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Thread: Swiftech MCW7000-T for Corei7 announced

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    I would use this on my Xeon if they made the brackets for it. Is swiftech actually going to follow through?
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    there is one out for lga775 already its going to be kinda hard for you to find it though most places are out of stock... the only difference is that the 775 version has a smaller tec but you can open it and install w/e tec you want in it

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    So would getting an SE-1000-24 Meanwell be a safe bet for the MCW7000 reguardless of what TEC is actually used? Also, even with overtemp settings in bios, whats the chances of the CPU frying itself before it shuts down if the TEC fails? Especially considering this will be on an overclocked 975 $1100 CPU

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herc130 View Post
    So would getting an SE-1000-24 Meanwell be a safe bet for the MCW7000 reguardless of what TEC is actually used?
    Possibly It depends...wouldn't it be better just to wait and see what comes out ?
    It was supposed to come out in 6 weeks but who knows looks like it might be 6 months...at the speed the electronics industry evolves I would sit on it and wait.

    Quote Originally Posted by Herc130 View Post
    Also, even with overtemp settings in bios, whats the chances of the CPU frying itself before it shuts down if the TEC fails? Especially considering this will be on an overclocked 975 $1100 CPU
    If the overtemp settings in bios wont save it why would any thing else ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by xTKxhom3r View Post
    there is one out for lga775 already its going to be kinda hard for you to find it though most places are out of stock... the only difference is that the 775 version has a smaller tec but you can open it and install w/e tec you want in it
    I think you are confusing the issue here the thread is for MCW7000. Which in my estimation will take a 62mm TEC. Might be wrong but I don't think so.

    Your talking about the previous model with a 50mm/40mm TEC...smaller in physical size as well as wattage rating. So there are limitations on the TEC's you can put in it.

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    Come on Gabe, give up an update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zipdogso View Post

    If the overtemp settings in bios wont save it why would any thing else ???
    Because a regular water loop or heatsink still offers some kinda cooling capacity even if fans and pumps break whereas a non functioning TEC does not and in fact becomes an insulator or worse. I would bet a heavily overclocked i7 will continue to heat up beyond whatever temps you set for it to shut down at once the TEC goes and then after the computer stops adding more heat, it will now have to cool back down with nothing to move the heat other then the IHS and a ceramic sheet hindering it cooling down.

    No doubt people have raised this issue before, I'll go search while waiting for some enlightenment here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herc130 View Post
    Because a regular water loop or heatsink still offers some kinda cooling capacity even if fans and pumps break whereas a non functioning TEC does not and in fact becomes an insulator or worse. I would bet a heavily overclocked i7 will continue to heat up beyond whatever temps you set for it to shut down at once the TEC goes and then after the computer stops adding more heat, it will now have to cool back down with nothing to move the heat other then the IHS and a ceramic sheet hindering it cooling down.

    No doubt people have raised this issue before, I'll go search while waiting for some enlightenment here.
    Whoa Nelly!! If we are talking about a TEC cooled device supposed to run at say 30C, you can set the shutdown temperature to 50C and never trigger unless the device fails. The TEC, which has significant mass, will be at 50C at shutdown too. The latent heat in a few grams of silicon will not win that fight - I'd be surprised if the core hit 60C in that scenario. And that's not even warm for a 975.

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    i wonder how much farther i could OC a i7 920 with a TEC versus a heatkiller 3.0 water block

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    How bout a TEC under a HK 3.0?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wez3570 View Post
    How bout a TEC under a HK 3.0?
    sure crack your tec from the bow.

    Jimbo, the D0's are split into 2 sections... ones that do better on air, and leaky ones that do better on sub ambient. :P

    Ive seen some 975's which do 5ghz in there sleep when under sub 0.

    I have one whose other near identical bin sisters are hitting 5ghz,
    but only difference is they have phase, and im just on water. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaeKuh View Post
    sure crack your tec from the bow

    Not nessecarily.

    Base of HK could be lapped and sat on top of custom 'TEC sandwiched' copper plates (independently bolted together to required torque), then bolted through the motherboard to a back plate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wez3570 View Post
    Not nessecarily.

    Base of HK could be lapped and sat on top of custom 'TEC sandwiched' copper plates (independently bolted together to required torque), then bolted through the motherboard to a back plate.

    Backplate-motherboard-CPU-coldplate-TEC-hotplate-HK 3.0
    youll forever destroy that hk block. also there werent really intended to cool a 60mm tec.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaeKuh View Post
    youll forever destroy that hk block. also there werent really intended to cool a 60mm tec.
    Point taken, it's not something I was considering, was just thinking aloud I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChinStrap View Post
    417W.

    i'm in love.
    LOL......it is highly unlikely you will get 417w out of it.

    Gabe hasn't said what figures he was quoting so it if it was 50ºC figures it will be pie in the sky to start with then of course it is max at max current and anyone with any sense won't do that plus there is the ever present thermal exchange efficiencies....dream on at 417w if you want BUT just remember it's a dream !

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaeKuh View Post
    youll forever destroy that hk block. also there werent really intended to cool a 60mm tec.
    Why would the heat destroy copper?
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    I love the sub-ambient setups I've seen. Haven't had the balls to step into it yet, but I like seeing companies offering more and more "kits" you can buy so those of us not experienced in sub-ambient cooling can have something easier to get into. Very cool Gabe.
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    i sent gabe a PM regarding the TEC, here's his response.

    Quote Originally Posted by gabe
    there was a hicup with the TEC vendor who never sent me the right prototype module. been busy meantime. I hope it to be there within a week or two, and I can resume testing.
    its still coming, just not as quickly
    Last edited by Chruschef; 06-21-2009 at 03:49 PM.
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    I'm going to use two OCZ HydroFlow HF-MK1 to chill out 437w peltier, pics comming soon

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    You better have a plan to deal with the stepped base. As that block won't otherwise fit a 62mm TEC (you'll need a cold plate anyways) since the block measures 5.5cm (55mm) you'll need to use a cold plate hot plate sandwich with a good amount of pressure....say 150-300PSI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flak-spammer View Post
    You better have a plan to deal with the stepped base. As that block won't otherwise fit a 62mm TEC (you'll need a cold plate anyways) since the block measures 5.5cm (55mm) you'll need to use a cold plate hot plate sandwich with a good amount of pressure....say 150-300PSI.
    That's why i use two OCZ block to cool down the hotplate, man

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    Quote Originally Posted by yup View Post
    That's why i use two OCZ block to cool down the hotplate, man
    no bueno. the OCZ block is stepped, meaning not flat, it won't cool the entire TEC properly.

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    You need something like this .. This is what i used to put a 62mm TEC under a standard water block


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