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    810 has less cache, and AMD said 6mb was the minimum for adequate performance (according to Anandtech). The whole reason the Phenom 2MB chips underperformed was because it was cache starved...so they cut it from 6 to 4 and call it an 810? Not so sure if that's a good buy.

    I don't care if a platform is "dead". This person most likely won't be doing any upgrading until the next platform is out anyway. What matters is what the best buy is right now.

    Appreciate the input. So far, more votes are going toward the 710/720 over the Intels, even if the Intels will be seeing upwards of 4Ghz and will outperform clock per clock. The variable for success will be whether or not the 3rd core will be useful.

    Let's say you don't use any apps that will utilize that core, but you do multi-task a lot. Does Windows delegate well enough to give a 3/4 core chip a proper workout so you really get the benefit over a 1/2 core chip?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulburner View Post
    810 has less cache, and AMD said 6mb was the minimum for adequate performance (according to Anandtech). The whole reason the Phenom 2MB chips underperformed was because it was cache starved...so they cut it from 6 to 4 and call it an 810? Not so sure if that's a good buy.

    I don't care if a platform is "dead". This person most likely won't be doing any upgrading until the next platform is out anyway. What matters is what the best buy is right now.

    Appreciate the input. So far, more votes are going toward the 710/720 over the Intels, even if the Intels will be seeing upwards of 4Ghz and will outperform clock per clock. The variable for success will be whether or not the 3rd core will be useful.

    Let's say you don't use any apps that will utilize that core, but you do multi-task a lot. Does Windows delegate well enough to give a 3/4 core chip a proper workout so you really get the benefit over a 1/2 core chip?

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...m,2148-12.html
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    the Phenom II X4 810--the 2.6 GHz processor with a stripped-down 4 MB L3 cache--was able to outperform our simulated Phenom II X4 910 with its full 6 MB cache.
    the chip has a better Nb:core, speed ratio.
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    Thought you might be interested in that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukonTrooper View Post
    Thought you might be interested in that.
    Even tho my e7300 also does 4Ghz 1.42v on air w/ a g31 mobo and undervolted stock cooler Id still preffer 3 PII cores runing @ 3.6Ghz or so...

    Many games already makes use of > 2 cores, among many other apps.... Wont even mention proffessional content production software

    I got the cheapo e7300 with an quad core upgrade in mind. Only two cores wont cut it in the near future (sometimes even now). Parallelization cant be stoped and its already taking over.

    With that said, his price is really good
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulburner View Post
    The variable for success will be whether or not the 3rd core will be useful.
    Exactly

    So....have u decided ?

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    Not yet. Doing a theoretical build for someone, also getting caught up with hardware. I got behind and wanted to update my knowledge (I do this often, it's impossible to keep up with all facets of technology at once every day).

    If Windows can truly utilize more cores for smoother multi-tasking, it's not a question of what programs use the cores, its Windows itself, IMO. In this case 4>3>2>1 even if you have 0 (zero) programs that use multi-core processors. I don't have much evidence of that at this point, other than a couple of people saying "yeah it does".
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    I dont think XP or Vista would run smoother with moretham 2 cores....The OS's bottleneck is the storage subsystem imo.

    Maybe things have changed with Windows 7 ? I dont know, some beta testers could enlighten us.
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    I don't know about you but this would make my decision real easy.
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    Assuming it's a good board, that's a good deal.
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    I would have gone AMD anyway
    But that deal is very good, the board is a decent baord, so you are getting a real bargain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulburner View Post
    Assuming it's a good board, that's a good deal.
    It is a good board.
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    yep, very nice deal, good board, awesome price

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