Utnorris]

As promised:

Quantum BIOS (P06)

CPU Features
PPM : Enabled
EIST : Enabled
CxE : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Virtualization : Disabled
Hyper Threading : Enabled
Active Processor Cores : All
Memory Settings
Memory Controller Settings
IMC Configuration : Enabled
Channel Congifuration : Independent
Channel Interleaving : 6 way
Rank Interleaving : 4 way
Memory Timings
Extreme Memory Profile XMP : Disabled
Memory Profile Select : Auto
DRAM Timing Control : By SPD
tCL (CAS Latency) :
tRCG (RAS to CAS Delay) :
tRP (RAS Precharge) :
tRAS (Precharge Delay) :
CR (Command Rate) :
tRFC (Refresh Cycle Time) :
tWR (Write Recovery Time) :
tWTR (Write to Read Delay) :
tRRD (RAS to RAS Delay) :
tRTP (Read to Precharge) :
All Voltage Settings
CPU Voltages
CPU Core Voltage : +110mv
CPU Target Core Voltage : 1.28500 Actual is 1.36v
CPU Vdroop Compensation : Enabled
CPU VTT (UnCore) Voltage : +180mv Actual is 1.31v
1.8 PPL Voltage Setting : 1.8v
CPU Clock Amplitude Ctrl : 0.800v
Memory Voltages
DRAM Voltage : 1.65v Actual is 1.66v
DIMM1 Vref CA (Addresses) : .500
DIMM1 Vref DQ (Data) : .496
DIMM2 Vref CA (Addresses) : .500
DIMM2 Vref DQ (Data) : .500
DIMM3 Vref CA (Addresses) : .500
DIMM3 Vref DQ (Data) : .500
Chipset Voltages
X58 IOH Core Voltage : 1.30v
X58 IOH VCCA 1.1V : 1.307v
X58 IOH VCCA 1.5V : 1.506v
ICH10 SB Voltage : 1.506v
OC Gear : Skipping this part
CPU Turbo : Enabled
System Turbo : Enabled
Clock Speed Control Center
CPU Bclock (FSB) : 200
QPI Link Fast Mode : Enabled
QPI Multiplier : x18
QPI Target Speed : 3605Mhz
CPU Core Multiplier : x19
CPU Core Target Speed : 3806Mhz
CPU Uncore Multiplier : x16
CPU Uncore Target Speed : 3208Mhz
Memory Bus Multiplier : x8
Memory Bus Target Speed : 1604Mhz
CPU Clock Skew : 0ps
IOH Clock Skew : 0ps
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[maxxx]

CPU Clock Amplitude Ctrl : 0.800v

Newbie questions guys, what does the above do? I haven't touch this setting. Always at default.

[INFRNL]

^^^ @ UT; I tried you settings @ 180 and didnt help.

Being that I am totally stable with my above listed settings @179, but I cant do 180; could it have anything to do with my CPU? IMO I dont think it does. normally when you start to get to the limit you would have issues before hand; not just rock solid to nothing, right?

let me know your thoughts

[BenchZowner]

^^^ @ UT; I tried you settings @ 180 and didnt help.

Being that I am totally stable with my above listed settings @179, but I cant do 180; could it have anything to do with my CPU? IMO I dont think it does. normally when you start to get to the limit you would have issues before hand; not just rock solid to nothing, right?

let me know your thoughts

Actually I have a CPU that is fully stable at 220MHz BCLK.
221MHz BCLK won't even POST.
And on the same board I've reached 227MHz BCLK stable on air, and 235MHz BCLK on extreme cooling ( Liquid nitrogen on CPU & NB ).

I have to go out now, I shall be back in 30 mins or so, and I'll PM you about the other thing